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Sure, do you plan on writing it?
Btw, I found some Anime battles that might represent what ASB is all about. They are Ash's battles with Drake in the Orange League. You can watch the first part here: http://pokemonepisode.org/episode-113-hello-pummelo/ and then the battle is finished in the next episode. This can be used to show new players how battles are different. A few things to note: the ref's commentary, the arena's effect on the battle. Btw, in the first part, you can skip to 10 minutes after it starts.
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Yes, possibly.
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Here's Tricks of the Trade so far.
Any recommendations?
Tricks of the Trade "alpha version"
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Gentle asskicking post reminder.
Lets try to finish this up so we can get a good handle on everything.
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All of you are n00bs.
Battle Rules
Basic Battling
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Aight. Fire Blast, your changes were implemented, and the creativity part is finished!
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Time to finish this thing up:
Prize Claiming
Role Playing
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Vision and Mission
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You asked for more info in the battle techniques info so here's a few things I see.
Make mention of how potentially all of a mons abilities can be used. A prima example is Ciccino (not sure exactly how to spell it). It's weak in game but can be a monster in asb because of technician+skill link. Something about weather would be nice. Theres almost no auto weather but almost everything can pack a weather move especially with almost no weather wars. Something about how stat boosts are ass. Kinda. Statices are really strong and stackable. Entry hazards are a waste of attacking a lot of the time (with the exception on toxic spikes which can be really good). Almost all unfortunate match ups can be overcome somehow. Mention how countercoatburst are really (too) good. Can't think of anything else for now. If you want I can give this stuff a full writeup on Wednesday when I get home from vacation.
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It's not an opinion article, smashlloyd, it's a guide.
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Advanced Tactics
Made a few small edits.
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Ok sorry that sounded a little too much like an opinion. Maybe it would be nice to mention a few of those things in a tone not so...opiniony. I'd pick exca over steelix probably. You can't truly say steel is better.
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Exca may win in a one-on-one match with Steelix, but really, Steelix has many more uses and often takes a pittance from physical coverage moves aimed towards it.
I would agree with Smash though that hazards are somewhat of a terrible idea in a metagame where switching often doesn't occur. Although, in Switch=OK, I would say they're at least as useful as in-game. Very few Pokemon can stand switching when they take such a large amount of damage each switch-in, (compared to other attacks) and thus can let your opponent create an advantageous type matchup. It's almost like a fear-based Mean Look or Spider Web.
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While steelix may be better than exca in more situations, steelix needs a long long long time to be ready for anything. Excadrill can get up to it's full potency in a very short amount of tome and even then it has quite a few match ups where its better than steelix. Then again they're both steel types so they are both awesome so whatever. Also a matchup between the two of them to decode which is better is bullshit, by that logic wobb is better than cyclohm.
As for entry hazards...most of this advice is based on the commonly used battle formats. Switch ok battles are extremely rare, as are battles long enough to make hazards worth it. Tomorrow night I'm getting home so I can type an example paragraph of what I mean by a few of those statements.
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No need, it's very understandable the aversion to hazards in the majority of battles. Although, I would like to see more creative uses of them involving pushing back/throwing opponents. They would act as a buffer to add more damage to well-placed attacks, and it's definitely plausible to use hazards in this way, as arena traps can be used as such already...
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I agree they can be very good attacking/defending/whatever moves instead of just hazarding. Might dash something off about hazards when I get home tonight.
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This needs a GP check?
I'm not a member of the GP staff, but if it hasn't been done, then i can do it.
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Alright-let's update and rework this. We missed Smog #16, let's try for Smog #17.
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Is this going in the smog? We'd need to make it a lot more concise for that to work....
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Why not make a different concise version for usage by the Smog? (or just split it into a "why join+basics" section and an "advanced stuff" section for two different Smogs)
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