ILLEGAL MOVESETS

Vein · Dec 29th, 2011, 1:59:35 AM

I've been looking for this in smogon but can't find any.. is there a way to list all illegal combinations of movesets/abilities of a certain poke? this is a good reference for team building for newcomers and seasoned players alike.

Metal Bagon · Dec 29th, 2011, 2:35:50 AM

On Pokemon Online, it tells you if you have an illegal move set/ability and doesn't let you use the pokemon in battles. So no problem there.

If you're using pokesav (or any other device like it for that matter), whether it's legal a move set or not you're hacking. And hacked pokemon aren't allowed on smogon on last time I checked.

Even if this hypothetical list was made, couldn't you answer whatever question you had with a google search? Just throwing that out there. Anyway, hopefully this has been helpful.

**NixHex** · Dec 29th, 2011, 2:58:39 AM

For the time being, use http://veekun.com

Don't always trust Pokemon Online's Team Builder, since some move legalities must be hard coded to work. For example, Moxie + Outrage Salamence is still illegal and must be implemented in the next version (unless I'm horribly mistaken?) In short, don't trust a simulator's team builder, use the internet).

Stuff like this should probably be asked in the Simple Questions / Simple Answers.

eric the espeon · Dec 29th, 2011, 6:43:57 AM

You're horribly mistaken :p. There are a couple of very corner case situations where PO's teambuilder is known to be inaccurate (some specific four move combinations for evolve-with-move pokemon, though that may have been solved without me noticing), but otherwise it's by far the best/easiest to use you'll find (unless there is a 5th gen version of this I'm missing?). Veekun sadly is a poor source of move legality info since it lacks one of the main sources of illegal moves, event and special moves.

**NixHex** · Dec 29th, 2011, 10:52:37 AM

I stand corrected on both counts, do what eric said!

Great Sage · Dec 29th, 2011, 11:46:12 AM

It's also not too hard to figure out for yourself whether a moveset is illegal, if you must take that approach.

Dec 29th, 2011, 1:59:35 AM	#1
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Dec 29th, 2011, 2:58:39 AM	#3
NixHex Queens of the Stone Edge Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,145 The desert Mentor	For the time being, use http://veekun.com Don't always trust Pokemon Online's Team Builder, since some move legalities must be hard coded to work. For example, Moxie + Outrage Salamence is still illegal and must be implemented in the next version (unless I'm horribly mistaken?) In short, don't trust a simulator's team builder, use the internet). Stuff like this should probably be asked in the Simple Questions / Simple Answers. __________________ Pokemon Crystal breeds: Porygon (15/15/15/15/11) (full stat exp.) Lv 100 Alakazam (15/x/15/15/15) (full stat exp.) Lv 100 Starmie(15/x/15/15/15) (full stat exp.) Lv 100

Dec 29th, 2011, 6:43:57 AM	#4
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	You're horribly mistaken :p. There are a couple of very corner case situations where PO's teambuilder is known to be inaccurate (some specific four move combinations for evolve-with-move pokemon, though that may have been solved without me noticing), but otherwise it's by far the best/easiest to use you'll find (unless there is a 5th gen version of this I'm missing?). Veekun sadly is a poor source of move legality info since it lacks one of the main sources of illegal moves, event and special moves. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Dec 29th, 2011, 10:52:37 AM	#5
NixHex Queens of the Stone Edge Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,145 The desert Mentor	I stand corrected on both counts, do what eric said! __________________ Pokemon Crystal breeds: Porygon (15/15/15/15/11) (full stat exp.) Lv 100 Alakazam (15/x/15/15/15) (full stat exp.) Lv 100 Starmie(15/x/15/15/15) (full stat exp.) Lv 100

Dec 29th, 2011, 2:35:50 AM	#2
Metal Bagon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,671	On Pokemon Online, it tells you if you have an illegal move set/ability and doesn't let you use the pokemon in battles. So no problem there. If you're using pokesav (or any other device like it for that matter), whether it's legal a move set or not you're hacking. And hacked pokemon aren't allowed on smogon on last time I checked. Even if this hypothetical list was made, couldn't you answer whatever question you had with a google search? Just throwing that out there. Anyway, hopefully this has been helpful.

Dec 29th, 2011, 11:46:12 AM	#6
Great Sage Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,875 Boston, MA	It's also not too hard to figure out for yourself whether a moveset is illegal, if you must take that approach.