Don't Waste EVs!

Sarenji · May 5th, 2007, 8:42:44 AM

This requires Java 1.5. Also contains Diamond/Pearl Pokémon - helpful for those of you who are making a Diamond/Pearl team.

http://www.geocities.com/xactcreations/FixEVs.htm (graciously hosted by X-Act!)

Please tell me if there are bugs or errors.

And please remember, this is not just an EV fixer! It allows you to calculate D/P Pokémon stats, as well.

The executable, offline version.
(.JAR file in a .ZIP file. Meaning, you still need Java. Also attached to this post.)

Screenshot:

X-Act · May 5th, 2007, 8:46:16 AM

Nice applet. And it works, too. :]

For those of you who don't have a clue as to what does this applet do, it fixes your EVs correctly so that you use your 510 EVs to their full potential.

Mastadi · May 5th, 2007, 8:49:28 AM

I found a bug, i think. I put hardy aerodactyl with 255 attack and speed, choose fix and insert, it turned my nature to jolly and.. made it have 154 (i think) speed and put rest in special attack >_>

Sarenji · May 5th, 2007, 8:55:33 AM

That's because the EV fixer makes you have exactly the same stats (give or take one or two), just with less EVs. A Jolly nature makes you save more EVs. It puts EVs into Special Attack because it is attaining the same stats, so you really saved more EVs.

WindScar · May 9th, 2007, 4:11:14 PM

Hey, great.
PS: insteat of just putting it in spatk, just show the ev's left...
PS2: downloadable version?
PS3: i got "your evs are fine" in every pokemon...
PS4: nice design.
PS5: there's no PS6.

ta11geese3 · May 9th, 2007, 8:54:38 PM

It would be nice if you could specify level... then you could use it to find ivs and stats given certain ev spreads etc for in game battling. The sites I use to find IVs don't really allow this as far as I know.

Aside from that though, what exactly is the point of it? To make sure your evs are divisible by 4?

Sarenji · May 9th, 2007, 10:02:05 PM

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Aside from that though, what exactly is the point of it? To make sure your evs are divisible by 4?

No, it sees if you are wasting EVs. For example, if you give Aerodactyl a Hardy Nature and 255 Speed EVs, the applet will save you 59 EVs - it will tell you to use Jolly, 124 Speed EVs, and 72 SpAtk EVs to achieve the same stats it would have had previously (just with less EVs), and since Aerodactyl doesn't need Special Attack, you really save 72 more EVs. I let it add SpAtk EVs just in case someone, perhaps for a different Pokémon, wants the same stats, just with less/fixed EVs.

You can also use this applet to find the EVs that you want for Diamond/Pearl Pokémon. L100, so far.

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It would be nice if you could specify level... then you could use it to find ivs and stats given certain ev spreads etc for in game battling. The sites I use to find IVs don't really allow this as far as I know.

Okay, I could do that later.

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PS: insteat of just putting it in spatk, just show the ev's left...

I don't understand that. What do you mean?

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PS2: downloadable version?

Nope, I wouldn't know how.

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PS3: i got "your evs are fine" in every pokemon...

Er, is it not supposed to?

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PS4: nice design.

Thanks.

Akayfortyseven · May 10th, 2007, 9:01:38 AM

Very useful applet. I would like an option to select Ivs for the stats though, since obviously ingame they wont always be flawless.

Sarenji · May 12th, 2007, 8:59:49 AM

Updated the applet for Level support. The level box's in the top-right corner. Just a notice: If you fix EVs on a lower level, you'll save more EVs because at lower levels, multiple EVs can lead to the same stat. This is not the case if you level it up to L100, though, since different EVs can no longer lead to the same stat.

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I would like an option to select Ivs for the stats though, since obviously ingame they wont always be flawless.

Can't you already? The "31" boxes are the IVs.

david stone · May 12th, 2007, 9:18:05 PM

GGFan, I have some good news.
"I'm getting unbanned from Smogon?"
No, I just saved a bunch of EVs on my Pokemon team!

QuickDraw · May 13th, 2007, 12:07:10 AM

hahaha, nice

after playing with this for a while i think its pretty awesome, definitely bookmarked.

Akayfortyseven · May 13th, 2007, 12:51:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sarenji

Updated the applet for Level support. The level box's in the top-right corner. Just a notice: If you fix EVs on a lower level, you'll save more EVs because at lower levels, multiple EVs can lead to the same stat. This is not the case if you level it up to L100, though, since different EVs can no longer lead to the same stat.

Can't you already? The "31" boxes are the IVs.

Oops. I was talking about X-Acts defence applet.

massi4h · May 20th, 2007, 9:42:36 PM

Yeah nice one. I used to help people all the time (on other forums) telling them they are wasting EVs due to nature. I've had people with pokemon that appear to have fine natures but then end up wasting 80 EVs.

***Mekkah***** · May 20th, 2007, 11:56:40 PM

X-Act Applet + Don't waste EVs applet + Magic Numbers Guide = Really good EV spreads! Good job!

Sarenji · May 31st, 2007, 5:55:20 PM

Made an executable, offline version of my EVs applet. (.JAR file zipped into a .ZIP file)

I've never worked with .jars before, so do tell me if there are problems with anything. Updated the top of this thread with a screenshot, because I really don't want people to think this is "just an EV fixer".

Sir Spanky · May 31st, 2007, 7:23:14 PM

Works just as good as the online version, which is great.

Also I'm not actually currently using this for EV fixing, but moreso for finding out exact stat points for my ingame team! Currently this is the only place available that can customise D/P pogeys (like netbattle can), so I can work out how many EV's my Azelf with 29 Speed IV needs to reach X speed etc.

Very useful :>

Marauder Artemis · May 31st, 2007, 8:59:11 PM

the offline one is good =D

also, like spanky mentioned, helpful for finding what evs are needed for this stat point with a particular iv, etc

Impetus · Jun 1st, 2007, 12:01:12 AM

Thank you for this applet =]. This is extremely helpful, seeing as how I used a very complicated formula to determine how many EVs I needed for the new pokemon if using a +nature and such.

Forretress · Jun 16th, 2007, 12:20:02 AM

This is very useful and I really appreciate the time you spent making it! However, I did notice one bug (I think) when EV training my team recently. It seems that the base Speed stat used for Cresselia is incorrect.

I entered my Calm Cresselia's speed IV of 21 and EVs of 0, and it said its speed at level 100 is 176. However, it's actually 196. I double checked with Serebii's calculator, and it agreed with my 196 number. I was using the online version, btw

Just thought you might want to know this...

Sarenji · Jun 16th, 2007, 9:19:44 AM

Thanks for that! It seems that I had an incorrect base Speed for Cresselia - 75 instead of 85. It's fixed now for both versions.

If you find any other errors for base stat stuff like these, please tell me so I can fix it ASAP!

GTS · Jun 21st, 2007, 3:52:20 PM

What Java do I need?

It's only showing up as a red x, but I know I have some form of Java...

Sarenji · Jun 21st, 2007, 3:57:04 PM

You need at least Java version 1.5.

david stone · Jun 21st, 2007, 4:16:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sarenji

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Originally Posted by Fat WindScar

PS: insteat of just putting it in spatk, just show the ev's left...

I don't understand that. What do you mean?

He means why put the extra EVs into Special Attack, implying it should know his Aerodactyl isn't using any special attacks.

Cerivious · Jul 20th, 2007, 9:42:39 AM

Tiny bug, Deoxys FR's SA shows as 284 when I maxed the EVs and put Modest. It should be 504 (180 Base).

tayottt · Jul 20th, 2007, 4:03:02 PM

Good to see you sarenji, Good job.

May 5th, 2007, 8:46:16 AM	#2
X-Act np: Biffy Clyro - Shock Shock Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,679 Malta	Nice applet. And it works, too. :] For those of you who don't have a clue as to what does this applet do, it fixes your EVs correctly so that you use your 510 EVs to their full potential. __________________ http://users.smogon.com/X-Act For all your Pokemon needs (and more!) including: the Defensive EVs applet, the Probabilities of Breeding IVs in Pokemon applet, and the Ratings of Pokemon Base Stats applet (now Version 2.0!). And also the IV to PID applet!

May 5th, 2007, 8:49:28 AM	#3
Mastadi Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,392	I found a bug, i think. I put hardy aerodactyl with 255 attack and speed, choose fix and insert, it turned my nature to jolly and.. made it have 154 (i think) speed and put rest in special attack >_> __________________ free piglet

May 5th, 2007, 8:55:33 AM	#4
Sarenji leaf-faced Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 362 Tristram	That's because the EV fixer makes you have exactly the same stats (give or take one or two), just with less EVs. A Jolly nature makes you save more EVs. It puts EVs into Special Attack because it is attaining the same stats, so you really saved more EVs. __________________ bracketmaker \| diff \| fixevs \| art

May 9th, 2007, 4:11:14 PM	#5
WindScar Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 104	Hey, great. PS: insteat of just putting it in spatk, just show the ev's left... PS2: downloadable version? PS3: i got "your evs are fine" in every pokemon... PS4: nice design. PS5: there's no PS6. __________________ I'm not an english native speaker so I can't speak it very well. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I hope you understand my posts. Last edited by WindScar; May 9th, 2007 at 4:21:17 PM.

May 9th, 2007, 8:54:38 PM	#6
ta11geese3 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 56	It would be nice if you could specify level... then you could use it to find ivs and stats given certain ev spreads etc for in game battling. The sites I use to find IVs don't really allow this as far as I know. Aside from that though, what exactly is the point of it? To make sure your evs are divisible by 4? Last edited by ta11geese3; May 9th, 2007 at 8:57:02 PM.

May 10th, 2007, 9:01:38 AM	#8
Akayfortyseven Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,146 United Kingdom	Very useful applet. I would like an option to select Ivs for the stats though, since obviously ingame they wont always be flawless. __________________

May 12th, 2007, 9:18:05 PM	#10
david stone Fast-moving, smart, sexy and alarming. Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,152	GGFan, I have some good news. "I'm getting unbanned from Smogon?" No, I just saved a bunch of EVs on my Pokemon team! __________________ Previously obi. Technical Machine, a Pokemon AI. "Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." - Sun Tzu

May 13th, 2007, 12:07:10 AM	#11
QuickDraw Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,473 good bye blue sky	hahaha, nice after playing with this for a while i think its pretty awesome, definitely bookmarked. __________________ Robotman!!: WHAT THE APE SHIT ICE CREAM BALLS IS GOING ON HERE? LoveHamster: La la la! Robotman!!: STOP IGNORING ME YOU ASS SANDWICH MURDER FIENDS!

May 20th, 2007, 9:42:36 PM	#13
massi4h Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 857 Auckland, New Zealand	Yeah nice one. I used to help people all the time (on other forums) telling them they are wasting EVs due to nature. I've had people with pokemon that appear to have fine natures but then end up wasting 80 EVs. __________________ Suicune Bold: 28/22/27/29/1/23 and much more including many dittos. Just added 4 new Dittos including: Quiet: 19/24/20/20/14/0 (Ultimate Trick Room breeder). Modest Ditto: 7/4/25/30/20/30 (HP Fighting/HP with 30 in Spd/SATK breeder) Store is closed. FC: 2148 4722 0731

May 20th, 2007, 11:56:40 PM	#14
*Mekkah* pfbwowbfobwobwobfwowbf Administrator** Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,835 Most of them are good	X-Act Applet + Don't waste EVs applet + Magic Numbers Guide = Really good EV spreads! Good job! __________________ onions videos cameras models steroids dinoturtlethings

May 31st, 2007, 5:55:20 PM	#15
Sarenji leaf-faced Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 362 Tristram	Made an executable, offline version of my EVs applet. (.JAR file zipped into a .ZIP file) I've never worked with .jars before, so do tell me if there are problems with anything. Updated the top of this thread with a screenshot, because I really don't want people to think this is "just an EV fixer". __________________ bracketmaker \| diff \| fixevs \| art

May 31st, 2007, 7:23:14 PM	#16
Sir Spanky Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,794 England	Works just as good as the online version, which is great. Also I'm not actually currently using this for EV fixing, but moreso for finding out exact stat points for my ingame team! Currently this is the only place available that can customise D/P pogeys (like netbattle can), so I can work out how many EV's my Azelf with 29 Speed IV needs to reach X speed etc. Very useful :> __________________ :amusing quote:

May 31st, 2007, 8:59:11 PM	#17
Marauder Artemis Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 910 USA	the offline one is good =D also, like spanky mentioned, helpful for finding what evs are needed for this stat point with a particular iv, etc

Jun 1st, 2007, 12:01:12 AM	#18
Impetus Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 366 Cali	Thank you for this applet =]. This is extremely helpful, seeing as how I used a very complicated formula to determine how many EVs I needed for the new pokemon if using a +nature and such. __________________ Skill is when Luck becomes a Habit.

Jun 16th, 2007, 12:20:02 AM	#19
Forretress Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 48	This is very useful and I really appreciate the time you spent making it! However, I did notice one bug (I think) when EV training my team recently. It seems that the base Speed stat used for Cresselia is incorrect. I entered my Calm Cresselia's speed IV of 21 and EVs of 0, and it said its speed at level 100 is 176. However, it's actually 196. I double checked with Serebii's calculator, and it agreed with my 196 number. I was using the online version, btw Just thought you might want to know this...

Jun 16th, 2007, 9:19:44 AM	#20
Sarenji leaf-faced Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 362 Tristram	Thanks for that! It seems that I had an incorrect base Speed for Cresselia - 75 instead of 85. It's fixed now for both versions. If you find any other errors for base stat stuff like these, please tell me so I can fix it ASAP! __________________ bracketmaker \| diff \| fixevs \| art Last edited by Sarenji; Jun 16th, 2007 at 9:37:40 AM. Reason: Online version now working.

Jun 21st, 2007, 3:52:20 PM	#21
GTS Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,133 G0IN G0LD	What Java do I need? It's only showing up as a red x, but I know I have some form of Java...

Jun 21st, 2007, 3:57:04 PM	#22
Sarenji leaf-faced Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 362 Tristram	You need at least Java version 1.5. __________________ bracketmaker \| diff \| fixevs \| art

Jul 20th, 2007, 9:42:39 AM	#24
Cerivious Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 751	Tiny bug, Deoxys FR's SA shows as 284 when I maxed the EVs and put Modest. It should be 504 (180 Base).

Jul 20th, 2007, 4:03:02 PM	#25
tayottt Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 248 In my workplace	Good to see you sarenji, Good job.