5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 119

Exploits · Apr 1st, 2011, 11:49:53 PM

So I found a standard seed (7e8096f04d6e32d9) and it's supposed to have the IVs 31/31/31/13/31/31 on frame 3. But when I enter that seed into the main RNG window, those IVs don't appear.

edit: nevermind.

Novazero · Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:13:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Novazero

So I followed bearsfan092drums video guide on how to rng with c-gear. Though when I reach the point where you search for the ivs when you calibrate, the search doesn't find anything. What can I do to fix this?

Princess of Johto · Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:18:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Atomsk777

its great to have just found out my alternate DS is broken >.>... and so wait... I think I may have not described what I was asking well enough.... so does the mac adress affect what seeds are POSSIBLE? or just what the delay/frame with be?

I'm pretty sure both, but it shouldn't matter since all MAC addresses have good IV Spreads.

Atomsk777 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:27:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Princess of Johto

I'm pretty sure both, but it shouldn't matter since all MAC addresses have good IV Spreads.

yeah... I was trying to find one with 31/x/30/31/31/31.... then I opened up my search range a bit.... funny for me it was ONE frame outside of my original search range

OmegaForte · Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:38:26 AM

This is weird...

I'm going for a HP Ice spread (non-c-gear) on one of the roamers, but for some reason come up with a different spread that isn't listed in the main screen every time. I would have thought it was because I was advancing the frame 8 times oppose to 4, but that's not it. I also tried -2 seconds from target time and yet none match.

Yes, I have encounter type on roamers and generated seeds under roamers.

Princess of Johto · Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:52:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaForte

This is weird...

I'm going for a HP Ice spread (non-c-gear) on one of the roamers, but for some reason come up with a different spread that isn't listed in the main screen every time. I would have thought it was because I was advancing the frame 8 times oppose to 4, but that's not it. I also tried -2 seconds from target time and yet none match.

Yes, I have encounter type on roamers and generated seeds under roamers.

Are you doing the Key Press combos correctly?

OmegaForte · Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:01:36 AM

Yes. (B in this case) It probably has something to do with the roamers because I have no problems hitting wild/stationary Pokemon seeds. This is ridiculous. I tried without advancing the frame and get some other result that doesn't show up.

EDIT: JRT: There's an option for that but I heard it's still being figured out.

JRT · Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:01:50 AM

I think I heard someone say they were able to RNG standard seeds on their DSi. I'd like to know if anyone can verify that for me. Before anyone asks, I'm asking because I'm a lot more comfortable abusing on my DSi. It's actually a lot easier for me.

Fire Blast · Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:03:06 AM

Is it possible to find the parameters of the DSi?

Princess of Johto · Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:25:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaForte

Yes. (B in this case) It probably has something to do with the roamers because I have no problems hitting wild/stationary Pokemon seeds. This is ridiculous. I tried without advancing the frame and get some other result that doesn't show up.

EDIT: JRT: There's an option for that but I heard it's still being figured out.

Are you pressing A on the DS menu one second before your target second? Because the game takes one second to get seeded so you have to start one second before.

Also, are you holding B until you see the shooting stars?

OmegaForte · Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:28:57 AM

Yes and no. Btw you don't need to hold B that long. (I just hold it till "Pokemon company" disappears) I tested it out before with some random Pokemon and got the desired IVs.

Princess of Johto · Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:34:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaForte

Yes and no. Btw you don't need to hold B that long. (I just hold it till "Pokemon company" disappears) I tested it out before with some random Pokemon and got the desired IVs.

Really? Well, if that's true, then I have no idea what's wrong. But I would try holding it until the stars just in case.

bearsfan092 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:37:11 AM

Anyways, just placing this here. Was in the joke version of the thread:

Pokemon Black and White RNG Abuse: C Gear for Legends/Wild Pokemon

Pokemon Black and White RNG Abuse: Standard for Legends/Wild Pokemon- Part 1

Pokemon Black and White RNG Abuse: Standard for Legends/Wild Pokemon- Part 2

Exploits · Apr 2nd, 2011, 2:21:06 AM

If I want to catch a flawless, shiny pokemon I have to advance to the target IV Frame and then try to advance the PID frame that contains what I want without passing my target IV frame? Also without knowing what PID frame I start/am at?

If so, this sounds pretty impossible to accomplish without an Emulator.

**Toast++** · Apr 2nd, 2011, 3:02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Bunny_Man_OC

what was up with the joke version? :S

I expected it to be a joke, and to download a fake file, but it worked... so what exactly was the joke?

The ads, duh. Besides I think hat version wont work after midnight.

Bunny_Man_OC · Apr 2nd, 2011, 3:43:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ToastPlusOne

The ads, duh. Besides I think hat version wont work after midnight.

lol... I really didn't mind the ads to be honest :XD

but yah, I didn't get the "party's over" message until after making the post... just got it now, and decided to deleted the post since I didn't think anyone seen it...

Shinryu · Apr 2nd, 2011, 3:55:08 AM

Ok, is something screwed up with the link given at the front page for the new rng reporter? In the vid it clearly shows him using the english drop down option, yet all mine show are fucking japanese ones?

Bunny_Man_OC · Apr 2nd, 2011, 4:34:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shinryu

Ok, is something screwed up with the link given at the front page for the new rng reporter? In the vid it clearly shows him using the english drop down option, yet all mine show are fucking japanese ones?

the japanese ones will work for the C-Link abuse... I was using it and I was able to hit the seed anyways.

joshk_bra · Apr 2nd, 2011, 4:45:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Bunny_Man_OC

the japanese ones will work for the C-Link abuse... I was using it and I was able to hit the seed anyways.

But it doesnt work for non-Cgear :/ Im pretty sure thats what he is doing

**ΩDonut** · Apr 2nd, 2011, 4:47:51 AM

I meant to do some finishing touches on the real, final version and the guides tonight, but a family situation came up. Now I'm exhausted, so I'll finish it up tomorrow. In the meantime, you can screw around with the April Fools' version: http://eggmove.com/RNGReporter/RNGReporter941.zip

It's real and has (most of) the features that will be in the final release, including non-Japanese standard seeds (formerly known as non C-Gear). Just remember it only works if your computer's date is set to April 1st, and that DSi searches still don't work.

Also C-Gear seeds now have their initial frame listed as frame 1 by default, so you don't have to include the first two skipped frames in your math.

Shinryu · Apr 2nd, 2011, 4:59:45 AM

There's bound to be an irony somewhere that one would have to mess with a computer's date/time as well as the DS's date/time to RNG for non c-gear abuse XD

Eh I'll pass, I'll just wait till later today? I guess.

RotatingAtom · Apr 2nd, 2011, 8:06:02 AM

bearsfan092, your Video made it sound like you can not use
a stationary Legendary Pokémon for finding your DS parameters
and that you have to use a Sweet Scent'ed Pokémon for that.

I'm currently using Kyurem to find my DS parameters, since his IV's
are really easy to narrow down. Can I do that as well, or will I have
to use a Sweet Scent'd Pokémon? Are they generated diffently?

bearsfan092 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat RotatingAtom

bearsfan092, your Video made it sound like you can not use
a stationary Legendary Pokémon for finding your DS parameters
and that you have to use a Sweet Scent'ed Pokémon for that.

I'm currently using Kyurem to find my DS parameters, since his IV's
are really easy to narrow down. Can I do that as well, or will I have
to use a Sweet Scent'd Pokémon? Are they generated diffently?

When I was helping someone find their parameters, we used Terrakion as a stationary Pokemon. The parameter finder never found any results, so we switched to Sweet Scent, which worked. However, that was a single case, and it might end up working (user error happens a lot in RNG abuse). Give it a shot.

Sweet scented Pokemon are also more universal since not everyone still has legends left on their game.

jones115 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:07:39 AM

yeah dude i watched your vid,found my parameter's and stuff then,tired going after a timid hp ice petillil and got other pokes as test for it but the iv's were wrong when i checked the stats on pokemon online,i don't know something wrong or not

Kiebin · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat RotatingAtom

bearsfan092, your Video made it sound like you can not use
a stationary Legendary Pokémon for finding your DS parameters
and that you have to use a Sweet Scent'ed Pokémon for that.

I'm currently using Kyurem to find my DS parameters, since his IV's
are really easy to narrow down. Can I do that as well, or will I have
to use a Sweet Scent'd Pokémon? Are they generated diffently?

Yeah, you can use a Legendary to find your parameters. I've used Cobalion.

Apr 1st, 2011, 11:49:53 PM	#2951
Exploits Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 448	So I found a standard seed (7e8096f04d6e32d9) and it's supposed to have the IVs 31/31/31/13/31/31 on frame 3. But when I enter that seed into the main RNG window, those IVs don't appear. edit: nevermind. Last edited by Exploits; Apr 2nd, 2011 at 12:03:36 AM.

Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:38:26 AM	#2955
OmegaForte Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 732 The Undernet	This is weird... I'm going for a HP Ice spread (non-c-gear) on one of the roamers, but for some reason come up with a different spread that isn't listed in the main screen every time. I would have thought it was because I was advancing the frame 8 times oppose to 4, but that's not it. I also tried -2 seconds from target time and yet none match. Yes, I have encounter type on roamers and generated seeds under roamers. __________________ OT: Forte \| 10474 Awaiting when I can get my laptop full of RNG Pokemon fixed.

Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:01:36 AM	#2957
OmegaForte Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 732 The Undernet	Yes. (B in this case) It probably has something to do with the roamers because I have no problems hitting wild/stationary Pokemon seeds. This is ridiculous. I tried without advancing the frame and get some other result that doesn't show up. EDIT: JRT: There's an option for that but I heard it's still being figured out. __________________ OT: Forte \| 10474 Awaiting when I can get my laptop full of RNG Pokemon fixed. Last edited by OmegaForte; Apr 2nd, 2011 at 1:17:34 AM.

Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:01:50 AM	#2958
JRT Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,327	I think I heard someone say they were able to RNG standard seeds on their DSi. I'd like to know if anyone can verify that for me. Before anyone asks, I'm asking because I'm a lot more comfortable abusing on my DSi. It's actually a lot easier for me. __________________ Diamond FC: 0774 1010 8828 - Trainer Name: Lukas Platinum FC: 4683 9796 4452 - Trainer Name: Lucas Black FC: 2752 0519 8010 - Trainer Name: Hilbert Pokemon have now entered the DWMA! Check it out!

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Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:28:57 AM	#2961
OmegaForte Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 732 The Undernet	Yes and no. Btw you don't need to hold B that long. (I just hold it till "Pokemon company" disappears) I tested it out before with some random Pokemon and got the desired IVs. __________________ OT: Forte \| 10474 Awaiting when I can get my laptop full of RNG Pokemon fixed.

Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:37:11 AM	#2963
bearsfan092 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,048 Yoomtah!	Anyways, just placing this here. Was in the joke version of the thread: Pokemon Black and White RNG Abuse: C Gear for Legends/Wild Pokemon Pokemon Black and White RNG Abuse: Standard for Legends/Wild Pokemon- Part 1 Pokemon Black and White RNG Abuse: Standard for Legends/Wild Pokemon- Part 2 __________________ Black FC: 3954 7943 2104 Diamond FC: 1590 6595 3602 RNG Abuse Tutorial Videos and Wifi Battle Videos-Now with revamped videos for current software Say what? Bears has a trade thread again?

Apr 2nd, 2011, 2:21:06 AM	#2964
Exploits Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 448	If I want to catch a flawless, shiny pokemon I have to advance to the target IV Frame and then try to advance the PID frame that contains what I want without passing my target IV frame? Also without knowing what PID frame I start/am at? If so, this sounds pretty impossible to accomplish without an Emulator.

Apr 2nd, 2011, 3:55:08 AM	#2967
Shinryu Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,449 AZ, land of endless heat...	Ok, is something screwed up with the link given at the front page for the new rng reporter? In the vid it clearly shows him using the english drop down option, yet all mine show are fucking japanese ones? __________________ VGC 2009: Blame the stupid lotto >.> VGC 2010: Regionals： 3rd Phoenix: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72274 VGC 2011: Did not attend, protest against moving Phoenix off Regionals list VGC 2012: TBD

Apr 2nd, 2011, 4:47:51 AM	#2970
ΩDonut sometimes experimentation begins with "let's multi battle strip pokémon" Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,691	I meant to do some finishing touches on the real, final version and the guides tonight, but a family situation came up. Now I'm exhausted, so I'll finish it up tomorrow. In the meantime, you can screw around with the April Fools' version: http://eggmove.com/RNGReporter/RNGReporter941.zip It's real and has (most of) the features that will be in the final release, including non-Japanese standard seeds (formerly known as non C-Gear). Just remember it only works if your computer's date is set to April 1st, and that DSi searches still don't work. Also C-Gear seeds now have their initial frame listed as frame 1 by default, so you don't have to include the first two skipped frames in your math. Last edited by ΩDonut; Apr 2nd, 2011 at 4:58:05 AM.

Apr 2nd, 2011, 4:59:45 AM	#2971
Shinryu Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,449 AZ, land of endless heat...	There's bound to be an irony somewhere that one would have to mess with a computer's date/time as well as the DS's date/time to RNG for non c-gear abuse XD Eh I'll pass, I'll just wait till later today? I guess. __________________ VGC 2009: Blame the stupid lotto >.> VGC 2010: Regionals： 3rd Phoenix: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72274 VGC 2011: Did not attend, protest against moving Phoenix off Regionals list VGC 2012: TBD

Apr 2nd, 2011, 8:06:02 AM	#2972
RotatingAtom Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 299	bearsfan092, your Video made it sound like you can not use a stationary Legendary Pokémon for finding your DS parameters and that you have to use a Sweet Scent'ed Pokémon for that. I'm currently using Kyurem to find my DS parameters, since his IV's are really easy to narrow down. Can I do that as well, or will I have to use a Sweet Scent'd Pokémon? Are they generated diffently? __________________ Avatar by the amazing Yilx!

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jones115 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 658	yeah dude i watched your vid,found my parameter's and stuff then,tired going after a timid hp ice petillil and got other pokes as test for it but the iv's were wrong when i checked the stats on pokemon online,i don't know something wrong or not __________________ WHEN YOU CMT COULD YOU POST IN MY THREAD PLEASE,TO ALL NEW World Trade thread with Metalex soul silver: 0045 6797 7763 WHITE:3997-5798-1318 BLACK2:0562-4637-3042