Favorite non-ubers you use in ubers. - Page 4

chrisrandom9 · Oct 3rd, 2011, 8:23:02 AM

CM Virizion was good to me when I used to play Ubers. Standard set really.

Virizion @ Life Orb
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Focus Blast
- HP Ice
- Giga Drain

Farewell · Oct 3rd, 2011, 4:45:40 PM

Adamant swiftswim Poliwrath with encore, belly drum, waterfall, brick break and holding mystic water. KOs everything not named Giratina/O, Shedinja, Rayquaza, and defensive Groudon.

Mr.lol · Oct 4th, 2011, 6:19:54 PM

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Adamant swiftswim Poliwrath with encore, belly drum, waterfall, brick break and holding mystic water. KOs everything not named Giratina/O, Shedinja, Rayquaza, and defensive Groudon.

Seconding this guy as an insane threat and providing a log of me getting mauled by it o.0, I must say though Jolly enables the thing to outspeed Modest scarf Darkrai shouldn't be left out as an option (also what about hypnosis <.<).

If we are allowed to include Dream World pokes, Sub CM Chandelure has done a near godly job of coming in on Chansey and sweeping shortly after setting up + 6 stats in front of it.

Also no love for good ole Wobba? Aside from being a great Revenge Killer Setting up pokes into a lose-lose situation is just wonderful.

Farewell · Oct 6th, 2011, 3:41:19 PM

Well Substitute and Missing is a big reason to use Encore over Hypnosis, also if someone switches in a Magic Bounce Poke, its better to be Encored than put to sleep.

As for Jolly, I agree, but sometimes you need all the power you can get, and I feel that's why I use Mystic Water over Leftovers now.

P.S. That video of You vs Me was nice, but I'm surprised you didn't switch out Togekiss sooner?

shrang · Oct 6th, 2011, 7:01:41 PM

Adamant Poliwrath peaks at 478 Speed, which isn't even enough to outspeed Scarf Palkia. Defensive Kyogre is also a Pokemon that Poliwrath can't OHKO at +6, which is pretty pathetic, actually.

Electro Gypsy · Oct 7th, 2011, 10:51:13 AM

It would be better if Brick Break wasn't its only STAB fighting move with no drawbacks. Hell even Sky Uppercut would work...

Farewell · Oct 7th, 2011, 1:36:41 PM

Well if Poliwrath switches into Defensive Kyogre it can Encore a set-up move and then sweep from there. Yes Kyogre can switch put and be at full HP to be a revenge killer later on, but Kyogre has to watch out for SR, and maintain high HP.

barry4ever · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Farewell

Well if Poliwrath switches into Defensive Kyogre it can Encore a set-up move and then sweep from there. Yes Kyogre can switch put and be at full HP to be a revenge killer later on, but Kyogre has to watch out for SR, and maintain high HP.

Yes it does have to maintain high HP but thats quite easy thanks to Rest. Also not being able to outspeed the most common Scarf user in Ubers i.e Palkia really sucks for Poliwrath.

Chou Toshio · Oct 7th, 2011, 9:16:55 PM

yeah, Swift Swim Poliwrath's movepool is so screwed... it doesn't even get Ice Punch...

**Furai** · Oct 8th, 2011, 1:44:15 PM

After testing Sableye for my analysis, he's definitely one of my favorites. His aid to Stall is just insanely great; beats other Stall and Offensive teams by using Taunt against the former and by Will-O-Wisp against the latter, crippling the main sweepers like Extremekiller and DDQuaza. Prankster was godsend.

Brophlosion · Oct 14th, 2011, 3:08:00 PM

Yanmega <3
I take Speed Boost where I can get it.

LucaroarkZ · Oct 14th, 2011, 8:34:46 PM

Definitely Heracross. Heracross just feels like it was made for Ubers, hitting hard off of a base 125 Attack stat, and being one of the few offensively viable Pokemon capable of switching in on Darkrai. The Choice Scarf set easily keeps Darkrai and Mewtwo in check with STAB Megahorn.

Crona · Oct 14th, 2011, 11:24:39 PM

I don't use many non-ubers...
But this Dugtrio set has to be the hardest set to get going:

Jolly 252 Spd/252 Attack
Hone Claws
Substitute
Earthquake
Sucker Punch

You have to completely rely on your opponent using a choiced Pokemon that uses an Electric move. Arena Trap keeps them in while you sub, Hone Claws, and then sweep. I love the set though. It's satisfying to see Duggy doing that.

ssbbm · Oct 14th, 2011, 11:43:13 PM

stone edge > sucker punch

and F YEAH heracross is the best

Fawfulmk-II · Oct 15th, 2011, 1:43:12 PM

It USED to be Shedinja, but not now(thanks a lot, Zekrom and reshiram!)

now, probably ferrothorn or Rotom-W or Gyarados.

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Scizor is almost made for ubers, because of its bulk, and access to u-turn and pursuit

I loved trolling Deoxys-S with this guy in Gen 4.

McNUTTY · Oct 16th, 2011, 2:30:09 AM

Specially Defensive Heatran is really strong in ubers, outright walls so many things in the Sun, and with the sun still has really good damage with Flamethrower/Lava Plume.
Girantina, Girantina O, Palkia (Sun), Any Arceus with out a super effective Special stab and other threats are easily walled with 252 HP and 252 SpD 4 Spe. The best part about Heatran is that it is really versatile and can run a lot of different moves to cover lots of different threats. Will o Wisp, Toxic, Flamethrower, Lava Plume, Taunt, SR, Dragon Pulse, Earth Power are all really viable on Heatran which makes him imo one of the best walls in the Ubers Metagame.

jessifer · Oct 21st, 2011, 9:06:22 PM

Ferrothorn. Gyro ball is deadly. ^_^

***Antar**** · Oct 22nd, 2011, 11:08:46 AM

Ludicolo as Kyogre/rain counter. SwiftSwim means you can outrun even scarfed Timid Kyogres without a choice item (you don't even need to run a +Spe nature).

LO Modest Grass Knot usually OHKOes 4/0 Kyogres (does 95-112%). Then, with Kyogre down, proceed to abuse your ridiculous speed and boosted water STAB move (I run Scald).

It's also usually a good switch-in to Ferrothorn, since it blocks Leech Seed and 2HKOes with Focus Blast (assuming they both hit).

Aurora. · Oct 22nd, 2011, 12:58:09 PM

I'm thinking about using the Attacking Durian set which I made up for Ferrothorn: Power Whip/Iron Head/Poison Jab/Thunder Wave, with 252 attack/128 defense/128 sp. defense EVs, myself.

**Tobes** · Oct 22nd, 2011, 1:02:12 PM

Poison Jab is a terrible move. Never use it.

mtr · Oct 22nd, 2011, 4:20:59 PM

Forry and Bliss. Yeah, I'm old school.

Forretress is a bit worse off now that Ferrothorn is better than him on most teams unless you need Toxic Spikes/Rapid Spin, but at least he got Volt Change, which lets him work decently on offensive teams like those using Groudon/Reshiram.

Aurora. · Oct 22nd, 2011, 8:55:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Tobes

Poison Jab is a terrible move. Never use it.

That may be so, but at least it OHKO's any Grass-types who are stupid enough to come in on it, and Poison-trolls all other things (bar Steel-types or Magic Guard Pokemon).

**Tobes** · Oct 22nd, 2011, 8:59:39 PM

Poison Jab is not OHKOing (probably not even 2HKOing) Grass Arceus, which is pretty much the only the only Grass-type in Ubers outside of Ferrothorn itself and Skymin, which you hit harder with Gyro Ball anyway.

McNUTTY · Oct 28th, 2011, 4:11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat mtr

Forry and Bliss. Yeah, I'm old school.

Forretress is a bit worse off now that Ferrothorn is better than him on most teams unless you need Toxic Spikes/Rapid Spin, but at least he got Volt Change, which lets him work decently on offensive teams like those using Groudon/Reshiram.

At least Forretress can sit in front of Ferrothorn and set up hazards while spinning his away.

Poppy · Oct 28th, 2011, 4:13:42 AM

An iron helmet ferrothorn effectively spinblocks forretress, making it take 25% every time it spins. Not really a necessity though since gira and gira-o will never be broken by forretress, ever.

Oct 3rd, 2011, 4:45:40 PM	#77
Farewell Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 770 Exit the place you no longer need, abandon the place you no longer want. Reject invitation to return	Adamant swiftswim Poliwrath with encore, belly drum, waterfall, brick break and holding mystic water. KOs everything not named Giratina/O, Shedinja, Rayquaza, and defensive Groudon. __________________ Farewell!

Oct 6th, 2011, 3:41:19 PM	#79
Farewell Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 770 Exit the place you no longer need, abandon the place you no longer want. Reject invitation to return	Well Substitute and Missing is a big reason to use Encore over Hypnosis, also if someone switches in a Magic Bounce Poke, its better to be Encored than put to sleep. As for Jolly, I agree, but sometimes you need all the power you can get, and I feel that's why I use Mystic Water over Leftovers now. P.S. That video of You vs Me was nice, but I'm surprised you didn't switch out Togekiss sooner? __________________ Farewell!

Oct 7th, 2011, 1:36:41 PM	#82
Farewell Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 770 Exit the place you no longer need, abandon the place you no longer want. Reject invitation to return	Well if Poliwrath switches into Defensive Kyogre it can Encore a set-up move and then sweep from there. Yes Kyogre can switch put and be at full HP to be a revenge killer later on, but Kyogre has to watch out for SR, and maintain high HP. __________________ Farewell!

Oct 7th, 2011, 9:16:55 PM	#84
Chou Toshio Hmmm... A name for the plan... Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,035 Sea Forest	yeah, Swift Swim Poliwrath's movepool is so screwed... it doesn't even get Ice Punch... __________________ "Hmmm... a name for this plan..."

Oct 8th, 2011, 1:44:15 PM	#85
Furai echoes in the dead of dawn Moderator Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,211	After testing Sableye for my analysis, he's definitely one of my favorites. His aid to Stall is just insanely great; beats other Stall and Offensive teams by using Taunt against the former and by Will-O-Wisp against the latter, crippling the main sweepers like Extremekiller and DDQuaza. Prankster was godsend. __________________ *#gohard* \| Wolfpack (Ubers RMT) Last edited by Furai; Apr 4th, 2012 at 9:29:46 AM.

Oct 3rd, 2011, 8:23:02 AM	#76
chrisrandom9 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 75	CM Virizion was good to me when I used to play Ubers. Standard set really. Virizion @ Life Orb Trait: Justified EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spd / 4 HP Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Focus Blast - HP Ice - Giga Drain

Oct 7th, 2011, 10:51:13 AM	#81
Electro Gypsy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 46	It would be better if Brick Break wasn't its only STAB fighting move with no drawbacks. Hell even Sky Uppercut would work...

Oct 14th, 2011, 3:08:00 PM	#86
Brophlosion Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 172 California	Yanmega <3 I take Speed Boost where I can get it. __________________ B/W2 FC 0476 5871 7060 I try to upload every game I play, whether I win or lose. My Youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/THATSAplusONE?feature=mhum My Twitchhttp://www.twitch.tv/eye_shine

Oct 14th, 2011, 8:34:46 PM	#87
LucaroarkZ Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,128 San Diego, CA	Definitely Heracross. Heracross just feels like it was made for Ubers, hitting hard off of a base 125 Attack stat, and being one of the few offensively viable Pokemon capable of switching in on Darkrai. The Choice Scarf set easily keeps Darkrai and Mewtwo in check with STAB Megahorn. __________________ "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand." - Milton Friedman I am not lucaroark on Pokemon Showdown. I'm always on PS as Adamant Zoroark.

Oct 14th, 2011, 11:24:39 PM	#88
Crona Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 134 Georgia	I don't use many non-ubers... But this Dugtrio set has to be the hardest set to get going: Jolly 252 Spd/252 Attack Hone Claws Substitute Earthquake Sucker Punch You have to completely rely on your opponent using a choiced Pokemon that uses an Electric move. Arena Trap keeps them in while you sub, Hone Claws, and then sweep. I love the set though. It's satisfying to see Duggy doing that. __________________ Hyouki on PS

Oct 14th, 2011, 11:43:13 PM	#89
ssbbm Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,001 Where you can play Pokemon with Singing Narwhals and Dancing Clouds	stone edge > sucker punch and F YEAH heracross is the best

Oct 21st, 2011, 9:06:22 PM	#92
jessifer Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 271 A magical place~	Ferrothorn. Gyro ball is deadly. ^_^ __________________ RMTs: Sun-OU RMT * Rain-Ubers RMT * Hazards-OU RMT Art Thread

Oct 22nd, 2011, 11:08:46 AM	#93
*Antar That's Dr. Antar to you Super Moderator** Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,081 DC Metro Area	Ludicolo as Kyogre/rain counter. SwiftSwim means you can outrun even scarfed Timid Kyogres without a choice item (you don't even need to run a +Spe nature). LO Modest Grass Knot usually OHKOes 4/0 Kyogres (does 95-112%). Then, with Kyogre down, proceed to abuse your ridiculous speed and boosted water STAB move (I run Scald). It's also usually a good switch-in to Ferrothorn, since it blocks Leech Seed and 2HKOes with Focus Blast (assuming they both hit). __________________ Codes and Hacks I Use PBR FC: 4898-8739-8815 (See here) DS FCs on Request My Narrated PBR & Gen V Battles My Trade Thread Convert any sim team to pkms Pokemetrics: A Blog Last edited by barry4ever; Oct 22nd, 2011 at 10:51:48 PM. Reason: SwSw makes no sense -_-

Oct 22nd, 2011, 12:58:09 PM	#94
Aurora. Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 299 Sydney, Australia	I'm thinking about using the Attacking Durian set which I made up for Ferrothorn: Power Whip/Iron Head/Poison Jab/Thunder Wave, with 252 attack/128 defense/128 sp. defense EVs, myself.

Oct 22nd, 2011, 1:02:12 PM	#95
Tobes Woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,274 GONER	Poison Jab is a terrible move. Never use it. __________________

Oct 22nd, 2011, 4:20:59 PM	#96
mtr Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754	Forry and Bliss. Yeah, I'm old school. Forretress is a bit worse off now that Ferrothorn is better than him on most teams unless you need Toxic Spikes/Rapid Spin, but at least he got Volt Change, which lets him work decently on offensive teams like those using Groudon/Reshiram.

Oct 22nd, 2011, 8:59:39 PM	#98
Tobes Woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,274 GONER	Poison Jab is not OHKOing (probably not even 2HKOing) Grass Arceus, which is pretty much the only the only Grass-type in Ubers outside of Ferrothorn itself and Skymin, which you hit harder with Gyro Ball anyway. __________________

Oct 28th, 2011, 4:13:42 AM	#100
Poppy SYMPTOMATIC OF A GREATER ILL Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,443 brisbane	An iron helmet ferrothorn effectively spinblocks forretress, making it take 25% every time it spins. Not really a necessity though since gira and gira-o will never be broken by forretress, ever. __________________ erotically erudite