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Fireburn · Jun 25th, 2011, 2:13:04 PM

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Can we breed Dream World Abilities?
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CONFIRMED Breeding a Dream World female parent with any male parent (but not vice versa) has a chance of giving the offspring its respective Dream World Ability. It is unknown whether Ditto counts as the female for this purpose, and we won't know until DW Ditto is released. (Maverick Hunter, 0mastar\The Shadow Knight)

Can you use Giratina's and Shaymin's alternate formes over WiFi?
Yes.

Virizion · Jul 4th, 2011, 9:50:35 PM

I don't play Ubers much, so I wouldn't know this, but: Can you use both Giratina and Giratina-O on the same team, or does it violate the species clause since they have the same Pokédex number?

auramaster · Jul 5th, 2011, 1:12:42 AM

Tried it on PO, it changed Giratina-A to a Missingno. so no, you cannot have both on the same team.

TM13IceBeam · Jul 5th, 2011, 1:21:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Virizion

I don't play Ubers much, so I wouldn't know this, but: Can you use both Giratina and Giratina-O on the same team, or does it violate the species clause since they have the same Pokédex number?

Same reason why you can't run 6 Arceus of different types: violation of Species Clause.

Virizion · Jul 5th, 2011, 1:36:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

Same reason why you can't run 6 Arceus of different types: violation of Species Clause.

It's more comparable to Rotom + Rotom-A, as they have different stats and serve different roles. 6 Arceus aren't too different individually - the only viable sets are, IIRC, Extremekill/CM/tank sets depending on the type.

Moo · Jul 5th, 2011, 12:05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Virizion

It's more comparable to Rotom + Rotom-A, as they have different stats and serve different roles. 6 Arceus aren't too different individually - the only viable sets are, IIRC, Extremekill/CM/tank sets depending on the type.

Mix is good too

FunLovin · Jul 5th, 2011, 12:52:38 PM

Who would you guys say are the top 5 or so threats in the uber meta game that every team should have a counter to?

TM13IceBeam · Jul 5th, 2011, 12:55:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat FunLovin

Who would you guys say are the top 5 or so threats in the uber meta game that every team should have a counter to?

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:

Extremekiller Arceus
Scarf Kyogre
CM Arceus
RP Groudon
whatever Mewtwo

FunLovin · Jul 5th, 2011, 1:39:17 PM

Is that Scarf Kygore supposed to be a Specs Kygore? Or is scarf actually more deadly?

Also what freaking counters Mewtwo? >.>

Fireburn · Jul 5th, 2011, 1:42:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat FunLovin

Is that Scarf Kygore supposed to be a Specs Kygore? Or is scarf actually more deadly?

Also what freaking counters Mewtwo? >.>

Its not a question of what is more deadly as in what way they're deadly. ScarfOgre is a potent cleaner and revenge killer whereas SpecsOgre is a nuke.

Also, nothing really counters Mewtwo. Only real way to stop it is to revenge kill it.

TM13IceBeam · Jul 5th, 2011, 1:42:44 PM

Scarf Kyogre outspeeds a lot of things while still hitting hard with Water Spout. Specs Kyogre gets easily revenged by Scarf Zekrom...

As for Mewtwo, the main point is to just hit it with powerful Outrages.

FunLovin · Jul 5th, 2011, 3:57:11 PM

Cool :)

So what are some good Arceus forms other then the Killer?

Fireburn · Jul 5th, 2011, 3:59:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat FunLovin

Cool :)

So what are some good Arceus forms other then the Killer?

Pretty much every Arceus type can run a good CM set. Steel and Ghost are particularly good.

If you're looking for physical Arceus, SD Dragon, Ghost, and Ground are your best bets.

FunLovin · Jul 5th, 2011, 4:07:39 PM

Whats the best set for a Poison Arceus?

(sorry for so many questions lol I'm new at pokemon and I like learning)

Fireburn · Jul 5th, 2011, 4:09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat FunLovin

Whats the best set for a Poison Arceus?

(sorry for so many questions lol I'm new at pokemon and I want to get some basics down)

It's usually seen as a supporter, but its also a good user of Calm Mind since it can't be Poisoned.

You can get some more ideas here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3448377

FunLovin · Jul 5th, 2011, 4:15:51 PM

Thanks for all the help Fireburn :)

and you too IceBeam ;)

Harlock · Jul 6th, 2011, 12:38:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat FunLovin

Whats the best set for a Poison Arceus?

(sorry for so many questions lol I'm new at pokemon and I like learning)

So you decided to learn Ubers first? Awesome man!

I recommend reading everything here. http://www.smogon.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=149

Also, read this as well. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84947 It is a great article. Hope I helped.

FunLovin · Jul 6th, 2011, 4:18:17 AM

Thanks Har :)

I picked Ubers first because Mewtwo is my fave poke ^^

Mr_br_kill · Jul 6th, 2011, 8:35:11 AM

On a sun team, should I run fire blast over the standard ice beam or aura spere on a calm mind mewtwo. If yes whitch move should I drop?

TM13IceBeam · Jul 6th, 2011, 8:43:04 AM

Depends on your team, really. Seeing as most likely you are running Groudon, you SHOULD have a way of dealing with Dialga. In that case, drop Aura Sphere, since FB is still hitting Ferro harder in the rain.

Icey The King Of ice · Jul 6th, 2011, 10:57:43 AM

i like latias and im wondering if latias can still find a way to work in ubers or are there to many ice beams and dragons around were latias wouldnt survive in a uber battle

Virizion · Jul 6th, 2011, 10:59:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Icey The King Of ice

i like latias and im wondering if latias can still find a way to work in ubers or are there to many ice beams and dragons around were latias wouldnt survive in a uber battle

Latias is actually extremely useful in Ubers as a Kyogre counter, but only when it has Soul Dew as a held item. At the moment, Soul Dew is unreleased since it doesn't exist in Black/White version's coding, so Latias isn't as useful as it was in Gen IV.

Icey The King Of ice · Jul 6th, 2011, 11:03:43 AM

o i forgot about soul dew to bad it isnt out yet but thanx anyway

TM13IceBeam · Jul 6th, 2011, 11:08:06 AM

Actually, correction: Soul Dew is programmed into the game, but there is currently no legal method of obtaining it. Hence, it's put into the DW tier.

FunLovin · Jul 6th, 2011, 11:25:35 PM

Hey guys me again :P I was wondering if Jirachi would work well on a Uber Rain team?

If so whats a good build for her? I hate to ask but there isn't a finished Jirachi guide for Ubers :/

Jul 4th, 2011, 9:50:35 PM	#2
Virizion Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,459 Dearest Princess Celestia;	I don't play Ubers much, so I wouldn't know this, but: Can you use both Giratina and Giratina-O on the same team, or does it violate the species clause since they have the same Pokédex number? __________________ HACKED ONES ALLOWED. DON'T CHEAT!!!!!!

Jul 5th, 2011, 1:12:42 AM	#3
auramaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 764	Tried it on PO, it changed Giratina-A to a Missingno. so no, you cannot have both on the same team. __________________ † I trust Science, therefore I am a Christian † Proud host of three Mafia games.

Jul 5th, 2011, 1:42:44 PM	#11
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,248 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	Scarf Kyogre outspeeds a lot of things while still hitting hard with Water Spout. Specs Kyogre gets easily revenged by Scarf Zekrom... As for Mewtwo, the main point is to just hit it with powerful Outrages. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Jul 6th, 2011, 4:18:17 AM	#18
FunLovin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 53	Thanks Har :) I picked Ubers first because Mewtwo is my fave poke ^^ Last edited by FunLovin; Jul 6th, 2011 at 4:35:35 AM.

Jul 6th, 2011, 8:35:11 AM	#19
Mr_br_kill Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 228 The jets are back home in Winnipeg!	On a sun team, should I run fire blast over the standard ice beam or aura spere on a calm mind mewtwo. If yes whitch move should I drop? __________________ I will probbaly post all wifi battles I have to my YouTube account Mrbrkill. Pease check me out at http://www.youtube.com/user/Mrbrkill?feature=mhum, for everytime my videos are viewed, a puppy's born. If your interested in a wifi uber battle vm me Black fc: 3782 9616 0417

Jul 5th, 2011, 12:52:38 PM	#7
FunLovin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 53	Who would you guys say are the top 5 or so threats in the uber meta game that every team should have a counter to?

Jul 5th, 2011, 1:39:17 PM	#9
FunLovin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 53	Is that Scarf Kygore supposed to be a Specs Kygore? Or is scarf actually more deadly? Also what freaking counters Mewtwo? >.>

Jul 5th, 2011, 3:57:11 PM	#12
FunLovin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 53	Cool :) So what are some good Arceus forms other then the Killer?

Jul 5th, 2011, 4:07:39 PM	#14
FunLovin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 53	Whats the best set for a Poison Arceus? (sorry for so many questions lol I'm new at pokemon and I like learning)

Jul 5th, 2011, 4:15:51 PM	#16
FunLovin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 53	Thanks for all the help Fireburn :) and you too IceBeam ;)

Jul 6th, 2011, 8:43:04 AM	#20
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,248 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	Depends on your team, really. Seeing as most likely you are running Groudon, you SHOULD have a way of dealing with Dialga. In that case, drop Aura Sphere, since FB is still hitting Ferro harder in the rain. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Jul 6th, 2011, 10:57:43 AM	#21
Icey The King Of ice Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 55	i like latias and im wondering if latias can still find a way to work in ubers or are there to many ice beams and dragons around were latias wouldnt survive in a uber battle __________________ My Black fc is 0905 2961 4264

Jul 6th, 2011, 11:03:43 AM	#23
Icey The King Of ice Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 55	o i forgot about soul dew to bad it isnt out yet but thanx anyway __________________ My Black fc is 0905 2961 4264

Jul 6th, 2011, 11:08:06 AM	#24
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,248 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	Actually, correction: Soul Dew is programmed into the game, but there is currently no legal method of obtaining it. Hence, it's put into the DW tier. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Jul 6th, 2011, 11:25:35 PM	#25
FunLovin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 53	Hey guys me again :P I was wondering if Jirachi would work well on a Uber Rain team? If so whats a good build for her? I hate to ask but there isn't a finished Jirachi guide for Ubers :/