5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[Chaos Element: X]

Originally Posted by Fat Percussionist

You said that the IVs should remain the same, and they didn't. Why?

Have you ever hit the seed that you wanted? I mean, did you get a Zekrom with [probably] the correct IVs but wrong nature? If so, then you're RNGing correctly - it's just, a parameter called "timer0" is fluctuating... for example - for me, timer0 is usually C7C, but at times C7B interferes with my RNGing. Just keep trying and you'll get the correct timer0 for your seed... albeit, not 100% of the time.

In that case, if you know you're RNGing correctly and occasionally get the IVs you want, but the wrong nature, then remember to save before talking to Zekrom - that'll advance the frame from the RNG controlling natures (PID). If, with one save, it's still the wrong nature (whenever you get the Zekrom with the proper IVs), then RNG again, but save twice - keep adding on saves until you get the right nature with the right IVs. It's a matter of guessing and checking... and well, the fluctuating timer0 will sometimes cause you to get the wrong IVs... You just have to keep trying.

I should tell you, though, that there IS a way to control the PIDRNG... it's actually pretty easy, so you don't have to resort to guessing & checking, and adding on one save each time you RNG... View the bearfans video in post 3 of this thread.

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat BI0QUAKE

The only method 5 tabs I see are: "Standard Seed", "C-gear Seed", and "natures Theoretical"

Sounds like you're using an outdated version. Natures haven't been theoretical since the early beta stages.

[BI0QUAKE]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Sounds like you're using an outdated version. Natures haven't been theoretical since the early beta stages.

Oh! hrmm...... that would explain alot.... Thanks! So the updated version is the one in the 1st post of this thread?

[Zandock]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Will it ever be possible to search more than one month at a time? Especially when looking for shiny seeds, it would be a lot easier to search a large range at once than to have to manually input a new month every 15 seconds.

Fifteen seconds? It takes me over an hour to search a full month with three keypresses.

[BI0QUAKE]

Thanks for the info about the updated version! So I've gotten the Method 5 PIDRNG up and I've discovered what encounter slot the karrablast is on, so how do you advance this frame?

[Toast++]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Will it ever be possible to search more than one month at a time? Especially when looking for shiny seeds, it would be a lot easier to search a large range at once than to have to manually input a new month every 15 seconds.

Originally Posted by Fat Zandock

Fifteen seconds? It takes me over an hour to search a full month with three keypresses.

Yeah.. if it only takes 15 seconds, you're doing something horridly wrong. I'm running a beastly machine with 8 threads and it's still taking much longer than that claim. The reason you can't search multiple months is that it takes the average computer 1 to 2 hours to perform that search. For that reason, you won't ever see a version that allows you to search more than one month at a time. If anything, the increments would need to be made smaller so that computers can handle it. The search often maxes out the CPU (90-95%) for that length of time. Without a good cooling system, that can easily fry your processor. In fact, I think OD should probably put a warning on there somewhere even though the GNU Licence explicitly holds the creators as not responsible for any issues caused by the software.

[Winters Zombie]

Originally Posted by Fat ToastPlusOne

Yeah.. if it only takes 15 seconds, you're doing something horridly wrong. I'm running a beastly machine with 8 threads and it's still taking much longer than that claim. The reason you can't search multiple months is that it takes the average computer 1 to 2 hours to perform that search. For that reason, you won't ever see a version that allows you to search more than one month at a time. If anything, the increments would need to be made smaller so that computers can handle it. The search often maxes out the CPU (90-95%) for that length of time. Without a good cooling system, that can easily fry your processor. In fact, I think OD should probably put a warning on there somewhere even though the GNU Licence explicitly holds the creators as not responsible for any issues caused by the software.

He might be doing no keypress combo, in which mine gets done in about 15-25 seconds. As for 1 Keypress combo does indeed take a long while, I usually watch an anime and it's done. So anywhere from 15-20 mins. I don't really want to imagine what a 3 keypress combo will take xD!

[voodoo pimp]

I'm searching with no keypresses (I've never been able to hit them properly, so I find it easier to just not use them); maybe that has something to do with it?

Anyway, having the option to search lengths of time other than a single month seems like it would be a good feature, both for lower-end computers that might have trouble with it and for higher-end computers that can handle the sustained activity.

[MMX]

What does it mean when I get a shiny spread with a bolded nature?

[Zandock]

Originally Posted by Fat MeGaMaN X

What does it mean when I get a shiny spread with a bolded nature?

Synchronize frame. You can make that frame be any nature you want.

[MMX]

Originally Posted by Fat Zandock

Synchronize frame. You can make that frame be any nature you want.

What about breeding?

[Elemt]

Breeding is a different PID. You can syncronize like 60% of the PID frames with an everstone on either parent.

[xxwerdxx]

Originally Posted by Fat Elemt

Breeding is a different PID. You can syncronize like 60% of the PID frames with an everstone on either parent.

Everstone works on either parent in breeding now?

[MMX]

Is anyone else getting 600+ spreads when they search for 3 keypress combos?

[xxwerdxx]

A quick question about key combos. When exactly do you start to hold the buttons down that it says, and when do you let go? I have only done rngs that require no buttons to be held.

[firestorm xl]

if i want good shiny spreads for RNGing wild pokemon should i use key presses? the seeds i find shiny for no keypresses mostly suck lol. let me know if i need to add more info

[Bizzo]

Ok I've finally decided to go RNG my Thundurus and I just found a seed that gives 31/30/30/31/31/31 on frame 11.
It also gives me a shiny Thundurus with Timid Nature on PID frame 163. :D
Now im not sure if this is correct but I assume so if I advance the iv frame by walking 256 steps with 5 pokemon in my party, the PID frame won't advance (not counting stupid NPCs) since im not walaking in the grass right?

Also where do I start walking? I'd assume it to be just outside the house where the old woman is. Also will the weather effects mess with my PIDRNG

[Zandock]

Originally Posted by Fat xxwerdxx

A quick question about key combos. When exactly do you start to hold the buttons down that it says, and when do you let go? I have only done rngs that require no buttons to be held.

Hold the buttons immediately after pressing A to start the game. I hold them until the comet appears on screen and it works fine for me.

Originally Posted by Fat firestorm xl

if i want good shiny spreads for RNGing wild pokemon should i use key presses? the seeds i find shiny for no keypresses mostly suck lol. let me know if i need to add more info

More keypresses means a lot more available seeds.

Originally Posted by Fat Bizzo

Ok I've finally decided to go RNG my Thundurus and I just found a seed that gives 31/30/30/31/31/31 on frame 11.
It also gives me a shiny Thundurus with Timid Nature on PID frame 163. :D
Now im not sure if this is correct but I assume so if I advance the iv frame by walking 256 steps with 5 pokemon in my party, the PID frame won't advance (not counting stupid NPCs) since im not walaking in the grass right?

Also where do I start walking? I'd assume it to be just outside the house where the old woman is. Also will the weather effects mess with my PIDRNG

You want to save inside the house and do all your advancements inside. Walking in there won't advance your PID frame. The weather during the event will give you a starting PID way over 163, though.

[Bizzo]

Damm so I won't be able to hit that PID frame then?

[MMX]

When breeding, is it possible to hit a shiny frame of 44, 46, or 48.

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat Bizzo

Damm so I won't be able to hit that PID frame then?

I think the minimum frame for it is something like 1000. It's going to be ridiculously difficult regardless (third post says it's the most difficult of all).

Originally Posted by Fat MeGaMaN X

When breeding, is it possible to hit a shiny frame of 44, 46, or 48.

Possible, but unlikely. The starting PID range is 40-60, so it's going to start higher than that more often than not.

[firestorm xl]

really? wow i never knew that lol thats interesting to find out. so if i found my parameters without keypresses i can do seeds with keypresses correct?

[voodoo pimp]

Originally Posted by Fat firestorm xl

really? wow i never knew that lol thats interesting to find out.

It makes sense if you think about it. One keypress gives you 12 options, compared to one for no presses. Two keypresses make another 66 combinations, and three are a further 220 if I did the math correctly. Assuming all are equally likely, that comes out to 299 different possible combinations of keys. So yeah, you'll get a lot.

[Kaphotics]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

It makes sense if you think about it. One keypress gives you 12 options, compared to one for no presses. Two keypresses make another 66 combinations, and three are a further 220 if I did the math correctly. Assuming all are equally likely, that comes out to 299 different possible combinations of keys. So yeah, you'll get a lot.

You can go even deeper with theoretical keypresses (beyond complex) :)

in the research thread you can combine the 3 keypress modifying groups to get liek 1000+ combinations. But nobody wants 5 button keypresses.

[MMX]

Seed: 5D8001820DFE9BA7
Date: 5/14/2011
Time: 6:21:16
Keypress: Select+Right+R
Shiny Frame: 209
IVs: 2/28/2/30/31/30
Everstone: Calm
Inheritance: Ma / Fe / x / Fe / x / x

Foongus: 4/30/22/30/31/1
Ditto: 31/30/31/30/31/30

How do I start finding the PID frame for eggs?