Latios

PungentFruit · Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:04:12 AM

HP: 80
Atk: 90
Def: 80
SAtk: 130
SDef: 110
Spe: 110

Abilities:
Levitate: Damage dealing Ground-type moves have no effect on this Pokémon. Cannot be trapped by Arena Trap ability. Takes no damage from Spikes.

Moves

GBU Singles Sets

Special Sweeper

Latios @ Life Orb / Expert Belt
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Ground] / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Psyshock / Psychic
- Grass Knot / Thunderbolt / Recover / Substitute

With Latios' array of possible moves, it has a lot of sweeping opportunities.
Life Orb or Expert Belt are great items with Latios to make it even more powerful.

GBU Doubles Sets

Choice

Latios @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) / Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Shadow Ball / Trick
- Hidden Power [Ground] / Ice Beam

Latios serves as a tremendous sweeper with it's very high special attack and speed.
Latios has an array of moves and STAB choices to be the ultimate special sweeper.
With a Choice Scarf, it reaches a very high speed of 243 with a Modest Nature at Level 50 which makes a Choice Scarf a very viable option.
With Choice Specs, Latios becomes an outstanding Special Sweeper that can deal loads of damage. At Level 50, its speed reaches 178 and Special Attack, 273 with a Timid Nature at Level 50.
With its huge specially-based moveset options, Latios can have a ton of great niches in this metagame.

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Special Sweeper

Latios @ Life Orb / Dragon Gem
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
- Shadow Ball / Hidden Power [Ground]
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Protect

A Life Orb Latios is perfect for a late game or early game sweeper.
With its very large movepool, there are numerous options to utilize its huge special attack and very good speed.
The Life Orb makes up for that lost power when given a Timid Nature and unlike the Specs or Scarf set, Latios can continue attacking with different moves to adjust to the situation at hand.

**Solace*** · Aug 23rd, 2011, 12:15:34 PM

edited some formatting

also i think you should slash surf somewhere in there, as latios uses it greatly and can help it out in doubles vs the common users who get STAB off of heat wave, rock slide, and earthquake.

soul_survivor · Aug 23rd, 2011, 12:33:28 PM

I've seen many people use hidden power fire, because latios is walled by mons like excadrill, and ferrathorn. Basically most steel pokemon.

***Jibaku**** · Aug 23rd, 2011, 12:48:47 PM

I use two Latios sets in singles

Latios @ Choice Specs
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Dragon Pulse / Thunderbolt
- Trick

Latios @ Expert Belt / Life Orb
- Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Grass Knot
- Psychic / Psyshock / Recover / Substitute

Latios enjoys the lack of Jirachi in this metagame, although it has to deal with Metagross being more common. The first set performs better against gimmicky teams, because a few can withstand Specs Draco Meteors or Dragon Pulses, while Trick messes up any random Sucker Punches (hi there, Mawile -__-). I prefer Dragon Pulse to Thunderbolt because of its reliability (and since locking into Thunderbolt where Ground sweepers are very common can easily spell your doom). The second set works best if you want to take out Latios' usual counters such as Scizor, Ferrothorn, Metagross and Tyranitar, but may have issues murdering things with Draco Meteor (i.e Zapdos, Rotom) if you go with EBelt, and loses out on the base 110 speedtie . I prefer Life Orb personally, but I already have the orb given to someone else, and Expert Belt is actually not a bad substitute. I haven't tested Substitute yet, but it seems nice in theory because Latios gets targeted by Sucker Punch a -lot- in my experience

Other than that, this should be self explanatory.

**sandman** · Aug 23rd, 2011, 1:42:20 PM

I would slash Trick onto the doubles Choices set. Trick can be pretty good for screwing up Cresselia and other supportors, steal Dusclops's Evolite and give it a Scarf and many other uses.

muffinhead · Aug 23rd, 2011, 1:45:07 PM

latios loves having hp ground for metagross and heatran, and even chandelure in some cases.

cosmicexplorer · Aug 23rd, 2011, 2:07:51 PM

Dragon gem is a nice alternative to life orb or Choice Specs, and it doesn't leave you locked in like Choice Specs, allowing you to use Protect alongside Draco Meteor and other moves.

Ashenlock · Aug 23rd, 2011, 3:14:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat cosmicexplorer

Dragon gem is a nice alternative to life orb or Choice Specs, and it doesn't leave you locked in like Choice Specs, allowing you to use Protect alongside Draco Meteor and other moves.

Agreed. Choice Specs isn't super-common in Double Battles, and is usually passed up for Life Orb or Dragon Gem.

**Solace*** · Aug 23rd, 2011, 3:17:09 PM

i'm also curious as to why shadow ball on latios

i dont think it really gives it anymore benefit, and there are probably better move choices. (LIKE SURF!)

also i would slash psyshock before psychic, so it isn't totally special wall bait

JRank · Aug 23rd, 2011, 5:16:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat muffinhead

latios loves having hp ground for metagross and heatran, and even chandelure in some cases.

Yeah HP Ground is awesome, if I run Latios I usually run something like Dragon Pulse / HP Ground / Psyshock @ Life Orb / Haban Berry, and it is strong, very strong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat cosmicexplorer

Dragon gem is a nice alternative to life orb or Choice Specs, and it doesn't leave you locked in like Choice Specs, allowing you to use Protect alongside Draco Meteor and other moves.

Yeah Dragon Gem makes Draco Meteor kill everything that doesn't resist it, and even some of those! Also makes Dragon Pulse great.

(yes I know I just seconded other people but they were good suggestions and I wanted re-iterate them so people would know how great HP Ground and Dragon Gem is!)

~Golden Emp · Aug 23rd, 2011, 9:00:28 PM

Don't forget the Singles Sweeping Latios =D

@Life Orb
Timid
EV's: 252 spatk, 252 spe, 4 def
Thunderbolt/Thunder
Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
Psyshock
Ice Beam/HP Fire

Psyshock OHKO's most Conkeldurr's (Well, I've seen a lot that invest in hp and special defense)

PungentFruit · Aug 24th, 2011, 8:42:29 AM

Edited in the changes and suggestions.

Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:04:12 AM	#1
PungentFruit Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 348 #swaggg	Latios HP: 80 Atk: 90 Def: 80 SAtk: 130 SDef: 110 Spe: 110 Abilities: Levitate: Damage dealing Ground-type moves have no effect on this Pokémon. Cannot be trapped by Arena Trap ability. Takes no damage from Spikes. Moves Code: Level-Up Moves 1 Psywave 5 Heal Block 10 Helping Hand 15 Safeguard 20 DragonBreath 25 Protect 30 Refresh 35 Luster Purge 40 Zen Headbutt 45 Recover 50 Psycho Shift 55 Dragon Dance 60 Psychic 65 Heal Pulse 70 Telekinesis 75 Power Split 80 Dragon Pulse 85 Memento TM/HMs Learned TM01 Hone Claws TM02 Dragon Claw TM03 Psyshock TM04 Calm Mind TM05 Roar TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM13 Ice Beam TM15 Hyper Beam TM16 Light Screen TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM19 Telekinesis TM20 Safeguard TM21 Frustration TM22 SolarBeam TM24 Thunderbolt TM25 Thunder TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM28 Psychic TM30 Shadow Ball TM32 Double Team TM33 Reflect TM37 Sandstorm TM40 Aerial Ace TM42 Facade TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM48 Round TM53 Energy Ball TM57 Charge Beam TM65 Shadow Claw TM67 Retaliate TM68 Giga Impact TM70 Flash TM73 Thunder Wave TM77 Psych Up TM78 Bulldoze TM85 Dream Eater TM86 Grass Knot TM87 Swagger TM90 Substitute HM01 Cut HM02 Fly HM03 Surf HM05 Waterfall HM06 Dive Egg Moves N/A Pre-Evolution Moves N/A Move Tutor Moves Draco Meteor Other Gen IV Moves: TM03 Water Pulse TM34 Shock Wave TM43 Secret Power TM47 Steel Wing TM51 Roost TM58 Endure TM78 Captivate TM82 Sleep Talk TM83 Natural Gift HM05 DPPt: Defog HM05 HGSS: Whirlpool Gen IV Tutor Moves Magic Coat Tailwind Fury Cutter Icy Wind Last Resort Mud-Slap Outrage Snore Swift Trick Twister GBU Singles Sets Special Sweeper Latios @ Life Orb / Expert Belt Trait: Levitate EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) - Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor - Hidden Power [Ground] / Hidden Power [Fire] - Psyshock / Psychic - Grass Knot / Thunderbolt / Recover / Substitute With Latios' array of possible moves, it has a lot of sweeping opportunities. Life Orb or Expert Belt are great items with Latios to make it even more powerful. GBU Doubles Sets Choice Latios @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf Trait: Levitate EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) / Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor - Psychic / Psyshock - Shadow Ball / Trick - Hidden Power [Ground] / Ice Beam Latios serves as a tremendous sweeper with it's very high special attack and speed. Latios has an array of moves and STAB choices to be the ultimate special sweeper. With a Choice Scarf, it reaches a very high speed of 243 with a Modest Nature at Level 50 which makes a Choice Scarf a very viable option. With Choice Specs, Latios becomes an outstanding Special Sweeper that can deal loads of damage. At Level 50, its speed reaches 178 and Special Attack, 273 with a Timid Nature at Level 50. With its huge specially-based moveset options, Latios can have a ton of great niches in this metagame. --- Special Sweeper Latios @ Life Orb / Dragon Gem Trait: Levitate EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) - Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor - Shadow Ball / Hidden Power [Ground] - Psychic / Psyshock - Protect A Life Orb Latios is perfect for a late game or early game sweeper. With its very large movepool, there are numerous options to utilize its huge special attack and very good speed. The Life Orb makes up for that lost power when given a Timid Nature and unlike the Specs or Scarf set, Latios can continue attacking with different moves to adjust to the situation at hand. __________________ ♪(┌・。・)┌ Last edited by PungentFruit; Aug 24th, 2011 at 8:49:53 PM.

Aug 23rd, 2011, 12:15:34 PM	#2
Solace* i was born to save the doctor Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,973 i love #thatPOWER Mentor	edited some formatting also i think you should slash surf somewhere in there, as latios uses it greatly and can help it out in doubles vs the common users who get STAB off of heat wave, rock slide, and earthquake. __________________ when ppl are like ‘the new pokemon are so unoriginal and dumb’ im like?? ? ? celebi was a flying onion

Aug 23rd, 2011, 12:33:28 PM	#3
soul_survivor Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 876 StatenIsland, NY	I've seen many people use hidden power fire, because latios is walled by mons like excadrill, and ferrathorn. Basically most steel pokemon. __________________ FC: 2709 6546 0200

Aug 23rd, 2011, 12:48:47 PM	#4
*Jibaku [02:06] <DixieNormous> Rodan x pookar: Just Do It Super Moderator** Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,909 Foursquare, a sprained ankle, bottlecap ninjas, and wallball	I use two Latios sets in singles Latios @ Choice Specs - Draco Meteor - Surf - Dragon Pulse / Thunderbolt - Trick Latios @ Expert Belt / Life Orb - Draco Meteor - Hidden Power [Fire] - Grass Knot - Psychic / Psyshock / Recover / Substitute Latios enjoys the lack of Jirachi in this metagame, although it has to deal with Metagross being more common. The first set performs better against gimmicky teams, because a few can withstand Specs Draco Meteors or Dragon Pulses, while Trick messes up any random Sucker Punches (hi there, Mawile -__-). I prefer Dragon Pulse to Thunderbolt because of its reliability (and since locking into Thunderbolt where Ground sweepers are very common can easily spell your doom). The second set works best if you want to take out Latios' usual counters such as Scizor, Ferrothorn, Metagross and Tyranitar, but may have issues murdering things with Draco Meteor (i.e Zapdos, Rotom) if you go with EBelt, and loses out on the base 110 speedtie . I prefer Life Orb personally, but I already have the orb given to someone else, and Expert Belt is actually not a bad substitute. I haven't tested Substitute yet, but it seems nice in theory because Latios gets targeted by Sucker Punch a -lot- in my experience Other than that, this should be self explanatory. __________________ Last edited by Jibaku; Aug 23rd, 2011 at 1:45:05 PM.

Aug 23rd, 2011, 1:45:07 PM	#6
muffinhead b202 wifi vgc Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 933 wow, fantastic baby	latios loves having hp ground for metagross and heatran, and even chandelure in some cases. __________________ [ vgc youtube \| stream ] 12:49:41 JRank lol i've still won more than you guys have 12:49:47 JRank i'll win with whatever team wins geee geee spreads um

Aug 23rd, 2011, 1:42:20 PM	#5
sandman Bum bum bum bum Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,124 #nuggetbridge	I would slash Trick onto the doubles Choices set. Trick can be pretty good for screwing up Cresselia and other supportors, steal Dusclops's Evolite and give it a Scarf and many other uses.

Aug 23rd, 2011, 2:07:51 PM	#7
cosmicexplorer pewpewpew Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,555 Bethesda, MD	Dragon gem is a nice alternative to life orb or Choice Specs, and it doesn't leave you locked in like Choice Specs, allowing you to use Protect alongside Draco Meteor and other moves. __________________ FATECRASHERS MADE MY AVATAR! Go look at more art! Currently out, college apps are poison. C&Cers, contact me if you need any help with anything important. Sorry!

Aug 23rd, 2011, 3:17:09 PM	#9
Solace* i was born to save the doctor Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,973 i love #thatPOWER Mentor	i'm also curious as to why shadow ball on latios i dont think it really gives it anymore benefit, and there are probably better move choices. (LIKE SURF!) also i would slash psyshock before psychic, so it isn't totally special wall bait __________________ when ppl are like ‘the new pokemon are so unoriginal and dumb’ im like?? ? ? celebi was a flying onion

Aug 23rd, 2011, 9:00:28 PM	#11
~Golden Emp Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 560 México D.F.	Don't forget the Singles Sweeping Latios =D @Life Orb Timid EV's: 252 spatk, 252 spe, 4 def Thunderbolt/Thunder Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor Psyshock Ice Beam/HP Fire Psyshock OHKO's most Conkeldurr's (Well, I've seen a lot that invest in hp and special defense) __________________ I'm loving college. I really miss VGC.

Aug 24th, 2011, 8:42:29 AM	#12
PungentFruit Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 348 #swaggg	Edited in the changes and suggestions. __________________ ♪(┌・。・)┌