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Dec 24th, 2011, 7:40:13 PM
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Heya, first time poster here. I'm Ash (no, seriously, my name is Ash) and I've played pokemon on and off since gen 1, though I only recently got in to the Battle Subway and making competitive pokemon (though I've never had a battle with another person yet).
I've been breeding tons of pokemon for the subway and really enjoy making up different teams to play with. My fav pokemon for the subway is timid Gengar @ focus sash as lead, thanks to destiny bond he can 2 for 1 most teams leaving me with major advantage. My other favorite is jolly Infernape @ focus sash with Fake Out, Close Combat, U-turn and Flare Blitz. Fake Out is an epic move which lets me check if I can kill their pokemon with a Close Combat. Close Combat's cost goes away if I U-turn as well which is handy (and if I U-turn out and swap in later, I can Fake out again, gotta love recycling free damage). With Infernape's Blaze ability, if I get sash'ed to 1 HP, Flare Blitz become really damn powerful and can kill most opponents. Usually I run this with bulky pokemon that cover Infernape's weaknesses so I don't take much damage upon swapping in with u-turn (such as Ferrothorn, Garchomp, etc). Okay, on to my streak and team  The member of my team were - Volcorona (Nickname Pending) @ Focus Sash Flame Body Modest EVs:6/0/0/252/0/252 Fiery Dance Quiver Dance Physic Bug Buzz Awesome lead that can sweep teams if it can get off a Quiver Dance or can luck in to a boost from Fiery Dance. Physic is there to get rid of Fighting threats to my team like Conkeldurr and Machamp. Ferrothorn (Auntie Dot) @ Leftovers Iron Barbs Impish 255/0/100/0/155/0 (I was a noob when I made this guy, thats why the EVs are off) Toxic Power Whip Leech Seed Protect I know, its a bit of a different built to most of the Ferrothorns I've seen posted on this thread, but I like it. Leech Seed is the move I primarily use, as well as Protect for scouting and effectivly doubling the effects of leftovers, leech seed and toxic. Power Whip is there for killing water types, who can otherwise mess up my team. Covers Chomp's Ice weakness and Volcorona's rock/water weakness. Garchomp (Chompers) @ Life Orb Sand Veil Jolly 6/252/0/0/0/252 Outrage Fire Fang Earthquake Stone Edge Pretty basic build for a Chomp, covers Ferrothorn's fire weakness and Volcorona's rock weakness Overall its a decent team, I mostly built it because I had just finished making up a Volcorona and wanted to test it out, he was better than I thought, though the rock weakness can be quite an annoyance. Right now I'm trying to come up with a good team using a Gengar lead. I've put Garchomp in too and recently made a Metagross which is quite fun to play with (I'm a giant fan of any pokemon with a priority, and on a Metagross it is quite powerful). Any suggestions for a Gengar team or the Volcorona team would be greatly appreciated. :) -- Haha, managed to get a slightly higher streak the day after i posted about my first streak. Gengar @ Focus Sash Levitate Timid 6/0/0/252/0/252 Shadow Ball Energy Ball Thunder Bolt Destiny Bond Garchomp (Chompers) @ Life Orb Sand Veil Jolly 6/252/0/0/0/252 Outrage Fire Fang Earthquake Stone Edge Metagross @ Leftovers Clear Body Adamant 252/252/6/0/0/0 Meteor Mash Bullet Punch Zen Headbutt Brick Break  Sorry, its a bit hard to see as my laptop's webcam isn't that good, but it's a 98 streak. Mostly was trying Metagross out, to be honest, he isn't even that good, just a tank pokemon with good typing that has a priority. Considering trying it with Wide Lens because I had some problems with Meteor Mash and Zen Headbutt missing. How I lost - Battle VS Nurse Saisune Nurse Saisune sends out Cryogonal Meep sends out Gengar Meep recalls Gengar, Meep sends out Metagross Cryogonal used Icy Wind, its not very effective Metagross recovers with leftovers (on 169/180 hp) Cryogonal used Hail, it started to hail Metagross used Meteor Mash, it was super effective Cryogonal hung on with Focus Sash Metagross is buffeted by the hail Metagross recovers with Leftovers Metagross used Bullet Punch Cryogonal fainted Metagross is buffeted by the hail Metagross recovers with Leftovers Nurse Saisune sends out Marowak This is where I made a mistake and didn't swap out to Gengar, I thought Metagross could survive a Ground move, apparently not. Marowak used Earthquake, its super effective Metagross fainted Marowak is buffeted by the hail Meep sends out Chompers Chompers used Outrage (Marowak is like on like 1 HP) Marowak used Outrage, its super effective (fffuuuuuuu-) Chompers fainted Marowak is buffeted by the hail Marowak fainted Meep sends out Gengar Nurse Saisune sends out Emboar Gengar used Shadow Ball (does about 3/5) Emboar used Substitute Emboar's Salac Berry raised it's speed (cry) Emboar made a substitute The hail stopped Emboar used Flamethrower Gengar hung on with Focus Sash Gengar used Shadow Ball Emboar's substitute faded Emboar used Flamethrower Meep lost the game. Aw well, I didn't quite make it to 100 (which was my goal), but I got pretty damn close with 98, perhaps next time. Last edited by M E E P; Dec 25th, 2011 at 7:20:40 PM. Reason: Muffin Button. Oh, and spelling errors. Now apparently a better streak :) |
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Dec 27th, 2011, 7:47:00 AM
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Time to create a new team, I'm mad at previous one... Damned Froslass outspeeding everything.
Staraptor locked into Close Combat after killing Dewgong switch to Scizor - Blizzard hits, freeze Shadow Ball, SDef fell - frozen solid Blizzard hits - frozen solid Destiny Bond fail - frozen solid Destiny Bond fail - frozen solid Shadow Ball, SDef fell - frozen solid Destiny Bond fail - frozen solid Blizzard hits - frozen solid Blizzard hits - dead yay, another almost 70, previous ended thanks to Zapdos crithaxing Latios with Signal Beam exactly when I faced worst possible match up for my team and Latios was my only hope. I'll beat 100 someday with those three :P Idea of Trick Scarf -> cripple -> set up doesn't suit me so I'll look for another three sweepers with synergy. I'll probably start with Volcarona as I simply love its design. |
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Dec 27th, 2011, 5:23:45 PM
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Aright, after struggling in the Super Singles Subway and trying him out holy shit Cloyster is amazing. I've been using a mixed set with a Naive nature and Surf and it kills the entire enemy team off 4 times out of 5. The only thing that really throws him for a loop is priority and random status hax. This thing finally netted me a victory over the super single's master, the Gold Trainer card, and enough BP to finally buy the last of the TMs.
If you're someone mildly interested in the Battle Subway for the TMs / trainer cards try him out! I thought Garchomp was a monster but DAMN, this little clam is awesome!
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Dec 28th, 2011, 4:09:46 AM
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I started playing a bit again in Single Subway, using a very unexciting team of:
Whimsicott / Prankster / Careful @ Focus Sash - Taunt / Charm / Worry Seed / Memento Uxie / Bold / Levitate @ Choice Scarf - Trick / Stealth Rock / Thunderwave / Memento Dragonite / Adamant / Multiscale @ Leftovers - Dragon Dance / Substitute / Roost / Dragon Claw Not very far right now (56 I think)... I'll see how far it goes... ... Only annoying things so far are U-Turns, Volt Switches, and Explosions. Haven't had any Head Smash leads yet, but I imagine it'd be a bit hard to deal with that too should that occur. |
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Dec 30th, 2011, 10:32:25 PM
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np: Michael Jackson - 'Mon in the Mirror (Dream World mix off the "Black or White" album)
      
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Hi all, happy new year etc. maybe one of you can resolve to break my record in the new year because I just lost"!". On a plane to Phoenix, first time I've played since I posted the record, battle 376 Black Belt Enpi leads with Magnezone. Now the iPhone I'm typing this up on was off (coz aeroplane), and I had a feeling it would cost me, but that's about as much of a fuck as I gave/give (I'm not posting a picture btw "why"). First four battles were cake and my new 3ds that I was playing on was telling me that my battery was low, even though Mario Kart 7 (a real 3ds game unlike Pokemon white) was saying I was fine. More the reason to turn it off after winning three or four battles, but eh.
Anyway, I was using Whimsicott/Dragonite/Mesprit, if anyone needs a refresher. Taunt, Flash Cannon takes me to 80/136, and here's where my lack of fucks given cost me I guess. If I had any fucks to give, I would have checked the list, since my intricate knowledge of all the Subway pokes has deteriorated a little from this summer. I wouldn't have Mementoed a Volt Switch threat, and may have gotten in Dragonite in a little earlier when the decrepit Forretress that only knows Explosion as an attacking move started doing stuff Dragonite doesn't care about. I was able to Charm it to the point that its eventual boom did not break Draggy's sub (which surprised me at the time about as much as Forty using boom in the first place did). Alas, I was only at +1, which didn't look to be enough to 3hko Zone (something I calc with a higher number of fucks given about the Subway), so obviously when I'm naked against its locked TB, it paralyzes the effectively 4x-resist Dragon. And obviously pares Mesprit on the switch back from my 100% HP Draggy so I can't paralyze it myself...Draggy's eventual fp is a mere formality at that point, and all I really care about is why I even bothered to play again lol. 4.5 hour flight and I was tired of grinding up coins in Kart to unlock shit I guess? Maybe this will motivate Peterko or someone to care about shooting for the singles record (again), cause that's was clearly (to me, anyway) what caused the loss in my fifth battle since this summer more than fucking Magnezone, lol. It's hard to put into words what that feels like to those who don't have an ide, but for some reason the closest example would be a 90's Chicago Bulls team that had just won the championship. Granted, they 3peated twice, but Jordan said repeatedly that moving himself and his teammates was the toughest thing to do after raising a championship banner. Unfortunately for me his team was allowed to lose a battle or two early in a season! Have fun, kids–I've been catching up on this thread slowly but surely since my break started and I obviously missed "this" enough to play even when my heart wasn't really in it. "Maybe I'll try doubles", with the theorymon I did with that this summer when I was trying to find the best speed singles team and best efficient one. Doubt it though cause Kart is fun as hell (though annoying in its own right, fuck Blue Shells when you're gliding over a cliff so much). edit Chinese Dood lol. just lol that you would just have posted that team and mentioned Volt Switch and Explosion.
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Dec 31st, 2011, 3:35:12 AM
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peterko hasnt updated the list for a month now.... I wanna see my name on the list!
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(16:03:26) *** Your rank in Standard OU is 2/56511 [1701 points / 84 battles]! OH YES. |
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Dec 31st, 2011, 6:08:36 AM
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Never give up!
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Updated the list
Post here (in this topic) if I made any mistakes or forgot someone. Sorry Nickscor for missspelling your nick on the last update, but guys please don´t send me PMs or post visitor messages if I make mistakes. After each update, I always explicitly say to post any mistakes in this topic. Ripamon don´t be such a baby, you could´ve saved yourself the time you posted about me not updating the records list. I do update it regulary, once per month in average. The last update was on Dec. 12th, which is only 19 days ago, not "a month". Plus your record´s like #40, anyway ._. Sorry kid31, you didn´t make the list. Seeing as there´s already 50 people in the Super Singles list, I´ve just decided that 50 people will be the cut. Seems like you can continue your 70 streak anyway and if you win a few more battles, post again. I´ll post a few more comments later...
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Dec 31st, 2011, 8:23:16 AM
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Thanks for the update.:).I think its easy to moan, but less common to actually show gratitude that something you'd like has been done. So I'd like to thank you :)
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(16:03:26) *** Your rank in Standard OU is 2/56511 [1701 points / 84 battles]! OH YES. |
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Dec 31st, 2011, 10:12:55 AM
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np: Michael Jackson - 'Mon in the Mirror (Dream World mix off the "Black or White" album)
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Haha oops now I feel dumb I hadn't read to see if my record had been broken "recently", that's how out of the loop I am, thanks business school! I think I was two pages from finding out myself, and I would have been aiming to retake my record the second I knew (and I think it's fair to say I wouldn't have been playing battle 376 yesterday in "no fucks given" mode like two full months after my record had been broken if I had known). Congrats to Mercury, nice work! Gives me something to shoot for on vacation next week :)
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Dec 31st, 2011, 10:18:36 AM
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sometimes experimentation begins with "let's multi battle strip pokémon"
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Dec 31st, 2011, 11:05:56 AM
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np: Michael Jackson - 'Mon in the Mirror (Dream World mix off the "Black or White" album)
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Nah, connecting flight, I'm in LA right now for New Year's...
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Dec 31st, 2011, 1:47:01 PM
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Never give up!
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Here you go, my friends :)
It was long overdue, but as promised, I´ve added last generation records to the first post. Took me about 7 hours to update and revamp the whole thing. P A R T 2 : Platinum, HeartGold & SoulSilver Battle Frontier Records, Diamond & Pearl Battle Tower Records Link to the original topic in Stark Mountain
SECTION 1: Single Battle Mode Records
SECTION 2: Double Battle Mode Records
SECTION 3: Wi-Fi Battle Mode Records
SECTION 4: Multi Battle Mode Records
SECTION 5: Link Battle Mode Records
That was a tough loss Jump, even the best players often lose after a longer break due to misplay. I´m not sure if I ever play Subway Super Singles again, I mean I only got above 49 with one team (Latias-Registeel-Garchomp). I focus(ed) on Super Doubles, the official tourneys are also doubles. I like doubles more, personally. Nonetheless, good to see you back. Good luck in 2012 everyone!
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Jan 1st, 2012, 12:36:30 AM
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Nice update! Although I never really played the 4th gen facilities seriously (I was content to just get the gold symbols, which I eventually did), I do enjoy reading about everyone's experiences.
However, I do have one streak from 4th gen (I did this long before BW came out): Platinum Battle Factory Singles (Lv 50): 58
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I don't think people care much about the factory, mainly because it's a crapshoot, but I really love it. It's just great fun. It took me over a year of on again off again playing to get the symbol though, and then I decided to just keep going. I got to know the pokemon very well since I was using the same ones over and over again. It got to the point where I could figure out the exact moves the opponent ran, which helped me do better (doesn't stop hax and counter-team loses though). Let's see if I can remember how this went: 36-42: I was carried through by this: 832 | Heracross | Jolly | Salac Berry | Megahorn | Earthquake | Reversal | Endure | Atk/Spe This is insane... so long as the opponent has no priority users. Very easy to set up on the stupid AI and once Salac is eaten the opponent is at the mercy of a full-power Reversal and a Swarm-boosted Megahorn! Can't remember what else I used, but I don't think they did anything. 43-49: By sheer fluke I got the same Heracross! However, I rarely ever used it because the battles were easy and I didn't need to. At one point I was using a lead Jolteon, but then I was told that the factory head was specialised in Ground types. I swapped it for an Ambipom. It's weak but it had Seed Bomb so it was better than Jolteon at least. My team at the end: 665 | Ambipom | Adamant | Life Orb | Double Hit | Gunk Shot | Seed Bomb | Aerial Ace | Atk/Spe 849 | Gliscor | Adamant | Expert Belt | Earthquake | Aerial Ace | X-Scissor | Stone Edge | Atk/Def (I think it was this one?) 832 | Heracross | Jolly | Salac Berry | Megahorn | Earthquake | Reversal | Endure | Atk/Spe The factory head's team: 427 | Donphan | Impish | Razor Claw | Earthquake | Rock Slide | Poison Jab | Sandstorm | Atk/Def 396 | Rhydon | Adamant | Passho Berry | Earthquake | Rock Slide | Crunch | Scary Face | Atk/Def 363 | Dugtrio | Jolly | Grip Claw | Earthquake | Rock Slide | Astonish | Sand Tomb | Atk/Spe Good thing I dumped Jolteon. In fact, this team can't do anything the Gliscor really. As for the battle, Ambipom did less than 50% to Donphan before being OHKOed. Gliscor then spammed Earthquake while they did weak damage with their rock attacks. So yeah, this was easy but I was glad to get the symbol. 50-56: Got decent choices here. Ultimately went with Swampert/Drifblim/Ninetales. Drifblim was swapped for Gliscor, who in turn was swapped for Machamp. Final team: 359 | Swampert | Adamant | Shell Bell | Waterfall | Earthquake | Ice Punch | Protect | HP/Atk 843 | Machamp | Adamant | Quick Claw | Cross Chop | Earthquake | ThunderPunch | Fire Punch | HP/Atk 842 | Ninetales | Modest | Passho Berry | Flamethrower | Extrasensory | Energy Ball | Calm Mind | SpA/Spe Swampert was a good lead because it was self-sufficient, and Protect was great for trying to figure out what set the opponent was running. Ninetales wasn't amazing but it was able to set up and sweep a few times (one example was when Swampert died to Torterra's Frenzy Plant). Machamp didn't do much but it saved me in one battle (I played badly against a Counter-Sash Houndoom I believe). 57-59: Choices were horrible! Went with Miltank/Yanmega/Bronzong. Yanmega was dumped for Moltres and Miltank left for Espeon when I found out the opponent was using fighting-types. The final team was: 455 | Espeon | Timid | Lum Berry | Psychic | Reflect | Calm Mind | Baton Pass | SpA/Spe 911 | Moltres | Timid | Heat Rock | Fire Blast | SolarBeam | Hyper Beam | Sunny Day | HP/SpA 703 | Bronzong | Modest | Leftovers | Psychic | Shadow Ball | Charge Beam | Signal Beam | HP/SpA Not my ideal team but it seemed ok given I was facing at least 2 fighting types. Espeon provided a fast Psychic, Moltres resisted fire and was just powerful in general and Bronzong, while weak, was bulky and had a super-effective STAB. How I lost: I send out Espeon, Battle Girl Mariane sends out Rapidash (-_-) I use Reflect, Rapidash uses Flare Blitz for over 50% damage I Psychic, Rapidash uses Flare Blitz, both of us are dead I send out Moltres, Mariane sends out Gallade I use Fire Blast (about 50% damage), Gallade uses Thunder Wave Gallade uses Confuse Ray, I hurt myself I withdraw Moltres for Bronzong, Gallade uses Brick Break (Reflect broken, 130hp left leftovers) Gallade uses Brick Break (84hp with leftovers, I use Shadow Ball (Kasib Berry reduces damage so it doesn't do much) Gallade uses Brick Break (38hp with leftovers, I use Shadow Ball, Gallade dead Mariane sends out Machamp Machamp uses Fire Punch, Bronzong dead I send out (paralyzed) Moltres Machamp uses Thunderpunch (69hp), I use Fire Blast (about 70% damage) Machamp uses Thunderpunch, Moltres dead 0-1 Remember how I dumped Miltank? Bad choice seeing as it had Thick Fat! Wouldn't have done much against the rest of Mariane's team though. Probably shouldn't have let Espeon die like that (or even set up Reflect), but I though Psychic would be strong enough to finish Rapidash off. I also let Moltres get parafused, but I wasn't using moveset lists at the time so I had no idea it would do that. Meh... I also have another good but not great doubles streak for 5th gen. Subway Super Doubles: 89  Garchomp @ life orb Jolly ivs: 31/31/31/x/31/31 evs: 0/252/0/0/4/252 stats: 183/182/115/90/106/169 Sand Veil Earthquake Rock Slide Dragon Claw Protect  Azelf @ focus sash Timid ivs: 31/x/31/31/31/31 evs: 4/0/0/252/0/252 stats: 151/122/90/177/90/183 Levitate Psychic Flamethrower Thunderbolt Taunt  Scizor @ steel gem Adamant IVs:31/31/31/8/31/31 EVs: 252/252/0/0/0/6 Stats: 177/200/120/57/100/86 Techician Bullet Punch Bug Bite Superpower Protect  Gyarados @ wacan berry Adamant IVs:31/31/31/x/31/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/4/252 Stats: 170/194/99/60/121/133 Intimidate Waterfall Earthquake Ice Fang Protect Got the idea from ashez's team. Garchomp and Azelf are made for each other. The general strategy is to have Azelf hit something hard into Garchomp's KO range and then have Garchomp finish it off. I gave Garchomp life orb because it needs the power boost for its spread attacks. Azelf's Focus Sash saves it from Sucker Punch and other powerful attacks aiming for its poor defences. I use Taunt to stop Trick Room because the strategy is annoying to face (though I may try it out myself). I didn't want to use Scizor AGAIN but it's too good to pass up. It covers my leads weaknesses, it can take a friendly fire Earthquake if necessary and it deals with Trick Room and Hail decently. However, I have to be careful when throwing out Earthquakes in Scizors presence though, as this battle shows:
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That battle was fairly ridiculous. Archeops and Leafeon toyed with me with Protect and Quick Claw. Next, Garchomp kills Scizor with a crit, allowing Exeggutor to Trick Room. Just when I thought I'd lost, Exeggutor Explodes and I win on a mere mechanics quirk. This battle did have me seriously considering re-eving Scizor though. 252hp/144att/108def/4speed guanrantees that it survives an Earthquake crit. However, given that it results in a significant power drop, along with the low chance of it occurring, I decided not to. I just try to avoid the situation. I've tried to use Gyarados on teams before but was underwhelmed by it. However, its Ground immunity, resistances and intimidate are useful. Probably the most expendable team member, but it works. Latios and Latias are the biggest threats to this team, though Legendary teams in general are annoying. One crit is all that's needed to end a streak (it has happened many times, once was a Draco Meteor crit on Garchomp from a -6 Latios, another was 2 consecutive Stone Edge crits from Terrakion). I lost to a fighting team because I wasn't aware that Wide Guard continued to work even if the user died during the same turn. Meinshao used Wide Guard, Azelf killed it, Garchomp's Earthquake failed and it was all down hill from there. Finally, I tried a sand team out with Stoutland instead of Excadrill, just to see how it would go:  Stoutland @ Choice Band Return Wild Charge Fire Fang Ice Fang It doesn't have much merit over Excadrill, who is much more powerful. However, CB Return hurts (I believe it OHKOs anything non-resistant with a defence rating of about 40 from twash's tables). Wild Charge is good for waters, Fire Fang is good for Bug/Steels and Ice Fang is good for Dragons, but Return is what you use the most. Stoutlands main issue is its lack of a powerful STAB spread move. I was using it as a lead though. Maybe it'll work better as a backup. Well that post was long so I'll go now haha. I'm thinking of reviving my rain team, or maybe doing a trick room one. We'll see.
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Jan 2nd, 2012, 1:54:19 PM
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There two great pokes to start with, good luck :)
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Jan 3rd, 2012, 3:34:23 PM
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I have not been playing a whole lot either. Just a set of 7 here and there.
I didn't follow through with my (slightly boring) Whimsicott-Uxie-Dragonite team either. I ended up randomly playing a few sets of 7 the past couple days and is sitting at 84 streak in Single Subway with this team: Suicune / Pressure / Bold @ Leftovers - Scald / Calm Mind / Substitute / Rest Metagross / Clear Body / Jolly @ Life Orb - Ice Punch / Earthquake / Bullet Punch / Explosion Gliscor / Poison Heal / Impish @ Toxic Orb - Toxic / Earthquake / Substitute / Protect Explanation: - The most awesome thing about this team is probably... that it was just totally slapped on quickly. It was just a matter of: --> Suicune provides fire resistance for Metagross and ice and water resistance for Gliscor --> Metagross provides ice resistance for Gliscor and Grass resistance for Suicune (though Suicune can take care of a whole lot of grass types by itself). --> Gliscor provides ground immunity for Metagross and electric immunity for Suicune. That said, team does horribly against Gengar that have thunderbolt... usually means either losing a pokemon or having 2 fairly hurt. I thought Ferrothorn would be a problem, but Suicune or Gliscor can usually actually stall it out of attack PP. And just to note... probably about 80%+ of the battles so far don't include Metagross. Suicune or Gliscor usually do the job. Sometimes I include it just to explode on opponent's last pokemon. Anything that is susceptible to Toxic, not able to break Gliscor's sub, and does not have rest (quite a few in subway) means Gliscor will have a sub up against the opponent's next pokemon (which will also lose against Gliscor if it does not have rest and is susceptible to Toxic). So Gliscor single-handedly wins plenty of battles. The last battle I had I still had all 3 pokemon vs opponent's last pokemon Claydol, and Gliscor was out in battle at 100% health poisoned. I figured it might be the Claydol with ice beam, but didn't really care. Toxic missed and Claydol indeed ice beams Gliscor for about 80%-ish damage. I could switch to Suicune or Metagross for a quick and easy battle (or even just let Gliscor faint for safe switch in), but I decided to just stall it out of ice beam PP with protect and sub, and then proceeded to Toxic it to death. Another earlier battle involved double team Tornadus (Sub/Hurricane/Focus Blast/DT)... Gliscor Toxic missed 3 times before Tornadus decided to put up a Sub. Gliscor easily stalled it out of PPs (well, I actually switched Suicune in to pressure take the last 2 PPs of Focus Blast), and then Suicune set up for sweep. I'm a bit surprised to see it go so far, but then again Suicune is amazing, and Gliscor makes a fairly good partner. I'll see how far this goes. EDIT2: Currently at 112, still going. EDIT: I just read the few posts above this one lol. @Jumpman: Hahahaha, that was interesting. Yeah, U-Turn/Volt Switch/Explosions ... I'm not really sure how to deal with them with more confidence. Only thing I thought of was using a Rotom as my Tricker ... Maybe one of these days I'll try that. I did want to try out Mismagius again too. I was also thinking Rotom-Heat for U-Turn/Volt Switch as well as not locking opponent into ice moves for Dragonite. I dunno. I haven't been in the mood for using trick set up strategies lately so it might be a while. @Peterko: Thanks for updating! @atsync: Good job on the Factory! I have yet to get my 49 on it... Sort of makes me want to try it out again. It's just a bit hard to get back to Gen IV's slowness after being used to B/W. Last edited by Chinese Dood; Jan 4th, 2012 at 2:31:51 PM. |
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@Chinese Dood: Yeah agreed I'm never playing the 4th gen facilities again. As much as I love the factory, 4th gen just too slow and even haxier than the subway (and the subway can be pretty haxy). Fingers crossed that they'll redo the 3rd gen games and bring back Hoenn's frontier though!
U-turn/Volt Switch were annoying for my Whimsicott/Bisharp/Dragonite team too. They are part of the reason why I ran Stun Spore on my Whimsicott (well I was more concerned about Clear Body but whatever). At least then if they switched out they would still be crippled a bit for later on, and then I just hope that Bisharp or Dragonite can set up on what comes out next (collective they can set up on a lot of things anyway, and the type synergy allowed for switch-stalling sometimes, so it usually worked out). That doesn't really apply for your team (and Jumpman's) though. As for Explosion, it never proved to be that big of a deal for me. I've found that Explosion pokemon rarely use Explosion until they either are almost dead or have run out of moves to use (such as set up pokemon like Forretress 4) so I usually had enough time to set up enough to win anyway, particularly if I used Bisharp (it sets up so quickly). So anyway I've decided to stick with Garchomp+Azelf for now. So far all of the teams losses are due to either hax or misplays rather than poor design (in my opinion anyway lol) so it should be able to go higher. I'll probably fool around with the backups at some point to see where improvements can be made.
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I got a record of 203 in the Platinum Battle Hall with this pokemon:
Garchomp (M) @ Yache Berry / Focus Sash Trait: Sand Veil EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe IVs: 31 across the board Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Outrage - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Fire Fang Basically a simple Garchomp. I never actually used Stone Miss, even on the mons that were 4x weak to it, because I didn't want Stone Miss to, well, miss. I survived numurous close calls before finally losing at the hands of a Slowbro. Having beaten Slowbro previously on my streak, I thought this would be an easy win. I started off with Outrage, which did about 55%, however, this Slowbro had one thing the other had not, a Sitrus Berry. So yeah, the Sitrus Berry made me lose the match, as Slowbro easily took Chomp out with Ice Beam + Psychic. Couldn't 2HKO thanks to that retarded berry. I will update with a photo once I get my hands on a camera. |
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See: http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketeli...allPokemon.txt
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I was so pleased when I made it all the way to 70 in the Super Singles Train and then, hoping to see how far I could make it past the benchmark, promptly lost battle #71.
Anyway my team at the time of the loss was, if I recall correctly:  Ferrothorn "Lord Ochu" @ Rocky Helmet Sassy HP 252, SpecDef 252, Def 6 31/21/31/29/31/7 Substitute Curse Leech Seed Power Whip ---  Dragonite "Spathi" @ Leftovers Adamant HP 204, Att 254, Def 52 31/31/31/20/22/25 Multiscale Dragon Claw Roost Substitute Dragon Dance ---  Machamp "Hecaton" @ Lum Berry Adamant HP 252, Att 252, Def 6 31/31/31/2/24/20 No Guard Dynamic Punch Bullet Punch Ice Punch Payback My original idea for the team was to put Dragonite and Ferrothorn together. Not particularly creative on my part, but it seemed like a pretty solid idea. The immediate problem was that they both REALLY want Leftovers, which is probably why I didn't see any teams on the list that included both. Anyway, I opted to give Ferrothorn the Rocky Helmet for hilarious amounts of recoil when I switch him in to take a resisted physical hit. Unfortunately, I completely forget how I lost. It was a while ago and I couldn't get my account to post until recently. Since this streak, I've switched Machamp for a Minimizing Smeargle with Baton Pass and Substitute. I gave the Leftovers back to Ferrothorn and Machamp's Lum Berry to Dragonite and... It doesn't seem all that great, really. I'm not sure I'll get further than this with that. |
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Jan 4th, 2012, 7:49:09 PM
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My first try at a decent team got me a streak of 74 wins.
First, the team: Darmanitan @ Choice Scarf Brave EVs: 252 attack, ~ 200 speed, the rest in other (Was in the party for a bit before I started EV training) lvl 50 stats: 185/210/77/51/75/120 Flare Blitz Earthquake Rock Slide U-Turn - Suicune @ Leftovers Relaxed IVs: 31/13/16/22/30/31 EVs: 252/0/238/0/0/20 (I guess I somehow put some EVs back in Pearl) lvl 50 stats: 207/86/172/106/135/97 Scald Rest Ice Beam Calm Mind - Garchomp @ Yache Berry Adamant IVs: 29/29/4/20/31/31 EVs: 4/252/0/0/0/252 lvl 50 stats: 183/199/102/85/105/153 Outrage Earthquake Stone Edge Swords Dance The strategy was fairly straightforward. Darmanitan would Flare Blitz if it hit neutrally, Flare Blitz if it was super effective, and Flare Blitz in most cases if it was resisted. Darmanitan is almost always good for a KO or two, and despite the Brave nature, 180 speed outpaces most of the Subway. Most of the problem Pokemon that outspeed it are electrics and easily handled by Garchomp. If there's a bulky water, I switch in Suicune, who sets up to +6/+6 and sweeps. Suicune is also commonly the target of U-turns against sturdy PKMN. Even with 4 def IV, it's pretty hard to kill. Garchomp is there to keep up the offensive pressure if Darmanitan is revenge killed. Yache allows Chomp to survive almost all ice attacks, sneak in a Swords Dance, and sweep. I started out using Toxic on Suicune, but switched to Ice Beam after I realized that my team had a distinct Jolly dragon weakness. Proplem Pokes: Offensive Starmie (Switch to Suicune, pivot to Garchomp on the Thunderbolt, eat Ice Beam, KO with Outrage), Latia@s, Garchomp (Flare Blitz, eat Earthquake, send in Suicune for the 2HKO), Salamence (U-turn out of intimidate, pray Suicune can get the burn, and if it doesn't bring back Darmanitan to Rock Slide) The loss: Gentleman Camus (Latias, Suicune, Landorus) Turn 1: Darminatan U-Turns out into Suicune, who eats a Specs-boosted Draco Meteor to 51 HP (Latias in yellow) Turn 2: Latias KOs Suicune with Draco Meteor. Switch in Darmanitan Turn 3: Darmanitan KOs Latias with Flare Blitz (praying he doesn't have a bulky water). He sends out Suicune (!@#$) Turn 4: Flare Blitz crits, triggers Sitrus Berry. Darmanitan gets KO'd by Hydro Pump. Send in Garchomp. Turn 5: Garchomp Swords Dances, eats a Blizzard to 73 HP. Turn 6: Garchomp KOs Suicune with Earthquake. (Praying his last guy is slow). He sends out Landorus (okay...) Turn 7: Landorus KOs Garchomp with Earth Power. If I would've kept Darmanitan in and taken the KO, Suicune could've set up against a weakened Draco Meteor, let Latias die to struggles, get to +6/+6 and beat Suicune, then 1HKO Landorus with Ice Beam. |
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1) not post in 4+ months (i have over 10% of the posts in the old thread) 2) lose after just four wins since I'd evidently started playing again (that team was 301-0 prior to me playing again) 3) post evidently immediately about a loss after just four wins since I'd evidently started playing again (again, that team was 301-0 prior to me playing again) 4) completely not acknowledge that my record had been broken 5) be completely unaware that my record had been broken almost two months prior 6) play in such an admitted, blatant "give no fuck" style only down by ~130 battles when I poured everything I had to improve upon and protect a Platinum streak that was at least 15 times farther behind (the difference between ~200 when I start caring and 2363) Like, "no one does that" and is at all lying, especially not me (let's just say there are some frontier losses in like arcade and frontier I never posted about lol). 7) would be that I honestly don't think that ~Mercury's team is all that good so I wouldn't think ~130 more wins for me would ever be threatened by the current #1 again (mainly given my wealth of experience with very similar Suicune and Garchomp sets over literal generations from Emerald) but that's slightly disrespectful and another story altogether. Oh well, I guess. Nonetheless, good to see you finally referring to me by name again (easier to do after I lose, huh :). It is good to be back, and very fun to actually care about team building again, which will always be much, much more fun to me than playing. In the last 4+ months I meant to "be back" and post about the dozens of teams I had entertained either in practice or extensive theorymon (which further annoys me since I'm more likely to have seen I wasn't the record holder but I think I mentioned that earlier). Your comment about not getting over 49 wins in singles with more than one team reminded me that many of my teams have been so fortunate to do so, which is why I'm posting now. I'm at 49 wins now with this team: Salamence@Choice Band: Outrage/Fly/Earthquake/Fire Fang, Jolly, 4HP/252Atk/252Spe, Moxie Swampert@Leftovers: Waterfall/Curse/Rest/Sleep Talk, Careful, 252HP/4Atk/252SpD, Torrent Scizor@Metal Coat: Bullet Punch/Bug Bite/Swords Dance/Roost, Adamant, 244HP/252Atk/14Spe, Technician Best thing about this is that it's another SSS team! (I swore by CB Sala/CM Cune/Curselax in Emerald). If you guys want you can critique the shit out of this (please do, nobody ever really "gets to" do this with my teams that are in progress), I actually only have 14 wins with this team but it's the first one I feel super solid about since my Latios/Suicune/Terrakion team. It's also fun to actually 3-0 Ingo in three turns, something that no Starmie or Latios lead variants I've used have been able to do. Hax has Yache for Starmie and Latios EB Timid Surf only does 94% max to Exca and 101% max to Chandy, whereas if Ingo doesn't lead with Haxorus then Moxie Jolly CB Salamence EQ has a 76.25% chance to sweep outright because +1 CB EQ does 95-112% to Haxorus (and I don't care if I dont kill cause Scizor always beats it regardless of DD then Outrage and Hp/SpD Swampert always beats Chandy). Hell if Ingo leads with Chandy I have a 75% chance of sweeping because Outrage does 103% min, obviously OHKOs the Haxorus he'll invariably bring out next (AI sees it as a STAB Dragon "check") and regardless of confusion considerations CB +2 Jolly Sala Outrage does 101% min to 170Def Excadrill, lol. A lot of words for a 14-win team but if I lose "relatively soon" with this team I'm using it again till I get tired of close calls and go with Whimsicott/Dragula/Mesprit (which is still unbeaten in my eyes :)
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Pokemon Black Battle Subway Super Singles: 462 Streak
Here's the RMT. Here's a list of some videos: Battle 49: 33-29998-41626 Battle 204: 59-05657-24468 Battle 329: 23-05957-67861 YouTube Video Battle 463: 26-39851-15353 Pic's a bit big, so..
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Shuckle @ Chesto Berry Bold Nature IVs: 31/x/31/x/31/x EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpD Lv.50: 127/21/309/25/251/15 *Sturdy* ~ Rest ~ Power Split ~ Gastro Acid ~ Struggle Bug Gastrodon @ Rindo Berry Sassy Nature IVs: 31/x/31/x/31/x EVs: 252 HP/196 Def/60 SpD Lv.50: 218/88/112/101/121/52 *Sticky Hold* ~ Flash ~ Recover ~ Bulldoze ~ Memento Ferrothorn @ Leftovers Sassy Nature IVs: 31/24/31/x/31/x EVs: 252 HP/252 SpD/6 Atk Lv.50: 181/110/151/68/184/36 *Iron Barbs* ~ Curse ~ Gyro Ball ~ Substitute ~ Power Whip How I Lost Backpacker Cedric: Lilligant1/Nidoking1/Dugtrio1 ¬¬ Lilligant came out and Petal Danced. Shuckle Power Splits and KO's in 4 turns with Struggle Bug. This may have been my demise, as I could have easily set up on her. >.> Nidoking comes out, Hones Claws and I Power Split. He HC's again as I switch to Gastrodon. He Megahorn's for more than half my HP and I Flash. He HC's again, I Flash again, and he KO's with Megahorn. Shuckle comes in and gets a Rock Slide, I Power Split, then switch to Ferrothorn as he Hones Claws. He Megahorn's, it crits leaving me with 42 HP. I try to sub and can't, so I switch back to Shuckle and Power Split again after taking a Megahorn. Ferro comes back in and takes a Rock Slide, Megahorn crits for a KO. Shuckle gets a Rock Slide crit and goes down. I lost mainly due to sloppiness. There was no reason to KO Lilligant, I should have let Ferrothorn set up on her, but I was in too much of a hurry. The crit hax didn't help, but it could have been avoided. I also posted this a while back, but I think it got missed Battle Subway Super Singles: 137 Streak It's big, so..
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lol 462 with Ferro as the only attacker? I don´t understand the world anymore...
Well, whatever, you posted proof so I have no choice but to add you in the next update. But seriously, you must´ve started the streak in like july or something, because a set of 7 with that team has to take ages. Quote:
Well, I didn´t really understand what you were trying to say in that post, but if you imply that this time I updated the list just a few hours after you lost...let me just say that I planned to update the list on the 31st of December 2011 (also I´ve updated the gen.4 list which took 7 hours) and as far as I´m concerned, it was a coincidence that you posted that day. As for Mercury´s record, I admit I don´t really understand how he got to 500+ with that, but I don´t care anymore...I mean not as much as to tell how my Suicune streak ended at like #30 to scarfchomp outrage CHs, or to find flaws in his team etc., there was proof so I just added him without any comments, whatsoever. Now here´s another 400+ singles record out of nowhere and I´m like Okaaay, I´ve spent 800 hours on this game over 7 months and my best is 390 in doubles and people just pull 400s...but whatever. As for which losses are more painful than others, let´s just say that only the player who lost feels the pain. Others might understand it a bit from their own experience, but claiming losses as the worst, leads nowhere ... I mean when I was doing 140-ish battles per day and lost at #251 with TerraCott due to misplay, I didn´t really understand how I did the mistake I did, when I played perfect 250 before that. I never got that high again with the team...shit happens in this game, quite a lot. I´m not really sure what I wanted to say with this post lol, but peace man. Hope you beat those two and claim your well deserved #1 again soon. Good luck. So...congrats to those amazing streaks you guys. Keep up the good work.
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