|Sep 28th, 2011, 3:26:49 AM||#1|
Join Date: Dec 2004
Yeah, I got rid of it.
It worried me that our RBY UU tier seemed to be carrying authority it really had no right to.
This isnt a case of rewriting history, because that banlist doesnt really have any history. It was made after ADV had came out and it was hardly used. On top of that, it wasnt very good. It concerned me that people seemed to be deferring to it when they probably shouldnt.
So if you are going to play RBY UU, you will need to come up with your own bl list. My recommendation is to think pretty hard about Articuno, Jolteon, Hypno and Tentacruel. I'm not saying they should be one way or the other, but they are closest to the border in my opinion.
Unless you want a lower cut off, in which case, by all means do that.
|Sep 28th, 2011, 10:37:52 AM||#2|
I'm gonna bury you in the ground~
Join Date: Dec 2005
I'm gonna bury you with my sound~
So assuming enough testing was done and the players made their own BL list, would you adopt it for the site, or this a permanent change?
|Sep 28th, 2011, 2:41:30 PM||#3|
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Good idea hip, I actually find that UU without anything banned (or as rby2k10 calls it the BL metagame) is actually pretty balanced in and of itself.
Also noticed you moved cloyster to OU, or was he always there?
|Sep 28th, 2011, 3:08:57 PM||#4|
Join Date: Jun 2011
Cloyster and Dragonite moved up.
|Sep 28th, 2011, 5:19:34 PM||#5|
Join Date: Dec 2004
Oh yeah, I did that too.
As for adopting an official uu list, I dont really see the need for it, but if there is significant demand for it sure..
|Sep 28th, 2011, 11:34:57 PM||#6|
Laying the Groundwork for the Pound Work
Join Date: Sep 2010
there's no point really. No one (to my knowledge) plays RBY UU as it is, so making an official list seems trivial.
|Sep 29th, 2011, 2:54:20 AM||#7|
also known as Darkwing_Duck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Andromeda Galaxy
I doubt we'll get a "significant" demand soon. What we *could* do to gauge the situation would be an RBY UU tournament. We could see how this works out with a test trial, though quite a few of the players will likely be later gen players with a "let's try it out" mentality I'm afraid...
17:47 Zarator cc for cap shit?
17:47 Zarator why?
17:48 Destiny_Warrior he contributed to the CAP community with his posts duh
17:48 Zarator oh wait
17:48 Objection maybe CAP's becoming more influential on smogon?
17:48 Zarator you don't mean currency counters right?
CAP ASB and Battle Arcade
|Sep 29th, 2011, 7:54:33 AM||#8|
Don't cry, little one
Join Date: Mar 2008
|Sep 29th, 2011, 11:03:42 AM||#9|
Join Date: Aug 2009
This is actually really cool. Large BL tiers in general are really stupid, so props for removing it altogether. Has anyone thought about hosting an RBY UU tournament to test out the current metagame?
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|Sep 29th, 2011, 5:09:20 PM||#10|
Join Date: Jun 2009
These are without Wrapping moves, but could easily be changed around for Smogon to use.
(All NFEs not previously listed)
|Sep 29th, 2011, 7:34:34 PM||#11|
Join Date: Feb 2005
I thought hitmonlee was UU. Because of Hi Jump Kick to kill Snorlax/Tauros/Chansey?
Butterfree up your day, because I'll bedrilling you all night
|Sep 29th, 2011, 7:48:55 PM||#12|
Join Date: Jun 2009
The tiers are made so all tiers are playable on their own. Tiers based on OU viability is a bit silly. Sure Hitmonlee can (barely) KO Normals in OU, but that's not useful in BL or UU where different types of Pokemon are more commonly used, and Hitmonlee is definitely not OU.
With tiers based on OU viability, others would shoot up to BL too like Kingler, Aerodactyl, etc.
Edit: Also HJK on its own isn't the best way to beat the Normals. If you're interested, I can PM you an off-site guide on using Hitmonlee in OU.
|Nov 20th, 2011, 7:42:28 AM||#13|
Join Date: Nov 2011
You should do the same for gen 2 and 3, since the BL tier is there pretty big too.