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Be good to provide logs, bro.
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Why is the first set named Calm Mind when Calm Mind has a slash next to it?
I'd suggest the set look more like this: [SET] name: Special Attacker move 1: Psycho Break move 2: Aura Sphere move 3: Fire Blast / Flamethrower move 4: Calm Mind / Ice Beam item: Life Orb evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe nature: Timid Having slashes toward the bottom makes more sense, and also looks nicer aesthetically.
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Be sure to give a mention to unnerve as its ability. It removes the threat of your opponent activating a resist type berry like Chople berry on t-tar.
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Whatever happened to Classic Bulk up Mewtwo?
Name: Buff Mewtwo Nature:Adamant/Jolly Move 1: Bulk Up Move 2: Psycho Cut Move 3:Brick Break/Focus Punch Move 4: Recover Item: Life Orb Evs: 252 Attk/252 Spe/4 hp This Mewtwo makes an amazing late game cleaner after taking out your opponents revengers. Its Very unpredictable and Attack is Base 110 which is still really good. shows Mewtwo's versatility and unpredictability. It also makes Mewtwo harder to kill and is really good for clean up jobs. Brick break is more reliable but Focus punch can Destroy the inevitable Darkrai switch in. although i prefer brick break because it cleans up pokemon better, as you can use it for the 2HKO where if you focus punch its a one trick pony, as soon as your opponent sees it, they arent gonna give you the oppourtunity to focus punch again. |
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In the original post, I'd suggest removing the comment on Shadow Ball hitting neutrally on Metagross and Jirachi since Aura Sphere does more damage to them.
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Mainly because Psystrike Mewtwo can wall break basically the same way without decreasing it's special attack is why that set is obsolete. Also, what do you mean "Harder to kill?" If it is harder to kill on the physical side with Giratina's Shadow Sneak? Palkia's Spacial Rend would still do over half to that Mewtwo if that Mewtwo still had 354/216/216 defenses.
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Giratina-O can just Draco Meteor you instead of sneaking and Draco Meteor + Shadow Sneak is an OHKO. Not worth using, Mewtwo shouldn't use physical sets when you can just abuse Psystrike. Psystrike is a major upgrade for Mewtwo and using his inferior attack stat to sweep is just horrible. Giratina can just burn and cripple you which is all it needs. Lugia walls you completely, with Reflect, Pressure and Roost.
Bulk Up Mewtwo is too gimmicky and it just opens you to revenge kills from the likes of Scarf Palkia, Dialga and Kyogre easier. With Calm Mind you can survive one hit barr Scarf Water Spout, but with Bulk Up, you can be OHKOed after Stealth Rock.
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The only thing that Bulk Up saves Mewtwo from being killed by is Ho-Oh, and quite frankly, it'll just go ahead and burn you with Sacred Fire and laugh its head off.
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Bulk-up Mewtwo is fun though as it will definitely surprise you opponent when you drop down Psycho cut...
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Battle between Funkytown and calze6 started! Tier: BW Uber Rule: Unrated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Freeze Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle calze6 sent out Kyogre! Funkytown sent out Kyogre! Kyogre's Drizzle made it rain! Start of turn 1 Funkytown called Kyogre back! Funkytown sent out Groudon! The foe's Groudon's Drought intensified the sun's rays! Kyogre used Thunder! It had no effect! The sunlight is strong! Start of turn 2 calze6 called Kyogre back! calze6 sent out Nattorei! (Ferrothorn) Funkytown called Groudon back! Funkytown sent out Jirachi! The sunlight is strong! Start of turn 3 Funkytown called Jirachi back! Funkytown sent out Ho-Oh! The foe's Ho-Oh is exerting its Pressure! Nattorei used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around Funkytown's team! The sunlight is strong! Start of turn 4 calze6 called Nattorei back! calze6 sent out Kyogre! Kyogre's Drizzle made it rain! The foe's Ho-Oh used Substitute! The foe's Ho-Oh made a substitute! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Ho-Oh restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 5 Kyogre used Surf! It's super effective! The foe's Ho-Oh's substitute faded! The foe's Ho-Oh used Brave Bird! A critical hit! Kyogre lost 342 HP! (100% of its health) The foe's Ho-Oh is hit with recoil! Kyogre fainted! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Ho-Oh restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6 sent out Kingdra! Start of turn 6 Funkytown called Ho-Oh back! Funkytown sent out Groudon! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Groudon! The foe's Groudon's Drought intensified the sun's rays! Kingdra used Waterfall! It's super effective! The foe's Groudon lost 27% of its health! Kingdra is hurt by its Life Orb! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 7 calze6 called Kingdra back! calze6 sent out Arceus-Groun! (Arceus-Ground) The foe's Groudon used Thunder Wave! But it failed! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 8 Funkytown called Groudon back! Funkytown sent out Shaymin-S! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Shaymin-S! Arceus-Groun used Swords Dance! Arceus-Groun's Attack sharply rose! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 9 calze6 called Arceus-Groun back! calze6 sent out Mewtwo! Mewtwo is exerting its Pressure! The foe's Shaymin-S used Seed Flare! Mewtwo lost 222 HP! (62% of its health) The sunlight is strong! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6: I'm screwed Start of turn 10 Funkytown called Shaymin-S back! Funkytown sent out Jirachi! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Jirachi! Mewtwo used Psystrike! It's not very effective... The foe's Jirachi lost 18% of its health! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 11 calze6 called Mewtwo back! calze6 sent out Arceus-Groun! (Arceus-Ground) The foe's Jirachi used Body Slam! Arceus-Groun lost 62 HP! (15% of its health) The sunlight is strong! The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 12 Funkytown called Jirachi back! Funkytown sent out Kyogre! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Kyogre! The foe's Kyogre's Drizzle made it rain! Arceus-Groun used Stone Edge! The attack of Arceus-Groun missed! Rain continues to fall! Funkytown: well... Funkytown: :P Start of turn 13 calze6 called Arceus-Groun back! calze6 sent out Nattorei! (Ferrothorn) The foe's Kyogre used Ice Beam! Nattorei lost 95 HP! (26% of its health) Rain continues to fall! Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6: I made terrible ho-oh switch in calze6: I totally forgot terrakion Funkytown: you got unlucky too tho Funkytown: true calze6: and I put it in for 1 calze6: arceus sd calze6: 2 ho-oh calze6: I'm furious with myself lol Start of turn 14 Funkytown called Kyogre back! Funkytown sent out Ho-Oh! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Ho-Oh! The foe's Ho-Oh is exerting its Pressure! Nattorei used Power Whip! It's not very effective... The foe's Ho-Oh lost 8% of its health! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Ho-Oh restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 15 The foe's Ho-Oh used Roost! The foe's Ho-Oh landed on the ground! The foe's Ho-Oh regained health! Nattorei used Leech Seed! The foe's Ho-Oh was seeded! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Ho-Oh restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Ho-Oh's health is sapped by leech seed. Funkytown: loæ Funkytown: *lol Start of turn 16 calze6 called Nattorei back! calze6 sent out Terakion! (Terrakion) The foe's Ho-Oh used Substitute! The foe's Ho-Oh made a substitute! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Ho-Oh restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Ho-Oh's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 17 Terakion used Stone Edge! It's super effective! The foe's Ho-Oh's substitute faded! The foe's Ho-Oh used Roost! The foe's Ho-Oh landed on the ground! The foe's Ho-Oh regained health! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Ho-Oh restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Ho-Oh's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 18 Funkytown called Ho-Oh back! Funkytown sent out Groudon! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Groudon! The foe's Groudon's Drought intensified the sun's rays! Terakion used Stone Edge! It's not very effective... The foe's Groudon lost 16% of its health! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 19 calze6 called Terakion back! calze6 sent out Nattorei! (Ferrothorn) The foe's Groudon used Earthquake! Nattorei lost 157 HP! (44% of its health) The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 20 The foe's Groudon used Thunder Wave! Nattorei is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! Nattorei used Gyro Ball! The foe's Groudon lost 28% of its health! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 21 The foe's Groudon used Earthquake! Nattorei lost 151 HP! (42% of its health) Nattorei is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6: omg Funkytown: ouch Start of turn 22 The foe's Groudon used Earthquake! Nattorei lost 110 HP! (31% of its health) Nattorei fainted! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6: save me the humiliation! calze6 sent out Arceus-Groun! (Arceus-Ground) calze6: or spare me Funkytown: oh btw, stallion made me a 'megauser' yesterday calze6: cool Funkytown: ie. tournament host calze6: yea calze6: I don't PO much anymore so it doesn't matter Funkytown: and said i could become a driver if i get a little more well known Funkytown: lol calze6: I practically only do rain calze6: driver? Funkytown: they can ban, kick, mute etc. Funkytown: kinda like a mod calze6: you can easily be like trickroom Funkytown: yeah like him Funkytown: :D calze6: you need to do analyses though Funkytown: true calze6: I reckon you 2 are probably best matched calze6: well maybe and jibaku Funkytown: yeah don't forget him Funkytown: :P Start of turn 23 Funkytown called Groudon back! Funkytown sent out Kyogre! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Kyogre! The foe's Kyogre's Drizzle made it rain! Arceus-Groun used Earthquake! The foe's Kyogre lost 50% of its health! Rain continues to fall! calze6: MAYBE eo Funkytown: never actually played him calze6: nor I Start of turn 24 Arceus-Groun used Stone Edge! A critical hit! The foe's Kyogre lost 24% of its health! The foe's Kyogre fainted! Rain continues to fall! Funkytown sent out Shaymin-S! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Shaymin-S! calze6: apparently he pretty good Start of turn 25 The foe's Shaymin-S used Substitute! The foe's Shaymin-S made a substitute! Arceus-Groun used Stone Edge! The attack of Arceus-Groun missed! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6: omg Funkytown: ouch calze6: haaaaaaaaaaaax Funkytown: that was why i subbed lol Funkytown: just in case calze6: lol Start of turn 26 The foe's Shaymin-S used Leech Seed! Arceus-Groun was seeded! Arceus-Groun used Stone Edge! It's super effective! The foe's Shaymin-S's substitute faded! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Arceus-Groun's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 27 The foe's Shaymin-S used Substitute! The foe's Shaymin-S made a substitute! Arceus-Groun used Stone Edge! It's super effective! The foe's Shaymin-S's substitute faded! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Arceus-Groun's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 28 The foe's Shaymin-S used Substitute! The foe's Shaymin-S made a substitute! Arceus-Groun used Stone Edge! It's super effective! The foe's Shaymin-S's substitute faded! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Arceus-Groun's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 29 calze6 called Arceus-Groun back! calze6 sent out Terakion! (Terrakion) The foe's Shaymin-S used Substitute! The foe's Shaymin-S made a substitute! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 30 Terakion used X-Scissor! The foe's Shaymin-S's substitute faded! The foe's Shaymin-S used Seed Flare! The attack of the foe's Shaymin-S missed! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Funkytown: ouch calze6: lol payback Start of turn 31 Funkytown called Shaymin-S back! Funkytown sent out Jirachi! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Jirachi! Terakion used X-Scissor! The foe's Jirachi lost 21% of its health! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 32 calze6 called Terakion back! calze6 sent out Arceus-Groun! (Arceus-Ground) The foe's Jirachi used Body Slam! Arceus-Groun lost 61 HP! (15% of its health) Rain continues to fall! The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 33 Funkytown called Jirachi back! Funkytown sent out Arceus-Drago! (Arceus-Ghost) Pointed stones dug into the foe's Arceus-Drago! Arceus-Groun used Earthquake! The foe's Arceus-Drago lost 37% of its health! Rain continues to fall! calze6: not that bullcrap Start of turn 34 Arceus-Groun used Earthquake! The foe's Arceus-Drago lost 36% of its health! The foe's Arceus-Drago used Judgment! Arceus-Groun lost 128 HP! (31% of its health) Arceus-Groun fainted! Rain continues to fall! calze6 sent out Mewtwo! Mewtwo is exerting its Pressure! Start of turn 35 Funkytown called Arceus-Drago back! Funkytown sent out Jirachi! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Jirachi! Mewtwo used Psystrike! It's not very effective... A critical hit! The foe's Jirachi lost 39% of its health! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 36 calze6 called Mewtwo back! calze6 sent out Kingdra! The foe's Jirachi used Thunder Wave! Kingdra is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! Rain continues to fall! The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 37 Funkytown called Jirachi back! Funkytown sent out Groudon! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Groudon! The foe's Groudon's Drought intensified the sun's rays! Kingdra used Waterfall! It's super effective! The foe's Groudon lost 28% of its health! Kingdra is hurt by its Life Orb! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 38 The foe's Groudon used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around calze6's team! Kingdra is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6: omg Start of turn 39 Funkytown called Groudon back! Funkytown sent out Shaymin-S! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Shaymin-S! Kingdra is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6: OMG Start of turn 40 The foe's Shaymin-S used Air Slash! Kingdra lost 123 HP! (42% of its health) Kingdra flinched! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 41 The foe's Shaymin-S used Substitute! The foe's Shaymin-S made a substitute! Kingdra used Outrage! The foe's Shaymin-S's substitute faded! Kingdra is hurt by its Life Orb! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Shaymin-S restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 42 Funkytown called Shaymin-S back! Funkytown sent out Jirachi! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Jirachi! Kingdra used Outrage! It's not very effective... The foe's Jirachi lost 30% of its health! Kingdra is hurt by its Life Orb! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6: OUTRAGE Start of turn 43 The foe's Jirachi used Iron Head! It's not very effective... Kingdra lost 52 HP! (17% of its health) Kingdra fainted! The sunlight is strong! The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers! calze6 sent out Mewtwo! Pointed stones dug into Mewtwo! Mewtwo is exerting its Pressure! Start of turn 44 Mewtwo used Psystrike! It's not very effective... The foe's Jirachi lost 13% of its health! The foe's Jirachi fainted! The sunlight is strong! Funkytown: uh oh calze6: I win? calze6: oooh Funkytown: lol maybe Funkytown sent out Groudon! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Groudon! calze6: groudon Start of turn 45 Mewtwo used Psystrike! The foe's Groudon lost 30% of its health! The foe's Groudon fainted! The sunlight is strong! calze6: YES Funkytown sent out Arceus-Drago! (Arceus-Ghost) Pointed stones dug into the foe's Arceus-Drago! Funkytown: lol gg Start of turn 46 Mewtwo used Psystrike! The foe's Arceus-Drago lost 1% of its health! The foe's Arceus-Drago fainted! The sunlight is strong! calze6: warstory much Funkytown sent out Ho-Oh! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Ho-Oh! The foe's Ho-Oh is exerting its Pressure! Class of '01 is watching the battle. Funkytown: sure if you want calze6: cant be stuffed Funkytown: not that much prediction Funkytown: lol Start of turn 47 Mewtwo used Psystrike! The foe's Ho-Oh lost 14% of its health! The foe's Ho-Oh fainted! The sunlight is strong! calze6: too much hax Funkytown sent out Shaymin-S! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Shaymin-S! The foe's Shaymin-S fainted! calze6 won the battle! calze6: Again, I prove my superiority towards you. Funkytown: GG! TEEHEE Funkytown: mhm
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Specs Mewtwo hits very hard and cannot be walled by Chansey or Blissey due to Psytrike. That's something no other Choice Specs user can boast about. Specs Kyogre is still harassed by Chansey because Water Spout isn't a guaranteed 2HKO even at full power.
I think you can provide more good logs and drcossack can retest it. Choiced Mewtwo sets have major drawbacks though. Instead of hitting hard, why not Calm Mind up and rip things to shreds. Nothing stops Calm Mind Mewtwo completely. Choice Specs Mewtwo on the other hand has more checks because Mewtwo isn't versatile anymore when holding a choice item. |
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I agree with you Trickroom, CM Mewtwo is quite good this gen. I tested several variants and all of them did fine. Those ones do especially well with sub. I think cossack should test it and consider adding it.
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In that battle log shown, LO Mewtwo would have died because of the recoil. It isn't strong enough to comfortably 2HKO chansey and and arceus so it can avoid CM stall wars and toxic stall.
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Again, the Psycho Killer is just so good that it eclipses everything else, but that doesn't mean other sets aren't worth testing.
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OK, sorry for bumping this but I think Psychic Arceus deserves a mention as a decent check. In fact thats one of the main reason you'd use it in Ubers. Nothing Mewtwo carries can OHKO Psychic Arceus while Mewtwo dies to a combination of Payback+ES. This was listed as a check by trickroom as well.
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Talked to drcossack. Will be adding the GP changes and asking for another GP. Expect a new thread soon.
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