Charizard (Analysis) - Page 2

Banryu · Dec 14th, 2010, 10:39:13 PM

Is it true what I'm hearing that the Dream World Kanto starters are all male, and thus unable to breed their abilities? If this is the case (I'm not sure that it is, but someone should check it) then Dragon Pulse needs to be removed from all Solar Power sets, as it is no longer a TM and is only available to 5th Gen Charizard via breeding. :0

Venser · Dec 17th, 2010, 12:39:47 AM

I believe that the current stance is "maybe one in a batrillion is female" but I'm unsure of this. Until I get confirmation from a mod I'll be leaving it as-is.

Venser · Jan 20th, 2011, 1:55:30 PM

Okay so i fixed everything with regards to illegal moves.

Neto-senpai · Jan 20th, 2011, 2:12:17 PM

How about Wide Lens as an alternative item for the sunny day abuse set?
Since 3/4 moves have imperfect accuracy, giving fire blast an acceptable 93.5%, air slash an 104.5% and 77% to focus blast which isn't much but gets more accurate than WoW.
I think it might be worth it.

**capefeather** · Jan 20th, 2011, 2:31:20 PM

I just wanted to point out that even Flamethrower hits Blissey harder than Focus Blast does in the sun.

EDIT: Wait, no, how did I screw that up? Solar Power boosts both attacks -.-

Venser · Jan 30th, 2011, 2:21:41 PM

Fixed title/bump.

AasTmO · Feb 4th, 2011, 5:00:45 AM

If I were you, I'd stress rapid spin more. Stealth Rock + Solar Power = LOL. This makes pretty much everything able to outstall it, if it can take a hit, and anything faster will kill it, as it only needs to hit 40% to get the kill.

Venser · Feb 4th, 2011, 8:44:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat AasTmO

If I were you, I'd stress rapid spin more. Stealth Rock + Solar Power = LOL. This makes pretty much everything able to outstall it, if it can take a hit, and anything faster will kill it, as it only needs to hit 40% to get the kill.

Added.

Also @ capefeather: I was pretty confused, lol. thanks for clearing that up.

Venser · Feb 7th, 2011, 9:34:39 PM

This is a bump, added a little bit of info.

Venser · Feb 12th, 2011, 9:20:53 PM

Bumping.

Charmander · Feb 12th, 2011, 9:23:10 PM

I think Sunny Day should get a mention on the sun set in case one doesn't have room for Ninetales or isn't running sun on their whole team.

Venser · Feb 12th, 2011, 9:31:33 PM

Why on earth would you do that. honestly, sun charizard shouldn't really be used without a ninetails but i'll add a mention.

Bad Ass · Feb 12th, 2011, 9:31:45 PM

1) explain what Solar Power does
2) Approved.

***Bloo***** · Feb 12th, 2011, 9:32:07 PM

Been a while since my last post here. You've remedied everything since then, so I'll approve this for you!

QC APPROVED (2/3)

Venser · Feb 12th, 2011, 9:36:08 PM

Woah double approval, thanks guys!

***Iconic**** · Feb 12th, 2011, 11:29:24 PM

be sure to mention espeon as a partner, since there aren't many spinners that work well on sun teams

QC Approved 3/3

panamaxis · Feb 13th, 2011, 5:39:19 AM

Before we start grammar prosing can someone tell me in what situation you need to use Air Slash on the Sunny Day abuse set? Fire Blast already destroys the fighting types...seems to me like Dragon Pulse would be better in that slot to hit the dragons...

Venser · Feb 13th, 2011, 10:21:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat panamaxis

Before we start grammar prosing can someone tell me in what situation you need to use Air Slash on the Sunny Day abuse set? Fire Blast already destroys the fighting types...seems to me like Dragon Pulse would be better in that slot to hit the dragons...

Dragon Pulse is illegal with Solar Power.

panamaxis · Feb 13th, 2011, 10:08:49 PM

my bad X(

***Bloo***** · Apr 21st, 2011, 5:06:29 PM

Venser, how's this coming along? It's been fully QC approved for a while now, so I'd like to see some updates; you've had more than enough time to write this analysis. I'll be taking this away under inactivity otherwise, assuming you aren't working on it.

Venser · Apr 21st, 2011, 5:09:21 PM

My plan is to finish it over this weekend. I can try to have it written up tomorrow, if that's all right.

***Bloo***** · May 4th, 2011, 4:33:37 PM

Ok, you said you'd have this done a while ago, but I don't see any updates. We all get busy at times, but I'd say you've had ample amounts of time to finish this, so I'll be locking this under inactivity.

Dec 14th, 2010, 10:39:13 PM	#26
Banryu Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,506	Is it true what I'm hearing that the Dream World Kanto starters are all male, and thus unable to breed their abilities? If this is the case (I'm not sure that it is, but someone should check it) then Dragon Pulse needs to be removed from all Solar Power sets, as it is no longer a TM and is only available to 5th Gen Charizard via breeding. :0 __________________ ~ -=ASB Trainer Profile=- ~ Winning like Charlie Sheen

Dec 17th, 2010, 12:39:47 AM	#27
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,591 #capasb	I believe that the current stance is "maybe one in a batrillion is female" but I'm unsure of this. Until I get confirmation from a mod I'll be leaving it as-is. __________________ last.fm

Jan 20th, 2011, 1:55:30 PM	#28
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,591 #capasb	Okay so i fixed everything with regards to illegal moves. __________________ last.fm

Jan 20th, 2011, 2:12:17 PM	#29
Neto-senpai Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 112	How about Wide Lens as an alternative item for the sunny day abuse set? Since 3/4 moves have imperfect accuracy, giving fire blast an acceptable 93.5%, air slash an 104.5% and 77% to focus blast which isn't much but gets more accurate than WoW. I think it might be worth it. __________________

Jan 20th, 2011, 2:31:20 PM	#30
capefeather hey, even pirates need attorneys Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,603 especially internet pirates	I just wanted to point out that even Flamethrower hits Blissey harder than Focus Blast does in the sun. EDIT: Wait, no, how did I screw that up? Solar Power boosts both attacks -.- __________________ If we cannot take joy in things that are merely real, our lives will always be empty. <+joshe> im a registered sex offender for up to calc 3 <+Reflect_Suicune> i was thining of fucking jellicent for some reason <DetroitLolcat> I AM AROUSED BY BIMETALLIC CURRENCY! Last edited by capefeather; Feb 4th, 2011 at 10:30:57 AM.

Jan 30th, 2011, 2:21:41 PM	#31
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,591 #capasb	Fixed title/bump. __________________ last.fm

Feb 4th, 2011, 5:00:45 AM	#32
AasTmO Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 155	If I were you, I'd stress rapid spin more. Stealth Rock + Solar Power = LOL. This makes pretty much everything able to outstall it, if it can take a hit, and anything faster will kill it, as it only needs to hit 40% to get the kill.

Feb 7th, 2011, 9:34:39 PM	#34
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,591 #capasb	This is a bump, added a little bit of info. __________________ last.fm

Feb 12th, 2011, 9:20:53 PM	#35
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,591 #capasb	Bumping. __________________ last.fm

Feb 12th, 2011, 9:23:10 PM	#36
Charmander Mission Complete Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,690 Great Falls, VA Mentor	I think Sunny Day should get a mention on the sun set in case one doesn't have room for Ninetales or isn't running sun on their whole team. __________________

Feb 12th, 2011, 9:31:33 PM	#37
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,591 #capasb	Why on earth would you do that. honestly, sun charizard shouldn't really be used without a ninetails but i'll add a mention. __________________ last.fm

Feb 12th, 2011, 9:31:45 PM	#38
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Feb 12th, 2011, 9:32:07 PM	#39
*Bloo* mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix Administrator** Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,455 Mentor	Been a while since my last post here. You've remedied everything since then, so I'll approve this for you! QC APPROVED (2/3)

Feb 12th, 2011, 9:36:08 PM	#40
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,591 #capasb	Woah double approval, thanks guys! __________________ last.fm

Feb 12th, 2011, 11:29:24 PM	#41
*Iconic Super Moderator** Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,784 Canadaland Mentor	be sure to mention espeon as a partner, since there aren't many spinners that work well on sun teams QC Approved 3/3 __________________ ◠‿◠

Feb 13th, 2011, 5:39:19 AM	#42
panamaxis Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,694	Before we start grammar prosing can someone tell me in what situation you need to use Air Slash on the Sunny Day abuse set? Fire Blast already destroys the fighting types...seems to me like Dragon Pulse would be better in that slot to hit the dragons... __________________ <am> shes p. hot not gonna lie <am> kinda reminds me of my mum fsr ------------------------------------- <am> if its for money its not gay

Feb 13th, 2011, 10:08:49 PM	#44
panamaxis Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,694	my bad X( __________________ <am> shes p. hot not gonna lie <am> kinda reminds me of my mum fsr ------------------------------------- <am> if its for money its not gay

Apr 21st, 2011, 5:06:29 PM	#45
*Bloo* mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix Administrator** Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,455 Mentor	Venser, how's this coming along? It's been fully QC approved for a while now, so I'd like to see some updates; you've had more than enough time to write this analysis. I'll be taking this away under inactivity otherwise, assuming you aren't working on it.

Apr 21st, 2011, 5:09:21 PM	#46
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,591 #capasb	My plan is to finish it over this weekend. I can try to have it written up tomorrow, if that's all right. __________________ last.fm

May 4th, 2011, 4:33:37 PM	#47
*Bloo* mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix Administrator** Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,455 Mentor	Ok, you said you'd have this done a while ago, but I don't see any updates. We all get busy at times, but I'd say you've had ample amounts of time to finish this, so I'll be locking this under inactivity.