5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 103

**ΩDonut** · Mar 25th, 2011, 1:19:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ves

Could there be something about this seed that makes Golett far more likely to have Klutz regardless of how much the PID RNG is advanced?

Nope.

Flux · Mar 25th, 2011, 7:23:43 PM

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Frame 4 = 1 advancement with 1 pokemon (1 repel + 28 steps) - least ideal, your synchronizer also needs to be your catcher + possibly your 1-under Pokemon

What is the reason for bringing a 1-under?

leeward8 · Mar 25th, 2011, 7:28:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Darkblader

Am I only able to output results to csv while Time Finder is searching? It appears that after the search is done, RNG Reporter brings me to the saving screen, but once I click OK, nothing happens.

It's happened to me twice so far, and after these 10+ hour searches, the fact that I can't save the results leaves me a bit annoyed -_-

+1 on this one
would be great if the feature can be restored in the next release

JRT · Mar 25th, 2011, 7:35:26 PM

Back in 4th Gen when I would calibrate my seed through emloop, I would catch a pokemon and if I caught that same one 3 times, I knew I could hit that seed consistently. Is that not going to work with C-Gear because of the PID?

justenough215 · Mar 25th, 2011, 7:46:19 PM

The present calculator only works for the jap version?

kiddu · Mar 25th, 2011, 8:12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Flux

What is the reason for bringing a 1-under?

Just another way to check the Pokemon. It's 100% optional, though.

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

Back in 4th Gen when I would calibrate my seed through emloop, I would catch a pokemon and if I caught that same one 3 times, I knew I could hit that seed consistently. Is that not going to work with C-Gear because of the PID?

Not without checking IVs, no.

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Originally Posted by Fat justenough215

The present calculator only works for the jp version?

It also has partial (C-Gear only) compatibility with US/EU versions.

ctccromer · Mar 25th, 2011, 9:01:00 PM

So i finally realized what yall meant by "calibrate" (I had been missing by 50-60 so i set callibration from 0 to -56 in ZomgTimer) and I've gotten within 5 frames at least 4 times now (got 2 from it once!)

So now that I'm within view of it, is there anything at all that I can do to help improve that last little bit, or do I just gotta keep trying?

Btw, walking less than 128 steps apparently does NOT mess with your frames, because I'm doing a seed on frame 3 and normally I induce a battle by turning (cant use sweet scent in the desert winds) but a few times Ive walked around and gotten one of the results shown

riddlinkid · Mar 25th, 2011, 9:08:35 PM

Will the spreads I found for my white version be the same on my black as long as I use the same DS?

kiddu · Mar 25th, 2011, 9:13:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat ctccromer

So i finally realized what yall meant by "calibrate" (I had been missing by 50-60 so i set callibration from 0 to -56 in ZomgTimer) and I've gotten within 5 frames at least 4 times now (got 2 from it once!)

So now that I'm within view of it, is there anything at all that I can do to help improve that last little bit, or do I just gotta keep trying?

Adjust as necessary, and keep trying. That's all.

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Originally Posted by Fat ctccromer

Btw, walking less than 128 steps apparently does NOT mess with your frames, because I'm doing a seed on frame 3 and normally I induce a battle by turning (cant use sweet scent in the desert winds) but a few times Ive walked around and gotten one of the results shown

Then you saved when your step counter was just starting another cycle. You will not always be so lucky.

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Originally Posted by Fat riddlinkid

Will the spreads I found for my white version be the same on my black as long as I use the same DS?

Yes.

ctccromer · Mar 25th, 2011, 9:30:18 PM

So then let me get this straight. For the step counter:
-128 is the golden number for frame progression
-Entering/exiting zones (caves, pokecenter, etc) doesn't restart the number or anything
-Saving saves that number and when you load the file it starts from there

All true then?

legendarymaster · Mar 25th, 2011, 10:08:40 PM

NOOOOOOO!!!! I hit my seed but Zekrom was Modest!!!
Also, if you kill the Zekrom, its Ivs change right?

Kaphotics · Mar 25th, 2011, 10:10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

My best guess is 65535. That fills the last four hex-digits of the seed, and I think above that it resets to 0.

wrong, it loops at FFFFFFFF instead of FFFF.

Not sure if it only considers the lower half in the C-Gear seed, however.

;)

Shinyshuppet1 · Mar 25th, 2011, 10:24:50 PM

I got a question about RNGing my ID/SID, when do I hit "A" on the second timer? The rest I know how to do it.
I Hope anyone helps. ^^

ctccromer · Mar 25th, 2011, 10:52:38 PM

Well, I still haven't gotten my first target seed, but I just got ONE FRAME AWAY. So close..

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Originally Posted by Fat Shinyshuppet1

I got a question about RNGing my ID/SID, when do I hit "A" on the second timer? The rest I know how to do it.
I Hope anyone helps. ^^

Set the time on the DS to 1 minute before the target time. Hit "A" (or touch Confirm) to set the time (and start the seconds at 0) at the EXACT same time you start the timer.
The FIRST time the timer expires, hit the Pokemon Black button on the DS menu
The SECOND time the timer expires, touch "yes" in-game to starting the C-Gear (when loading your file, don't have the C-Gear on. load the game, then manually turn it on. Timing hitting the power button to get to the screen where you can hit Yes doesn't matter afaik)

kiddu · Mar 25th, 2011, 10:55:34 PM

^Not what was being asked.

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Originally Posted by Fat ctccromer

So then let me get this straight. For the step counter:
-128 is the golden number for frame progression
-Entering/exiting zones (caves, pokecenter, etc) doesn't restart the number or anything
-Saving saves that number and when you load the file it starts from there

All true then?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Fat malcolmpc

I'm confused on what I need before starting this guide.

Really?

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

Prerequisites

Pokémon Black or Pokémon White
RNG Reporter 9
Knowledge of how to hit seeds in Generation 4

It doesn't get much clearer than that.

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Originally Posted by Fat Shinyshuppet1

I got a question about RNGing my ID/SID, when do I hit "A" on the second timer? The rest I know how to do it.
I Hope anyone helps. ^^

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

No asking about RNGing your ID\SID. If you want to be able to find your SID without an AR in the future, write down the time you turned on the game from the DS menu when you first created your save file.)

JRT · Mar 26th, 2011, 1:04:04 AM

Does anyone else have problems hitting delays past 10,000? For the life of me I haven't been able to be consistent with any of the 2 seeds I've tried, but that's all the Reporter keeps poping out. The first time I hit it I must have been lucky, because every other time it just jumps around. I just want to make sure it's not me before I become paranoid.

Ortega · Mar 26th, 2011, 3:56:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat IcyFlame05

Thank you Omega. I'm out of that hole and back on track.
EDIT: The RNG reporter is reporting my roamer spreads 1 frame later than it's actual position. My target spread is on frame 4 but when I caught my roamer, the desired IV spread was on frame 5, not 4. Should i look for a spread on frame 5 instead? Will i have to do any advances? I recall someone earlier having this problem.

You should look for spreads reported on frame 3, the roamer would then be generated on frame 4, you won't have to advance the frame. Here's my observations on RNGing roamers that you may find helpful:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...69#post3394469
I forgot to mention in that post that when searching for adjacents for roamers you need to move the Sp. Attack IV to the back and move the Sp. Defense and Speed IVs to the left 1 spot each.

Regarding breeding, has anyone had relatively consistent success without two perfect parents? RNGing a perfect male from the same breed group in 4th gen would be very easy, but if the mother needs to be a 5th gen Pokemon that can't be caught in the wild (Zoroark, fossils, starters, etc.) then I can see that being difficult to breed using RNG abuse.

Shinryu · Mar 26th, 2011, 6:19:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

Does anyone else have problems hitting delays past 10,000? For the life of me I haven't been able to be consistent with any of the 2 seeds I've tried, but that's all the Reporter keeps poping out. The first time I hit it I must have been lucky, because every other time it just jumps around. I just want to make sure it's not me before I become paranoid.

Not that I have tried, but why are you searching for delays so far up? That can only be eating up unnecessary time...you sure there isn't a lower delay/frame seed you can be using instead of that?

JRT · Mar 26th, 2011, 7:11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shinryu

Not that I have tried, but why are you searching for delays so far up? That can only be eating up unnecessary time...you sure there isn't a lower delay/frame seed you can be using instead of that?

Actually I was able to find one but thanks.

Ok I have a target frame of 11 so I have to advance the frame by 8. Am I able to use a super repel, walk 128 steps, then use another super repel when that wears off, then walk another 128 steps, all while having 4 Pokemon in my party?

JuiceFriend · Mar 26th, 2011, 7:29:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

I have to advance the frame by 8. Am I able to use a super repel, walk 128 steps, then use another super repel when that wears off, then walk another 128 steps, all while having 4 Pokemon in my party?

Take a max repel and walk 6 more steps after it has expired. And yes, 4 Pokemon in party is fine.
If you use super repel which lasts for 200 steps, you have to walk 56 more steps after it has expired.

JRT · Mar 26th, 2011, 7:39:14 AM

Wouldn't I still have to worry about a wild Pokemon showing up before I finish those 6 steps? Or would that not affect the RNG?

**ΩDonut** · Mar 26th, 2011, 7:44:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

Wouldn't I still have to worry about a wild Pokemon showing up before I finish those 6 steps? Or would that not affect the RNG?

To be on the safe side, you should activate another Repel. The Repel does nothing special with the RNG, it's just an easy way to count steps.

JRT · Mar 26th, 2011, 7:45:10 AM

Thanks

COKTAL · Mar 26th, 2011, 10:24:28 AM

I've heard you can re-release Thundurus if you KO it and rebattle the E4, like you could with roamers in Plat and HG/SS. What I want to know is when/where do you re-release it, and when would I need to abuse for it. Is it like HG/SS where it's determined once you beat the E4, or is it like the birds in platinum where you have to talk to a person to re-release them?

xElite · Mar 26th, 2011, 10:30:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat COKTAL

I've heard you can re-release Thundurus if you KO it and rebattle the E4, like you could with roamers in Plat and HG/SS. What I want to know is when/where do you re-release it, and when would I need to abuse for it. Is it like HG/SS where it's determined once you beat the E4, or is it like the birds in platinum where you have to talk to a person to re-release them?

When you beat the E4. But it's basically impossible to RNG abuse it there. You have to hit the right IV frame after the Elite 4, but battling advances the frame at a rate of 120 frames per second. At the very least, you will need to battle the Champion.

Mar 25th, 2011, 7:35:26 PM	#2554
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Back in 4th Gen when I would calibrate my seed through emloop, I would catch a pokemon and if I caught that same one 3 times, I knew I could hit that seed consistently. Is that not going to work with C-Gear because of the PID? __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Mar 25th, 2011, 7:46:19 PM	#2555
justenough215 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,961	The present calculator only works for the jap version? __________________ 4th Gen Battles Pearl FC: 0862 5825 1035

Mar 25th, 2011, 9:01:00 PM	#2557
ctccromer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 29	So i finally realized what yall meant by "calibrate" (I had been missing by 50-60 so i set callibration from 0 to -56 in ZomgTimer) and I've gotten within 5 frames at least 4 times now (got 2 from it once!) So now that I'm within view of it, is there anything at all that I can do to help improve that last little bit, or do I just gotta keep trying? Btw, walking less than 128 steps apparently does NOT mess with your frames, because I'm doing a seed on frame 3 and normally I induce a battle by turning (cant use sweet scent in the desert winds) but a few times Ive walked around and gotten one of the results shown __________________ There are many worlds, but they all share the same sky. One Sky, One Destiny.

Mar 25th, 2011, 9:08:35 PM	#2558
riddlinkid Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,435 Herro prease.	Will the spreads I found for my white version be the same on my black as long as I use the same DS? __________________ Platinum FC: 4597 9039 2618 New Trade Thing

Mar 25th, 2011, 9:30:18 PM	#2560
ctccromer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 29	So then let me get this straight. For the step counter: -128 is the golden number for frame progression -Entering/exiting zones (caves, pokecenter, etc) doesn't restart the number or anything -Saving saves that number and when you load the file it starts from there All true then? __________________ There are many worlds, but they all share the same sky. One Sky, One Destiny.

Mar 25th, 2011, 10:08:40 PM	#2561
legendarymaster Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 101 United States	NOOOOOOO!!!! I hit my seed but Zekrom was Modest!!! Also, if you kill the Zekrom, its Ivs change right? __________________ "He who laughs at himself never runs out of things to laugh at"

Mar 25th, 2011, 10:24:50 PM	#2563
Shinyshuppet1 Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 87 In a Graveyard.	I got a question about RNGing my ID/SID, when do I hit "A" on the second timer? The rest I know how to do it. I Hope anyone helps. ^^

Mar 26th, 2011, 1:04:04 AM	#2566
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Does anyone else have problems hitting delays past 10,000? For the life of me I haven't been able to be consistent with any of the 2 seeds I've tried, but that's all the Reporter keeps poping out. The first time I hit it I must have been lucky, because every other time it just jumps around. I just want to make sure it's not me before I become paranoid. __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Mar 26th, 2011, 7:39:14 AM	#2571
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Wouldn't I still have to worry about a wild Pokemon showing up before I finish those 6 steps? Or would that not affect the RNG? __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Mar 26th, 2011, 7:45:10 AM	#2573
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	Thanks __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

Mar 26th, 2011, 10:24:28 AM	#2574
COKTAL Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,054 Right here.	I've heard you can re-release Thundurus if you KO it and rebattle the E4, like you could with roamers in Plat and HG/SS. What I want to know is when/where do you re-release it, and when would I need to abuse for it. Is it like HG/SS where it's determined once you beat the E4, or is it like the birds in platinum where you have to talk to a person to re-release them? __________________ † I am a Christian and proud of it! Copy and paste this if you are too.† White FC: 2064-8475-0644. Heartgold FC: 2493-6336-6451.