(Ubers) trick cream (or pie room)

[pie cream]

Hithis is a uber tirck room team that I've made. I've played tens games and it was 50 / 50 so I want to know if I could improve on somethings. Thank you for help.


Edit:changes in bold



bronzong@lifeorb / lefovers
Trait:levitate
EVs:252hp / 252atk / 4def
IVs:0spe
nature:Brave
move:Trick Room
move:Gyro Ball
move:EarthQuake
move:SealthRock
This is my lead. Trick room because thats the point of the team and plus it's slow. Gyro ball because bron is slow and gos well with trick room and deals with ray. EarthQuake for couverge. And sealth rock to support the rest of the team and hinders Ho-oh. 252hp gives me good bulk, 252atk gives me power and the 4def to take outrages a litter bit better. Brave nature for more power and to lower speed

things I will consider: defensive spread with lefouvers?









kyroge@lefovers
Trait:Drizzle
EVs:252hp / 252spa / 4spdef
IVs:0spe
nature:Quiet
move:Surf
move:Icebeam
move:Thunder
move:Hyro Pump

This is my wheather changder. Surf is a reliable stab. IceBeam for dragons and grass types. Thunder for water types. And Hyro Pump for a powerful stab. 252hp for bulk. 252spa for power and 4spdef for sine its spdef is higher then it def. Quiet nature for more power and to lower speed. Kyroge is here for the wheather so sun teams are at bay. It's also her so Bronzong loses his fire weakness and for my thunders to be accerte.

things I will cinsider: something over hyro pump.






Dialga@liforb
Trait:persure
252hp / 4def / 252spa
IVs:0spe
nature:Quiet
move:TrickRoom
move:Draco Meter
move:Fire Blast
move:Thunder
Tis is my offensive tickroom setuper. Trick room to support the team. Draco meter for a powerful stab. fire blast for steels (not sure on this). Thunder to abuse the rain. 252hp for bulk. def because. 252spa for power. Quiet nature for trick room and for more power. life orb for the boost in power for my attakes. Dialga is here to set up trick room and for late game where every thing is whonded.

things I will consinder: get ride of fire blast and go mix with outrage.





heracross@LifeOrb
Trait:Guts
248hp / 232atk / 28spdef
IVs:0spe
nature:Brave
move:CloseCombat
move:Megahorn
move:Stone Edge
move:Sleep Talk
This is my phyical attker. Closecombat for a grat stab. Megahorn to hit anything that doesn't resised it hard. Stone egde for Ho-oh. And sleep talk to check darkia. 248hp for bulk. 232atk for huge power. 28spdef to take darkias attkes better.LifeOrb to hit hard and to swich moves .Brave nature to lower my speed and raise attake. 0spe IVs to lower my speed eveing more. Hreacoss is here for the sheer force of his power and to check darkia and is my status abrosber.

things I will consinder: none





Palkia@HabenBerry
Trait:Pressure
EVs:252 / 4atk / 252spa
Nature:Quiet
IVs:0spe
Move:TrickRoom
Move:Surf
Move:Draco Meter
Move:Outrage
This is Palkia. He has replaced Giratina-O as a kyroge check to sponge the Water Spouts it disishes out. Its also my third trickroom setter.TrickRoom so Palkia can sweep and for others to take avantage of.Surf for a good stab in the rain. Draco meter to kill giratina-0 and for a good stab if they resist surf. Outrage to deal better damage to blissy and better damage to things after I used Draco meter.252hp for bulk so I can swich into kyrogers water attaks better and more times. 252spa to hit hard with surf and draco meter. 4atk to deal deasnt damage to speial walls. Quiet nature to boost my speial attkak with out having to lower my bulk or my attak. Haben berry so I can survive a dragon attak from a dragon and ko them with my dragon attak (unless they have haben berry too).

Things I will consider: 4hp / 252atk / 252spa for a more powerful outrage, 252hp / 252atk / 4spa to 2hko bulkie kyroge with outrage. Fire blast or thunder ouver outrage and go full out speial and put the rest in sp.def. Lusrous orb over haben berry to give it's stabs more power.





Mewtwo@choiceScraf
Trait:Pressure
EVs:136def / 196spa / 176spe
Nature:Timid
Move:IceBeam
Move:Thunder
Move:GrassKnot
Move:Trick
This is mewtwo. He is my revenge killer outside of trickroom.IceBeam to kill dragons and grass types. Thunder to take avantage of the rain kyroge provides and is my best way of dealing damage to ho-oh with mewtwo.Grassknot to ko groudon.Trick to cripple walls that try to swich into mewtwo's attaks (IE blissey). Choice srcaf so I can outspeed groudon after a rock polish and rayquaza after a dagondance. 136def so I can live a +2 extremespeed after sealthrock from adament rayquaza and a eathquacke from jolly groudon. 196spa for power.176 to outspeed +2 groudon and +1 rayquaza. timid nature for the boost in speed I need.Mewtwo is my answer to rockpolish groudon, if it adament then I can revenge kill it but can't swich in. If it's jolly then it outspeeds me but can't kill me then I kill it with grassknot.Mewrwo is also my answer to dagondance and sword dance rayquaza, I outspeed rayquaza at +1 speed and I can live a +2 extremespeed from sword dance rayquaza even after sealthrock.

Things I will consider:none


So this is My team. Hope yout like it. I'm sorry is if the info is to short or if something doesn't make sense. Thank you for rating.

[pie cream]

Bump

[Iconic*]

Well you have no safe Kyogre switch in, which is obviously a problem. It can just spam Water Spout and take out pretty much anything on your team. You could easily slot Palkia somewhere on your team. If you want, you can run it over Giratina-O as a mixed attacked. Palkia has access to Trick Room, so you could run a Quiet 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Atk variant with Trick Room / Outrage / Spacial Rend / Surf. It's pretty hard to wall and makes for an great Kyogre counter with all the HP EVs. I'd use Haban Berry as its item because you're sort of weak to Giratina-O, so it'd be nice to have a lure to take it out.

If you're having troubles when Trick Room isn't active against fast hard-hitters, you could always run Scarf Palkia instead. Alternatively, a Scarf Mewtwo of your own could be really helpful in Mew's place. Mew becomes replaceable if you add Palkia over Giratina-O since it makes up for the loss of a Trick Roomer. Mewtwo checks Rock Polish Groudon (who wrecks you if it gets a boost up), Scarf Kyogre, and pretty much all Rayquaza. Your team works really well when Trick Room is active, but it obviously won't be up all the time, so Scarf Mewtwo could help you keep momentum after Trick Room's effect ends.

Oh you should also probably use Life Orb or Leftovers on Heracross. Choice Band really limits its sweeping potential when Trick Room is up, not to mention CB screws up Sleep Talk if you don't select the same move twice.

[pie cream]

Thanks Iconic, I try out palkia. I geuss mewtwo will help me with kyroge.



Edit: ok I tried palkia and mewtwo and I have problems with Calm mind kyroge. Any Ideas? Palkia and mewtwo will be on the team by the way

[pie cream]

Bump, have made changes to the team giratina-O and mew are gone and palkia and mewtwo are in. Are there any changes I should make / try?

[tiya]

Megahorn to hit anything nait resised hard. Stone egde for Ho-oh. And sleep talk to check darkia. 248hp for bulk. 232atk for huge power. 28spdef to take darkias attkes better.LifeOrb to hit hard and to swich moves .Brave nature to lower my speed and raise attake. 0spe IVs to lower my speed eveing more. have made changes to the team giratina-O and mew are gone and palkia and mewtwo are in.

[pie cream]

whoops! cahnges made.