5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 120

bearsfan092 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat jones115

yeah dude i watched your vid,found my parameter's and stuff then,tired going after a timid hp ice petillil and got other pokes as test for it but the iv's were wrong when i checked the stats on pokemon online,i don't know something wrong or not

Well obviously you didn't hit your seed or you didn't hit your frame. Remember the Timer0 value can change a little bit, which is why I recommend doing the parameter process several times to see what's your most common value.

The great thing about Standard abuse is that if something does go wrong, it's as simple as reloading your DS and hitting down to the second. No big deal.

Mega Metal · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:11:00 AM

Um, I have a question. I've been trying to get a HP Electric Vanillite. I followed all the directions in this guide. -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M26P...&feature=feedf

But it seems that I can't get a match to any of the IVs when I turn on the C Gear and catch the Pokemon. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

bearsfan092 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:13:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mega Metal

Um, I have a question. I've been trying to get a HP Electric Vanillite. I followed all the directions in this guide. -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M26P...&feature=feedf

But it seems that I can't get a match to any of the IVs when I turn on the C Gear and catch the Pokemon. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

A common mistake that people seem to be making is that because I set my DS clock 2 minutes before my target, others assume that they should too (why is beyond me). You only set the DS clock before your target only as far as EonTimer/ZomgTimer tells you. If that's not the problem, there's some sort of user error going on. Make sure you're sweet scenting in an NPC free zone.

jones115 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:14:57 AM

i did calibration 2 times,using the same time and got C7F twice should i do it more like about 10 times or so,also when you do a key press combo do you hold down that key untill you see the nintendo logo and then let go right.

bearsfan092 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:18:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat jones115

i did calibration 2 times,using the same time and got C7F twice should i do it more like about 10 times or so,also when you do a key press combo do you hold down that key untill you see the nintendo logo and then let go right.

Yeah. Really you can hold it as long as you want. Fiddle around with it.

Also, it can't hurt to do calibration like 2 or 3 more times, but it sounds like you've got some freak (possibly user based) error.

Mega Metal · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:18:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat bearsfan092

A common mistake that people seem to be making is that because I set my DS clock 2 minutes before my target, others assume that they should too (why is beyond me). You only set the DS clock before your target only as far as EonTimer/ZomgTimer tells you. If that's not the problem, there's some sort of user error going on. Make sure you're sweet scenting in an NPC free zone.

Actually, my frame is higher than 3. (It's 9) I've been advancing the frame by walking 6 steps in tall grass. Does that do something weird?

Kiebin · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:19:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mega Metal

Actually, my frame is higher than 3. (It's 9) I've been advancing the frame by walking 6 steps in tall grass. Does that do something weird?

You need to walk 256 steps with 3 Pokémon in your party or 128 with 6 Pokémon in your party.

bearsfan092 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:20:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mega Metal

Actually, my frame is higher than 3. (It's 9) I've been advancing the frame by walking 6 steps in tall grass. Does that do something weird?

How do you know it's always 6 steps? Unless you happen to always be ambushed by a wild pokemon at 6 steps, in which case, wow.

Besides, walking in grass doesn't advance the IVRNG. However, I'll bet there's an NPC advancing the IVRNG. This is why you find a quiet zone and use a sweet scenter. Follow the instructions please.

Mega Metal · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:21:10 AM

I thought that when you're in tall grass it advances the frame by one...

EDIT: I'm not in an area where there's moving NPCs. (Or at least there are no moving NPCs I see...)

Kiebin · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:21:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mega Metal

I thought that when you're in tall grass it advances the frame by one...

That's for the PIDRNG frame. 128 steps with X Pokémon in your party advances the IVRNG frame by X.

jones115 · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:26:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat bearsfan092

Yeah. Really you can hold it as long as you want. Fiddle around with it.

Also, it can't hurt to do calibration like 2 or 3 more times, but it sounds like you've got some freak (possibly user based) error.

i should calibrate 2 or 3 more times using the same time of 10:48:25 right and see of the timer0 changes or not right

JRT · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:34:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

I think I heard someone say they were able to RNG standard seeds on their DSi. I'd like to know if anyone can verify that for me. Before anyone asks, I'm asking because I'm a lot more comfortable abusing on my DSi. It's actually a lot easier for me.

New page.

Rocket Boss Giovanni · Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:43:56 AM

If I am not getting the IVs I want (they're supposed to be on Frame 1) for Standard Abuse, how can I rectify the problem? Like, I'm supposed to have a 31/31/31/x/31/31 on Frame 1, April 24 at 00:33:55 and holding Y. However, whenever I try the spread I never get the IVs I want. Any ideas?

New Page.

**ΩDonut** · Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRT

I think I heard someone say they were able to RNG standard seeds on their DSi. I'd like to know if anyone can verify that for me. Before anyone asks, I'm asking because I'm a lot more comfortable abusing on my DSi. It's actually a lot easier for me.

If you hit the same date\time\timer0 on a DSi over and over, you still will get the same seed, but the problem is nobody can predict seeds on a DSi. Not even the Japanese have figured this out.

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Originally Posted by Fat Rocket Boss Giovanni

If I am not getting the IVs I want (they're supposed to be on Frame 1) for Standard Abuse, how can I rectify the problem? Like, I'm supposed to have a 31/31/31/x/31/31 on Frame 1, April 24 at 00:33:55 and holding Y. However, whenever I try the spread I never get the IVs I want. Any ideas?

New Page.

Try redoing your parameter search with the IVs you keep getting instead, it'll give you an idea of what's happening. Just remember to select Y in the Held Button combo box.

Human · Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

If you hit the same date\time\timer0 on a DSi over and over, you still will get the same seed, but the problem is nobody can predict seeds on a DSi. Not even the Japanese have figured this out.

I've tried doing this, and putting the seeds I can get from button combinations to see if there are any good spreads. There are a lot, but nearly all of them are on high frames and are not worth it. You can probably use it for breeding if you want though.

RotatingAtom · Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:13:50 AM

Timer0 is being an asshole.
I know it's not an important question, but does anyone know
a) why we can't predict it 100% (I get either C7B or C7C)
b) what the math-problem behind that is? Is the value Timer0 assumes
dependant on your seed and not vice-versa? I'm comfused as to why we
can find all other parameters precisely, but not this one.

Akatsuki-Power · Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:30:17 AM

i've a problem to find my DS parameters.
i've advance the VCount and Timer0 range 7 times,but i haven't find my ds parameters yet.
should i advance the GxStat and VFrame range,too?

Taruta · Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:48:31 AM

Quick question dudes, is the Zorua in Castelia City considered a "Gift Pokemon (Not Mystery Gift)" or would it be considered stationary?

**Toast++** · Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:17:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat RotatingAtom

Timer0 is being an asshole.
I know it's not an important question, but does anyone know
a) why we can't predict it 100% (I get either C7B or C7C)
b) what the math-problem behind that is? Is the value Timer0 assumes
dependant on your seed and not vice-versa? I'm comfused as to why we
can find all other parameters precisely, but not this one.

This is a hardware parameter, not a software one. It has nothing to do with what seed you hit. We can't predict it 100% because it's based on performance variables.

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Originally Posted by Fat Akatsuki-Power

i've a problem to find my DS parameters.
i've advance the VCount and Timer0 range 7 times,but i haven't find my ds parameters yet.
should i advance the GxStat and VFrame range,too?

The default range should eventually find something for you as long as you're using a DS lite/brick and a retail cart.

PungentFruit · Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:20:06 AM

When RNGing with a Standard abuse do we have to input the ID and SID? And if we do how can I find that?

**Toast++** · Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:22:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat PungentFruit

When RNGing with a Standard abuse do we have to input the ID and SID? And if we do how can I find that?

Shininess is based on those numbers. You wont get correct PID prediction either, but since you're not looking for shiny, it doesn't matter.

**Mario With Lasers** · Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:24:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Bond697

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=626

Err, so I have to RNG for it treating the "Trainer warped to Entralink" part as if I were about to activate my C-Gear on a usual RNG, and then, if I want frame 30, to advance my frame to 9 by the forest already, and then talking to Torchic? Is that so?

Newts · Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:28:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ToastPlusOne

The default range should eventually find something for you as long as you're using a DS lite/brick and a retail cart.

The default range isn't picking anything up for me either but I've just started using a rom for the purpose of cloning.

Does this mean I need to start using my cart again or is there an adjustment I need to make when configuring for a rom?

**Toast++** · Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:34:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Newts

The default range isn't picking anything up for me either but I've just started using a rom for the purpose of cloning.

Does this mean I need to start using my cart again or is there an adjustment I need to make when configuring for a rom?

I assume you mean a flash cart? If that's the case, then the values vary a lot from cart to cart. The timer0 also varies a ton on most flash carts.

MMX · Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:37:49 AM

I'm getting wacky results when I'm re-calibrating

1st Test:
Actual Seconds: 1
VCount: 60
GxStat: 6
VFrame: 6
Timer 0: C7F

2nd Test:
Actual Seconds: 6
VCount: 60
GxStat: 6
VFrame: 6
Timer 0: C7F

3rd Test:
Actual Seconds: 16
VCount: 60
GxStat: 6
VFrame: 6
Timer 0: C7E

4th Test:
Actual Seconds: 16
VCount: 60
GxStat: 6
VFrame: 6
Timer 0: C7F

5th Test:
Actual Seconds: 31
VCount: 60
GxStat: 6
VFrame: 6
Timer 0: C7E

Should I use any of these?

Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:14:57 AM	#2979
jones115 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 658	i did calibration 2 times,using the same time and got C7F twice should i do it more like about 10 times or so,also when you do a key press combo do you hold down that key untill you see the nintendo logo and then let go right. __________________ WHEN YOU CMT COULD YOU POST IN MY THREAD PLEASE,TO ALL NEW World Trade thread with Metalex soul silver: 0045 6797 7763 WHITE:3997-5798-1318 BLACK2:0562-4637-3042

Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:43:56 AM	#2988
Rocket Boss Giovanni Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 344 Viridian City	If I am not getting the IVs I want (they're supposed to be on Frame 1) for Standard Abuse, how can I rectify the problem? Like, I'm supposed to have a 31/31/31/x/31/31 on Frame 1, April 24 at 00:33:55 and holding Y. However, whenever I try the spread I never get the IVs I want. Any ideas? New Page. __________________ SoulSilver FC: 1162 9116 7392 Black 2 FC: 0433 6091 3741

Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:13:50 AM	#2991
RotatingAtom Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 299	Timer0 is being an asshole. I know it's not an important question, but does anyone know a) why we can't predict it 100% (I get either C7B or C7C) b) what the math-problem behind that is? Is the value Timer0 assumes dependant on your seed and not vice-versa? I'm comfused as to why we can find all other parameters precisely, but not this one. __________________ Avatar by the amazing Yilx!

Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:30:17 AM	#2992
Akatsuki-Power Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 350 Germany	i've a problem to find my DS parameters. i've advance the VCount and Timer0 range 7 times,but i haven't find my ds parameters yet. should i advance the GxStat and VFrame range,too? __________________ My Trade Thread 3610 3308 8616(trade) Note:All my Pokémon were rng'd on DS.

Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:37:49 AM	#3000
MMX Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,870	I'm getting wacky results when I'm re-calibrating 1st Test: Actual Seconds: 1 VCount: 60 GxStat: 6 VFrame: 6 Timer 0: C7F 2nd Test: Actual Seconds: 6 VCount: 60 GxStat: 6 VFrame: 6 Timer 0: C7F 3rd Test: Actual Seconds: 16 VCount: 60 GxStat: 6 VFrame: 6 Timer 0: C7E 4th Test: Actual Seconds: 16 VCount: 60 GxStat: 6 VFrame: 6 Timer 0: C7F 5th Test: Actual Seconds: 31 VCount: 60 GxStat: 6 VFrame: 6 Timer 0: C7E Should I use any of these? __________________ MMX's Solo Adventure HeartGold FC: 3611 4270 1412 White FC: 4728 6168 0900 White 2 FC: 2967 7403 8403

Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:11:00 AM	#2977
Mega Metal Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 224	Um, I have a question. I've been trying to get a HP Electric Vanillite. I followed all the directions in this guide. -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M26P...&feature=feedf But it seems that I can't get a match to any of the IVs when I turn on the C Gear and catch the Pokemon. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

Apr 2nd, 2011, 9:21:10 AM	#2984
Mega Metal Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 224	I thought that when you're in tall grass it advances the frame by one... EDIT: I'm not in an area where there's moving NPCs. (Or at least there are no moving NPCs I see...)

Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:48:31 AM	#2993
Taruta Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 90	Quick question dudes, is the Zorua in Castelia City considered a "Gift Pokemon (Not Mystery Gift)" or would it be considered stationary?

Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:20:06 AM	#2995
PungentFruit Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 348 #swaggg	When RNGing with a Standard abuse do we have to input the ID and SID? And if we do how can I find that?