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This thread is a reflection of C&C's Spelling and Grammar Standards article located here. Because this article is not easily accessible on-site, people make many errors that could've been easily prevented. For this reason, I am opening this thread so that users can both discuss the standards and refer to them easily within our forums. Spelling and Grammar StandardsSpelling
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Great, it's finally somewhere where people can read it!
Thanks Rising_Dusk, good work! |
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A few things I'd like to add.
Otherwise, nice sticky, I'll come up with more as I come across common errors. |
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UNH UNH UNH UNH
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I understand that this sticky is mainly for PokeGrammar but can people please use 'its' and 'it's' correctly please? I swear it's the most common grammar error that I have to correct.
its = possessive eg. Snorlax can restore some health using its Leftovers. it's = contraction for 'it is' eg. It's a damn shame that Snorlax doesn't get Slack Off. For more on this basic rule of grammar, watch this video. |
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Those are some good ideas, Zy, but they can be generalized and handled in one fell swoop. I'll update now.
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One more thing I think should be added:
The terms "hail" and "sandstorm" are not capitalized, unless it is the name of a set. Example: Empoleon is immune to sandstorm, but not to hail. EDIT: My bad, sorry Fate. Last edited by ShinyAzelf; Mar 20th, 2011 at 8:59:47 AM. |
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UNH UNH UNH UNH
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@ShinyAzelf
There's already this rule: Quote:
Why would you think that's a mistake? That's how apostrophes are meant to be used... |
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I'm not sure why people don't do this anymore, but a while a back, people would use the term "bulky water" to refer to bulky Water-type tanks like Vaporeon and Milotic. Is this still acceptable or should we use "bulky Water-type"?
edit: @Mooo when a word ends with s, the apostrophe goes after the "s" if it's referring to position (i.e. "the muffins' leader attacked me" would be talking about multiple muffins that had a leader)
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Isn't it Ho-oH?
(Even if it's wrong, I think you should mention it's wrong.) |
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@Toma, no it's Ho-Oh.
Also, thanks for putting this up for everyone to see. Should be easier for people to write articles now, as well as, our job easier if we need to double check something.
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Can we add something about how to say set up. Even I still get confused on when and how to use set up, and setup sweeper, etc. I want it standardized.
EDIT: Also, I want the standard to state that we should use Pokemon without the accent on the e. |
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I haven't included anything because it's not a convention, it's a normal grammar rule that my grammar reference book on-hand has in it. This article isn't to replace typical grammar sense.
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Are "ADV/DPP/BW" etc. abbreviations only for when refering to the metagame, or must they be used for the generation as a whole as well? I'm noticing lots of analyses have things like "X didn't gain anything new in the fifth generation" and I'm wondering if that's acceptable since it's not refering to competitive play specifically.
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"fifth generation" is ok because it's not attempting to abbreviate anything, it's literally saying the fifth generation of Pokemon, which is perfectly acceptable. Those abbreviation rules are so people don't say things that are non-standard like D/P/P or whatever.
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Hey R_D, can we add something about not using those dastardly curly apostrophes? Unless you already have and I missed it.
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"Use the ASCII ( ' ) apostrophe, not the curly ( ’ ) apostrophe, in writing." Yep, it's there! |
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Ahh, I found it. Well, in any case I think the quotations should be added too. I've seen some analyses where they use the correct apostrophes but use the curly "" quotations.
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I'll extend the rule to the curly quotation marks just because there's no reason not to.
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I was given a book today as a gift, all about the intricacies of the English language. There's a page all on common mistakes, so I think I'd throw a few of these in for reference.
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Some Pokegrammar stuff I'd like to bring up:
- Poké Ball, Pokéwalker, PokéDex, Poké Mart, and Pokémon Center are the correct spellings; however are we going to need the accent on the "e" here? For Poke Ball and PokeDex especially, I think we should have the accent for pronounciation purposes. - Route. I think think Route should always be capitalized, because in the cartridges it is capitalized. For example, "You can find x on Route 27." - level and level-up should not be capitalized. However, Lv. to signify level should be capitalized with the period after the v. |
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I agree with you on the second two points, but the first point, I don't think its necessary. not everyone is able to (be bothered) generate the é on their computers (Alt Gr + e), and we leave it as Pokemon which is fine, so I think items will work too.
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I agree with you completely Zy, I can't make the stupid e either on my laptop (I just c/p from somewhere else to use it), but they are used so infrequently, unlike Pokemon. And like I said, for pronounciation purposes.
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I really want to avoid the spelling and grammar standards turning into a page for normal grammar issues. This is specifically for PokeGrammar and nothing else. There are literally thousands of standard grammar assistance websites on the internet, we don't need to clutter our article with the information and make it harder to find what really matters.
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