Rarely Used (RU) Tier - Page 2

Nonary Game · Jun 5th, 2011, 1:56:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

Snover has a monopoly on weather, and most of the Blizzard spammers are down here. Hail and Baton Pass are gonna have a field day on this. QuiverPass, SmashPass and Hail are gonna be very common, period.

Forgetting about Hippopotas?

In any case, passing tactics seem to be what'll dominate here, what with Gorebyss in OU being a good example of how good this is?

TheFourthChaser · Jun 5th, 2011, 2:01:28 PM

We're really doing this....

spweasel · Jun 5th, 2011, 2:05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Demo-Kun

Forgetting about Hippopotas?

It's in UU. Check the first post.

SlimMan · Jun 5th, 2011, 2:16:46 PM

Snover.
Gorebyss+Huntail.
AAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

Seriously though, thank you R_D! I am so going to love this tier once it's developed (I'm already liking it now :D).

Time to go abuse Yanmega and Sharpedo on a team! Or should I go for double-Quiver Dance-Pass with Venemoth and (lol) Masquerain? So many choices...

TickingSeedotBomb · Jun 5th, 2011, 2:21:24 PM

Oh gosh!! SmashPassing and QuiverPasses... I'm going to NEED a hazer. I also might run scarf Vital Spirit E-vire just to take Venomoth's Sleep Powder and then hit it with a fire punch.

Cheapoman · Jun 5th, 2011, 2:21:24 PM

Seems pretty cool. Might be pretty effective in the long run.

Gerard · Jun 5th, 2011, 2:35:24 PM

Stall seems like it's gonna have some great merits, since it counters all of the SmashPass, and QuiverPass strategies (bar ingrain smeargle) whit little help (since both Xatu and Espeon are UU)

**Raseri** · Jun 5th, 2011, 2:38:07 PM

This tier is so fun right now, with everyone experimenting. Archeops is amazing if you can keep rocks off the field, I could see this being quite a diverse tier with so many viable options

SP458 · Jun 5th, 2011, 2:42:58 PM

Great, a new tier!
I might go there the next week to try a new Hail BP team with Snover and Gorebyss...

SlimMan · Jun 5th, 2011, 3:02:47 PM

After a little while on the ladder, I'd like to say that Bulky Waters who have recovery are absolutely wonderful in this metagame (except Pelipper and Swanna, they will never stop sucking).
That leaves us with Slowking, Gastrodon, and Alomomola. I know it's too early to be making assumptions about the metagame, but I can see them being premier tanks or walls for RU.

DC. · Jun 5th, 2011, 3:13:36 PM

Let us get it cobalion

Edit: i see it now nvm

Himanattsu · Jun 5th, 2011, 3:46:30 PM

What could possibly go wrong?

**Pocket** · Jun 5th, 2011, 3:48:05 PM

Correct me if I am wrong - RU is basically the UU of UU tier?

Dwarfspider · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Pocket

Correct me if I am wrong - RU is basically the UU of UU tier?

its basically how nu was it the 4th gen, whatever did not make the UU cut. However whats important here is that it will be supported on the official smogon servers and in a month when we have usage stats and suspect tests there will be an additional tier made, NU.

Himanattsu · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:14:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat SlimMan

After a little while on the ladder, I'd like to say that Bulky Waters who have recovery are absolutely wonderful in this metagame (except Pelipper and Swanna, they will never stop sucking).
That leaves us with Slowking, Gastrodon, and Alomomola. I know it's too early to be making assumptions about the metagame, but I can see them being premier tanks or walls for RU.

And Rotom-C could set up on those bulky waters, since it 4x resists it?

Just a thought.

**Pocket** · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:14:40 PM

Thanks, Dwarfspider! So RU will eventually become NU on the Smogon Server?

DetroitLolcat · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:16:30 PM

No, I think there will be another tier below RU called NU, which will be the old favorite fail tier.

(or maybe there should be a RRU called Really Rarely Used in between)

rampage529 · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:21:22 PM

Why was there no Cresselia or Umbreon on that list? Those two are going to be a pain in RU.

Avira · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:21:50 PM

I hope testing for this doesn't begin immediately. I think more focus should be made on UU first to get it somewhat balanced befoer beginning on RU testing.

sax king · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:30:44 PM

gallade, yanmega, porygon-z, honchkrow and cresselia? what happened to you guys?

also, looking forward to sweeping madness with both sharpedo and yanmega

Bruxa Baratuxa · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:31:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Blue_Star

Lol, I don't think it was a good idea to make this tier now, considering UU is still a mess, but ok.

qft

Plus, i think it's better define NU tier instead of do this new tier.

NijaSkills · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:34:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Txucarramãe

qft

Plus, i think it's better define NU tier instead of do this new tier.

The only difference that there would have been between this and NU if they had done it now is the name. This just leaves it open to create NU below this next month, but for all instances, is the same thing as NU was in gen 4.

Togelover · Jun 5th, 2011, 4:47:05 PM

This seems interesting...

Nezumi-chu · Jun 5th, 2011, 5:03:48 PM

This looks like a great idea!

Granted, I haven't played very much competitive battling this year yet (too much schoolwork, argh!), and I've never been much of an expert at it or anything, but...

1. It seems to me that there's so many pokemon not in Ubers/OU now that having three or more tiers under them may be the best idea to give a decent percentage of pokemon a chance to actually fight. Also...

2. If the last auto-weather-starter is in this tier, then that will leave NU with no auto-weather starters, giving people who don't want a metagame centered around weather a tier to play, whereas if Snover were simply placed in NU, that could potentially make all tiers' metagames be centered around some sort of weather or another.

Nonary Game · Jun 5th, 2011, 5:17:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat spweasel

It's in UU. Check the first post.

Yeah I misread apparently. I'm stupid.

I might hop on when I get some time. From what I've seen though, Venemoth just kills shit.

Jun 5th, 2011, 2:16:46 PM	#29
SlimMan Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,475 Caroline du Nord	Snover. Gorebyss+Huntail. AAAAAHHHHH!!!!! Seriously though, thank you R_D! I am so going to love this tier once it's developed (I'm already liking it now :D). Time to go abuse Yanmega and Sharpedo on a team! Or should I go for double-Quiver Dance-Pass with Venemoth and (lol) Masquerain? So many choices... __________________ Messidor

Jun 5th, 2011, 2:21:24 PM	#30
TickingSeedotBomb Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 236	Oh gosh!! SmashPassing and QuiverPasses... I'm going to NEED a hazer. I also might run scarf Vital Spirit E-vire just to take Venomoth's Sleep Powder and then hit it with a fire punch. __________________ Complete with gravy, stuffing, mash potatoes, sweet potatoes, cream corn, fruitcake, and mincemeat pie Favorite OU pokemon: Reuniclus. I don't care if Scizor shuts him down, he's still good. Peak on the NU tier: 14 / 1734 Favorite NU mon to use: Torterra

Jun 5th, 2011, 2:38:07 PM	#33
Raseri I'm a leaf on the wind; watch how i soar Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,704 Mentor	This tier is so fun right now, with everyone experimenting. Archeops is amazing if you can keep rocks off the field, I could see this being quite a diverse tier with so many viable options __________________ best Quality Control member 2012

Jun 5th, 2011, 3:02:47 PM	#35
SlimMan Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,475 Caroline du Nord	After a little while on the ladder, I'd like to say that Bulky Waters who have recovery are absolutely wonderful in this metagame (except Pelipper and Swanna, they will never stop sucking). That leaves us with Slowking, Gastrodon, and Alomomola. I know it's too early to be making assumptions about the metagame, but I can see them being premier tanks or walls for RU. __________________ Messidor

Jun 5th, 2011, 3:13:36 PM	#36
DC. Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 186 Lisbon, Portugal	Let us get it cobalion Edit: i see it now nvm __________________ Turn 25 Mienshao is being sent back! The foe's Tyranitar used Pursuit! It's not very effective... Mienshao lost 60% of its health! Mienshao fainted!

Jun 5th, 2011, 2:21:24 PM	#31
Cheapoman Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 153	Seems pretty cool. Might be pretty effective in the long run.

Jun 5th, 2011, 2:35:24 PM	#32
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,989 Mmm... Ice Cream!	Stall seems like it's gonna have some great merits, since it counters all of the SmashPass, and QuiverPass strategies (bar ingrain smeargle) whit little help (since both Xatu and Espeon are UU)

Jun 5th, 2011, 2:42:58 PM	#34
SP458 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 74 France	Great, a new tier! I might go there the next week to try a new Hail BP team with Snover and Gorebyss...

Jun 5th, 2011, 3:46:30 PM	#37
Himanattsu Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 216 East Coast	What could possibly go wrong?

Jun 5th, 2011, 3:48:05 PM	#38
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,168 Bergenfield	Correct me if I am wrong - RU is basically the UU of UU tier? __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Jun 5th, 2011, 4:14:40 PM	#41
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,168 Bergenfield	Thanks, Dwarfspider! So RU will eventually become NU on the Smogon Server? __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Jun 5th, 2011, 4:16:30 PM	#42
DetroitLolcat It's Great! To Be! A Michigan Wolverine! Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,795	No, I think there will be another tier below RU called NU, which will be the old favorite fail tier. (or maybe there should be a RRU called Really Rarely Used in between) __________________ Favorite Pokemon-Swampert- formerly OU and staying that way. Cats are awesome, the best kind of cat is the Detroit Lion! http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou11556879

Jun 5th, 2011, 4:21:22 PM	#43
rampage529 Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 7	Why was there no Cresselia or Umbreon on that list? Those two are going to be a pain in RU. __________________ SoulSilver FC: 2966 4310 4990 White FC: 1636 0441 0080 No Unreleased DW Abilities Legit Hacks

Jun 5th, 2011, 4:21:50 PM	#44
Avira Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 231	I hope testing for this doesn't begin immediately. I think more focus should be made on UU first to get it somewhat balanced befoer beginning on RU testing.

Jun 5th, 2011, 4:30:44 PM	#45
sax king Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 767 I'm not sick, but I'm not well	gallade, yanmega, porygon-z, honchkrow and cresselia? what happened to you guys? also, looking forward to sweeping madness with both sharpedo and yanmega __________________ The 90's were awesome

Jun 5th, 2011, 4:47:05 PM	#48
Togelover Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 73 Norway	This seems interesting... __________________ † I don't care what you believe in. †

Jun 5th, 2011, 5:03:48 PM	#49
Nezumi-chu Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2	This looks like a great idea! Granted, I haven't played very much competitive battling this year yet (too much schoolwork, argh!), and I've never been much of an expert at it or anything, but... 1. It seems to me that there's so many pokemon not in Ubers/OU now that having three or more tiers under them may be the best idea to give a decent percentage of pokemon a chance to actually fight. Also... 2. If the last auto-weather-starter is in this tier, then that will leave NU with no auto-weather starters, giving people who don't want a metagame centered around weather a tier to play, whereas if Snover were simply placed in NU, that could potentially make all tiers' metagames be centered around some sort of weather or another.