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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:41:25 AM   #3001
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Yeh I meant a flash cart. When you say it varies a lot, do you mean between different carts? I'd like to hope each individual cart will remain a constant =/

I just find it easier to do my RNG abuse where I can do my cloning, saves a lot of double handling when I want to trade.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:42:08 AM   #3002
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I'm getting wacky results when I'm re-calibrating
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Should I use any of these?
Well.. they're all identical except for the timer 0. That has a tendency to fluxuate a little. I'd use C7F.


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I mean both. Each cart is a bit different and only certain ones are consistent. I'm not sure how often the others are inconsistent but when they are it's by a lot.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:44:24 AM   #3003
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I downloaded the updated RNG Reporter 9 and I'm still getting "Party's over. Go download the real thing"

I have framework 2.0 and 4.0 installed in case. It's still giving me the "Party's over. Go download the real thing" message even after re-downloading RNG Reporter 9.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:47:01 AM   #3004
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Ok, I've got one last calibration. I'm thinking I should use this as both this and test #4 are the exact same.

6th Test:
Actual Seconds: 16
VCount: 60
GxStat: 6
VFrame: 6
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:50:07 AM   #3005
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I downloaded the updated RNG Reporter 9 and I'm still getting "Party's over. Go download the real thing"

I have framework 2.0 and 4.0 installed in case. It's still giving me the "Party's over. Go download the real thing" message even after re-downloading RNG Reporter 9.
Adjust your date to 4/1/2011.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:53:03 AM   #3006
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Ok, I've got one last calibration. I'm thinking I should use this as both this and test #4 are the exact same.

6th Test:
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Timer 0: C7F
Haha.. Most of your tests were exactly the same. The seconds it purely dependent on when you started your game and are more for reference than calibrating.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 11:54:01 AM   #3007
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Adjust your date to 4/1/2011.
Thanks. Working again, forgot ;x
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:13:02 PM   #3008
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so, up to now it is impossible to find the parameters for flashcarts?
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:17:07 PM   #3009
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This is a hardware parameter, not a software one. It has nothing to do with what seed you hit. We can't predict it 100% because it's based on performance variables.



The default range should eventually find something for you as long as you're using a DS lite/brick and a retail cart.
i use a ds lite and a german black retail cart.
now i search with a VCount range of 0-9999 and a timer0 range of 0-FFFF
and i´ve found a result.the strange is the Timer0 value is E844 and my actual second is 25,although i clicked me in the 25th second in the ingame.
shouldn´t be the actual second 26 like in bearsfan's video?
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:17:58 PM   #3010
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Why does out computer's clock need to be April Fools day for RNG Reporter to work? Is it a joke? Will that be changed eventually?
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:19:50 PM   #3011
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so, up to now it is impossible to find the parameters for flashcarts?
No. Just more difficult depending on what kind. I have a DSTwo and it's consistent. I could give a range to anyone with that particular cart. I imagine that if someone else has found their's on whatever cart you have, they could help you.

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i use a ds lite and a german black retail cart.
now i search with a VCount range of 0-9999 and a timer0 range of 0-FFFF
and i´ve found a result.the strange is the Timer0 value is E844 and my actual second is 25,although i clicked me in the 25th second in the ingame.
shouldn´t be the actual second 26 like in bearsfan's video?
The actual second is just there for reference. The VCount won't be out of the 50-70 range. The timer0 will be 3 hex in length, not 4.

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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:20:59 PM   #3012
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ok, so before when I got my parameters I had a timer 0 of c7f, and I know it was that because my seeds worked and I managed to RNG a few Pokemon with it, but now when I try to hit one of my seeds I'm getting the one on timer0: c7e, according to DS parameters, will I have to redo all my seed searches or will this change? I have tried starting the game at different intervals in the same second to no avail.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:21:47 PM   #3013
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How do you control the Timer 0 thing? Or do you just have to go through trial and error til' you hit your seed?
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:22:36 PM   #3014
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Does weather still affect the RNG like it did in gen 4? I've got hail at the Cold Storage area.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:23:19 PM   #3015
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ooh I just realised that those values were put there to make a search...
ok now I'm searching for the cyclods evolution with 2.2 firmware (if it matters).

p.s. sorry for my english.

p.p.s. wich second do I have to write in the "ds parameter finder"? the one at wich I opened the game or the one at wich I pressed A to continue?
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Does weather still affect the RNG like it did in gen 4? I've got hail at the Cold Storage area.
Not sure about that particular area, but yes. Weather still affects it.

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How do you control the Timer 0 thing? Or do you just have to go through trial and error til' you hit your seed?
You don't. Just try to be consistent with your reset methods, that should help.

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ok, so before when I got my parameters I had a timer 0 of c7f, and I know it was that because my seeds worked and I managed to RNG a few Pokemon with it, but now when I try to hit one of my seeds I'm getting the one on timer0: c7e, according to DS parameters, will I have to redo all my seed searches or will this change? I have tried starting the game at different intervals in the same second to no avail.
It fluxuates a little. No, you don't have to re-search. Hopefully you'll get the C7F when you try to RNG something.


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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:35:00 PM   #3017
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ooh I just realised that those values were put there to make a search...
ok now I'm searching for the cyclods evolution with 2.2 firmware (if it matters).

p.s. sorry for my english.

p.p.s. wich second do I have to write in the "ds parameter finder"? the one at wich I opened the game or the one at wich I pressed A to continue?

you can't really use a cycloDS. it does something funny when prepping the SHA message that will be used in creating your initial seed.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:37:05 PM   #3018
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I finished the search but it found nothing. I put Vcount from 0 to 99 and timer0 from 0 to FFF. what can I do?
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oh. well, I don't know what a SHA message is, but I guess it is important...
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Is it possible to find the parameters of the DSi?
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:44:26 PM   #3020
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not at the moment. to even test it you would need a japanese dsi/LL and a japanese copy of the game.

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I finished the search but it found nothing. I put Vcount from 0 to 99 and timer0 from 0 to FFF. what can I do?
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oh. well, I don't know what a SHA message is, but I guess it is important...
try again when they release firmware 2.3. it may change at that point.
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What about emulators? Can I standard abuse on those?
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 12:52:59 PM   #3022
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Why does out computer's clock need to be April Fools day for RNG Reporter to work? Is it a joke? Will that be changed eventually? *facepalm*

just..

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I'll take that as a maybe...otherwise is says something about the party ending
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for those of you who are having trouble hitting your iv's i would like to think that what i have tired and has work 97% of the time just now works,if you have a key to press down that is, when you hard load the game. what you do is "(when you press A to load your game,you want to hold down you key past the nintendo screen untill you get to the black gamefreak screen and wait about half that screen (count to 2) then let go and mash A ) that should do it.you can try it.if it doesn't work then i don't know.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2011, 1:18:19 PM   #3024
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for those of you who are having trouble hitting your iv's i would like to think that what i have tired and has work 97% of the time just now works,if you have a key to press down that is, when you hard load the game. what you do is "(when you press A to load your game,you want to hold down you key past the nintendo screen untill you get to the black gamefreak screen and wait about half that screen (count to 2) then let go and mash A ) that should do it.you can try it.if it doesn't work then i don't know.
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