5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 207

andrea · Apr 25th, 2011, 10:29:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dark Druid Nergal

To clarify, I'm not concerned with its gender or nature. I'm concerned with the fact that it was a Piloswine instead of a Ditto. Does advancing the PIDRNG's frame change the encountered Pokemon?

Yes. Enter your full seed into PIDRNG and you can see how it changes in each PID frame advancement.

**ΩDonut** · Apr 25th, 2011, 10:34:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Dark Druid Nergal

To clarify, I'm not concerned with its gender or nature. I'm concerned with the fact that it was a Piloswine instead of a Ditto. Does advancing the PIDRNG's frame change the encountered Pokemon?

Yes, because the PIDRNG is what determines the encounter slot, not the IVRNG. Don't mix up the IVRNG and PIDRNG. They have no bearing on each other.

firestorm xl · Apr 25th, 2011, 10:37:48 PM

alright so im trying to find shiny spreads with the ivs i want and im not getting any results. i have the shiny box checked and im on standard seed. should i keep searching every month for the spread or is it not possible for me to get the spread i want?

COKTAL · Apr 25th, 2011, 10:37:58 PM

Does weather effect frames like it did in 4th gen? I'm working on abusing Thundurus, but I'm struggling to find where my starting frame for natures/shiny is. I've done 4 attempts, each time doing one more chatot call than the previous and I think I've found my starting frame, but they are still spread out a decent amount (204, 214, 222, 223). So should I just do multiple ones without any advances and see if I can get a more concise range, or does that appear to be okay for what I need?

Also, any tips for those that have abused shiny Thundurus before would be appreciated.

MMX · Apr 25th, 2011, 10:53:48 PM

When I hit a PID with a "True" for DW ability, am I guaranteed to have the DW ability, or is it a 40% chance?

Kaphotics · Apr 25th, 2011, 10:56:25 PM

Rain advances the PIDRNG by 60/s.
Earlier in the thread someone had a frame 1900+ offset.

Snow advances it to 316+ offset off frame 1.

Use the PID%6 and a lot of trial and error to find your initial frame (accounting rain).

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DW inheritance is a current bug due to the correction of everstones, looks like.

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Originally Posted by Fat MeGaMaN X

I hit the exact same seed for when I bred my DW swablu, and I got the DW ability. But when I bred Gligar, it had Sand Veil.

You didnt hit the same frame! You might have had multiple shiny frames, but different pre-IV PIDRNG results.

Assuming you didnt use power items... It was working before, we had to correct everstones and DW will be corrected later. It's a 40% chance.

MMX · Apr 25th, 2011, 10:59:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kaphotics

Rain advances the PIDRNG by 60/s.
Earlier in the thread someone had a frame 1900+ offset.

Snow advances it to 316+ off frame 1.

DW inheritance is a current bug due to the correction of everstones, looks like.

I hit the exact same seed for when I bred my DW swablu, and I got the DW ability. But when I bred Gligar, it had Sand Veil.

**V4Victini** · Apr 25th, 2011, 11:03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat COKTAL

Does weather effect frames like it did in 4th gen? I'm working on abusing Thundurus, but I'm struggling to find where my starting frame for natures/shiny is. I've done 4 attempts, each time doing one more chatot call than the previous and I think I've found my starting frame, but they are still spread out a decent amount (204, 214, 222, 223). So should I just do multiple ones without any advances and see if I can get a more concise range, or does that appear to be okay for what I need?

Also, any tips for those that have abused shiny Thundurus before would be appreciated.

Unfortunately it does, making the roamers a hassle to RNG

**V4Victini** · Apr 25th, 2011, 11:10:02 PM

Is it possible to RNG the Magkarp sld on Marvelous Bridge to ne Shiny or no?

Zandock · Apr 25th, 2011, 11:12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat MeGaMaN X

I hit the exact same seed for when I bred my DW swablu, and I got the DW ability. But when I bred Gligar, it had Sand Veil.

Like he said, it looks like it is bugged somehow. When I was finding my starting PID frame for my Vulpix, the ones that said True were Drought. But when I hit my target shiny frame, it wound up being Flash Fire even though it was listed as True there. I'm guessing more research is needed on the subject, I'm not knowledgeable on the inner workings of it.

COKTAL · Apr 25th, 2011, 11:13:22 PM

Okay, so since it's April I've got snow when I walk out. Does it advance it by 316/second, or is it a one time deal. And does the rain that it generates effect the frame, or is everything set before it effects the weather?

kenhcwoo · Apr 26th, 2011, 12:49:51 AM

Is there any idea of how seeding works in flashcarts? I'm using an R4 with Wood DS firmware.

I'd actually be interested in helping with some research, but I have no idea how to even get started my DS parameters because it doesn't work with the flashcarts. I'm also having trouble finding any AR codes that show the MTRNG seeds, and the PID seeds for the US version of the games.

Pokethan · Apr 26th, 2011, 1:09:19 AM

I am afraid of asking this because I dread what the answer might be. Do DSi's still not work for any 5th gen PRNG? I know that they don't work with Non-Cgear but do they not work with C-gear seeds too?

firestorm xl · Apr 26th, 2011, 1:10:51 AM

Dsi's work with C-Gear. ive done C-Gear with my dsi before

Pokethan · Apr 26th, 2011, 1:22:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat firestorm xl

Dsi's work with C-Gear. ive done C-Gear with my dsi before

Ok I was just wondering why when I tried to put in my DS parameters on the RNG Reporter 9.75 I went to DS types and it had for the DSi option "not working." So do I just select DSi and do everything else normally or is there anything special I have to do with the RNG Reporter?

Kiebin · Apr 26th, 2011, 1:23:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Pokethan

Ok I was just wondering why when I tried to put in my DS parameters on the RNG Reporter 9.75 I went to DS types and it had for the DSi option "not working." So do I just select DSi and do everything else normally or is there anything special I have to do with the RNG Reporter?

For C-Gear seeds you don't need any parameters besides your MAC Adress.

Pokethan · Apr 26th, 2011, 1:29:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Kiebin

For C-Gear seeds you don't need any parameters besides your MAC Adress.

Alright so the DS type doesn't matter then? Alright I will just put in the MAC address and do everything else normally. Thanks for the help.

Kaphotics · Apr 26th, 2011, 1:49:38 AM

Prerequisites
 RNG Reporter

o Note to Mac Users: This software works under Windows and Linux. PPRNG is the Mac equivalent of the 5th Generation RNG Reporter. Use it instead.

 A clock with a clear Seconds reading.
 DS Original or DS Lite

o DSi series and 3DS are only able to abuse IVs with the C-Gear method

It's in the first page of the guide I've posted on the past two + pages...

Pokethan · Apr 26th, 2011, 1:53:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kaphotics

Prerequisites
 RNG Reporter

o Note to Mac Users: This software works under Windows and Linux. PPRNG is the Mac equivalent of the 5th Generation RNG Reporter. Use it instead.

 A clock with a clear Seconds reading.
 DS Original or DS Lite

o DSi series and 3DS are only able to abuse IVs with the C-Gear method

It's in the first page of the guide I've posted on the past two + pages...

Im sorry for my stupidity. Im terrible at seeing stuff like that.

**ΩDonut** · Apr 26th, 2011, 2:24:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat kenhcwoo

Is there any idea of how seeding works in flashcarts? I'm using an R4 with Wood DS firmware.

I'd actually be interested in helping with some research, but I have no idea how to even get started my DS parameters because it doesn't work with the flashcarts. I'm also having trouble finding any AR codes that show the MTRNG seeds, and the PID seeds for the US version of the games.

Flashcarts come in all sorts of models and firmwares and have different SD card types. All of these affect the parameters in many different ways, and we're not going to spend time tracking down them all. You're just going to have to find your own parameters. RNG Reporter lets you specify a range, so just do that.

Reaga · Apr 26th, 2011, 2:26:13 AM

Woohoo, back to C-gear for my first Entralink RNG. So I hit my seed as I used to (or pray I did), enter Entralink immediately, then RNG by steps? And if I remember correct, gotta be frame 3 or higher.

**voodoo pimp** · Apr 26th, 2011, 3:11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Reaga

Woohoo, back to C-gear for my first Entralink RNG. So I hit my seed as I used to (or pray I did), enter Entralink immediately, then RNG by steps? And if I remember correct, gotta be frame 3 or higher.

If I understand it correctly, there's some inconsistency in the starting IV frame, so if you can, it's better to grab a female and RNG breed it.

firestorm xl · Apr 26th, 2011, 3:21:07 AM

what does the star by a place in the encounter slots mean?

Reaga · Apr 26th, 2011, 3:22:35 AM

I was afraid of that.

I managed to retrieve the female nidoran from the other day, and figured RNGing the new Nidoking would be easier if both parents had a bunch of 31s. I know my current Nidoking has excellent IVs, not perfect but pretty close. Figured if the other parent did everything nicely, the child would get the perfection

**ΩDonut** · Apr 26th, 2011, 3:26:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat firestorm xl

what does the star by a place in the encounter slots mean?

Refresh the encounter table page, I fixed it so it's clear.

Apr 25th, 2011, 10:37:48 PM	#5153
firestorm xl Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 430	alright so im trying to find shiny spreads with the ivs i want and im not getting any results. i have the shiny box checked and im on standard seed. should i keep searching every month for the spread or is it not possible for me to get the spread i want? __________________ White Friendcode:3053-6810-6674 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3480154<---- New trade thread.

Apr 25th, 2011, 10:37:58 PM	#5154
COKTAL Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,054 Right here.	Does weather effect frames like it did in 4th gen? I'm working on abusing Thundurus, but I'm struggling to find where my starting frame for natures/shiny is. I've done 4 attempts, each time doing one more chatot call than the previous and I think I've found my starting frame, but they are still spread out a decent amount (204, 214, 222, 223). So should I just do multiple ones without any advances and see if I can get a more concise range, or does that appear to be okay for what I need? Also, any tips for those that have abused shiny Thundurus before would be appreciated. __________________ † I am a Christian and proud of it! Copy and paste this if you are too.† White FC: 2064-8475-0644. Heartgold FC: 2493-6336-6451.

Apr 25th, 2011, 10:53:48 PM	#5155
MMX Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,870	When I hit a PID with a "True" for DW ability, am I guaranteed to have the DW ability, or is it a 40% chance? __________________ MMX's Solo Adventure HeartGold FC: 3611 4270 1412 White FC: 4728 6168 0900 White 2 FC: 2967 7403 8403

Apr 25th, 2011, 11:10:02 PM	#5159
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Apr 25th, 2011, 11:13:22 PM	#5161
COKTAL Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,054 Right here.	Okay, so since it's April I've got snow when I walk out. Does it advance it by 316/second, or is it a one time deal. And does the rain that it generates effect the frame, or is everything set before it effects the weather? __________________ † I am a Christian and proud of it! Copy and paste this if you are too.† White FC: 2064-8475-0644. Heartgold FC: 2493-6336-6451.

Apr 26th, 2011, 12:49:51 AM	#5162
kenhcwoo Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 4 Toronto	Is there any idea of how seeding works in flashcarts? I'm using an R4 with Wood DS firmware. I'd actually be interested in helping with some research, but I have no idea how to even get started my DS parameters because it doesn't work with the flashcarts. I'm also having trouble finding any AR codes that show the MTRNG seeds, and the PID seeds for the US version of the games.

Apr 26th, 2011, 1:09:19 AM	#5163
Pokethan Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 528 Wyncote, PA	I am afraid of asking this because I dread what the answer might be. Do DSi's still not work for any 5th gen PRNG? I know that they don't work with Non-Cgear but do they not work with C-gear seeds too?

Apr 26th, 2011, 1:10:51 AM	#5164
firestorm xl Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 430	Dsi's work with C-Gear. ive done C-Gear with my dsi before __________________ White Friendcode:3053-6810-6674 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3480154<---- New trade thread.

Apr 26th, 2011, 1:49:38 AM	#5168
Kaphotics Remodeling Kitchens Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 758 Berkeley, CA	Prerequisites  RNG Reporter o Note to Mac Users: This software works under Windows and Linux. PPRNG is the Mac equivalent of the 5th Generation RNG Reporter. Use it instead.  A clock with a clear Seconds reading.  DS Original or DS Lite o DSi series and 3DS are only able to abuse IVs with the C-Gear method It's in the first page of the guide I've posted on the past two + pages...

Apr 26th, 2011, 2:26:13 AM	#5171
Reaga Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 158	Woohoo, back to C-gear for my first Entralink RNG. So I hit my seed as I used to (or pray I did), enter Entralink immediately, then RNG by steps? And if I remember correct, gotta be frame 3 or higher.

Apr 26th, 2011, 3:21:07 AM	#5173
firestorm xl Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 430	what does the star by a place in the encounter slots mean? __________________ White Friendcode:3053-6810-6674 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3480154<---- New trade thread.

Apr 26th, 2011, 3:22:35 AM	#5174
Reaga Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 158	I was afraid of that. I managed to retrieve the female nidoran from the other day, and figured RNGing the new Nidoking would be easier if both parents had a bunch of 31s. I know my current Nidoking has excellent IVs, not perfect but pretty close. Figured if the other parent did everything nicely, the child would get the perfection