The (Past) Dark Horse Project — Volume 1 - Page 10

Pearl. · Jan 8th, 2012, 6:58:18 PM

i'm preparing a very special update for this project, even though i'm most likely done with laddering. it should be done by tuesday or late monday in the best case scenario.

by the way, could you update my ranking on the hall of fame post (check this for reference) and put my name in bold on the registered users list?

**NixHex** · Jan 8th, 2012, 7:11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Bruno Magno

Ranger Blue

This team shouldn't be admitted at the Dark Horse Project. Its objective is try different ways to battle, and your team is overcentralizated beyond imagination. Tyranitar, Scarf Landorus, Volturn. You copied even Virizion's set, which is your Dark Horse!

I fail to see the problem here. No one said we can't use standard sets. The goal is to show that lower used Pokemon can still be effective in today's metagame. If it takes standard sets to be effective, then let him be - sets are standard for a reason.

Soulous · Jan 8th, 2012, 7:25:35 PM

Oh i updated my dark horse to crawdaunt a while ago (edited the orignal post), forgot to make a new post about it though.

Skore · Jan 8th, 2012, 7:58:46 PM

I'm finding that my team is very Scizor/Terakkion weak - which is half the metagame these days. Anyone got a suggestion for getting around it?

Here's the team.

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Any suggestions are welcome as long as you don't diss my Dark Horse Gallade :D

alphatron · Jan 8th, 2012, 8:09:11 PM

I wouldn't dream of insulting the greatest dark horse Pokemon of all time.

I do question your Gallade set, as it looks like you're trying to run a bulky swords dance set on a Pokemon with terrible defense. That, and if a boosted fire punch can't save dragonite from skarmory, then it won't save Gallade either.

Either way, without forcing you to change your members of your team too much, you might want to go with a bulky go lurk rather than an adamant one (my secret second dark horse has been revealed!). Bulky golurk is the perfect switch in to a terrakion of any kind. Golurk doesn't do much to scizor, but by running a bold tentacruel in place of a hardy one, you'll be able to defend yourself against him for a bit better. You might want to mess with his ev spread, as his hp isn't good enough to avoid investing Evs in.

Stif247 · Jan 8th, 2012, 9:29:21 PM

changing dark horse to mew, because i suck too much to use archeops. I think i finally have a good team and will begin to ladder again tomorrow.

Mew @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 108 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Taunt
- Psychic
- Will-O-Wisp
- Softboiled

Byrn Dragonstone · Jan 8th, 2012, 10:24:35 PM

Gonna change my Dark horse pokemon around, hail is getting its butt kicked with Terrakion/scizor everywhere.

Anyways here are the pokemon I'm using.
Pokemon Online Username: Dragonstone[DK]
Hall of Fame Standing: -
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Whimsicott
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

This is the set I am using to troll people with:
Erufuun (Whimsicott) (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Encore
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Stun Spore

**AccidentalGreed** · Jan 8th, 2012, 10:43:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Skore

I'm finding that my team is very Scizor/Terakkion weak - which is half the metagame these days. Anyone got a suggestion for getting around it?

Here's the team.

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Any suggestions are welcome as long as you don't diss my Dark Horse Gallade :D

Adding on to Alpha's suggestions, I would also note that:

NOT using a bulky Togekiss for the paralysis role is completely counter-productive (especially since you're maximizing its Speed). By not investing in bulk, you're effectively leaving Togekiss vulnerable to Volt Switch and a bunch of random attacks that Togekiss SHOULD tank off. Togekiss isn't beating anything by a landslide, so make it specially defensive, perhaps with another option besides Aura Sphere. Flamethrower is an option since this team is so weak to Scizor.
I'm guessing the Hardy natures are mistakes, so please fix them immediately.
I'm iffy about the use of Psychic in Kyurem's moveset. If anything, Dragon Pulseis a better option over it for a secondary Dragon-type move (these things are common on Pokemon such as Latios and Hydreigon).
What role does Gallade serve on a Hail-oriented team?

fairytale · Jan 8th, 2012, 11:43:45 PM

Pokemon Online Username: DHfairytale
Dark Horse Pokemon: Quagsire
Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set:
Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Recover

I made it !

Heres the team... but don't expect anything exciting.

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I know... lazy as fuck EV spreads and it's not at all original, but it works!

Keep in mind I haven't actively played OU since before Thundurus was banned, so I don't understand the meta well enough to be very innovative... I just thought this was a fun idea and I wanted to get involved. I really love the way these mons play together though, and having a sturdy unaware poke like Quag opens up a ton of options in battle.

oh and heres a replay... I was using seismic toss on Blissey at the time I believe lol, I actually just changed it, so I don't have any logs of my team exactly as it is.

http://pokemon.aesoft.org/replay-DHf...21--2012-01-08

**AccidentalGreed** · Jan 9th, 2012, 7:21:31 PM

Hey you. Yeah you. Don't even think about it. You're not getting Togekiss.

PO Username: AGTesting
Hall of Fame standing: Currently none
Dark Horse: Togekiss
Current Ladder standing: 1377

This is the Pokemon I've been working with, and am highly comfortable with, despite its status in UU:

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 220 HP / 36 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Roost
- Heal Bell
- Air Slash

I shall post with details in the near future as I ladder. Let me just say this though: Togekiss is an acquired taste.

Sorry man, I only have so much time away from PO.

ssbbm · Jan 9th, 2012, 8:56:57 PM

lol ag lets race to top 100 im bored

**ginganinja** · Jan 10th, 2012, 1:45:47 AM

I did it...

Frizy, this one is for you

WARNING FUCKING BIG COS I SUCK AT PAINT AND STUFF

Pokemon Online Username: Kate
Dark Horse Pokemon: Virizion (Frizy)
Screenshot of Top 100 Ladder Ranking (above): 1363 (84th so far)
Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set:

Frizy (Virizion) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Close Combat
- Leaf Blade
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge

ill post a RMT but im posting a RMT with Frizy in it anyway for my 2K so w/e ill post the team once my 2K is out of the way. Also I have logs and stuff too so yeah ill post those soon as well

and to finish

FRIZY SUCKS

EDIT: peaked at 1375 (72nd) before getting royally fucked by hax

Darkdiglett · Jan 10th, 2012, 1:56:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Darkdiglett

Houndoom (M) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Flamethrower
- Dark Pulse
- Hidden Power [Ground]

Pokemon Online Username: Lightning Siax
Hall of Fame Standing: None as of yet!
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Houndoom
Current Ladder Standing: 1202

Team im using atm

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spuds4ever · Jan 10th, 2012, 7:11:43 AM

Pokemon online username: Death by Frog
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon currently working with: Toxicroak
Current ladder standing: 1093 (only just started).

Toxicroak @Black sludge
EVs: 252 atk, 252 spd Jolly
Sucker punch
Substitute
Drain punch
Swords dance

erisia · Jan 10th, 2012, 10:23:41 AM

Oooh, looks like fun.

Pokemon Online Username: erisiachamp
Hall of Fame Standing: Little Mac's on his way...
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Machamp
Current Ladder Standing: 1239

Machamp (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Substitute
- DynamicPunch
- Stone Edge
- Payback

RETURN OF THE CHAMP.

AasTmO · Jan 10th, 2012, 10:29:47 AM

Well, there goes Virizion... Just Snorlax for me, then.

fairytale · Jan 10th, 2012, 11:38:10 AM

Edited my registration post, gonna try this with Nidoqueen now.

Also, on the list of registered users, it still has me with Snorlax and it isn't bolded. I'm not trying to rush you to change it, just making sure you're aware of it. :3

ala · Jan 10th, 2012, 12:33:43 PM

Pokemon Online Username: dunkaroo
Hall of Fame Standing: Will be there shortly :)
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Kingdra/Toxicroak
Current Ladder Standing: 1252

Kingdra (F) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Sniper
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Outrage
- Hydro Pump

Toxicroak (F) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Dry Skin
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch

***Birkal**** · Jan 10th, 2012, 3:42:01 PM

Hey guys! I've updated the Registered Users list and the Hall of Fame. Remember, the Registered Participants list is the ONLY place that I check for updates in Dark Horse Pokemon and PO usernames. If something is amiss, please PM or VM me! While it's great that you update throughout the topic to let other users know your progress, know that your Registration Form is the official source that I go to. I typically make a round for updating once a day (by clicking on every name and checking every team), so your patience is appreciated.

Also, congratulations to fairytale and ginganinja! The two of you have been successfully added to the Hall of Fame. It's great to see that Quagsire and its fantastic ability can thrive and survive in OU; Lum Virizion is also an excellent addition to the Hall of Fame. Who knows who will show up next? Keep on laddering!

Although this is a competition, the Dark Horse Project is first and foremost a project. As such, I'll be swinging by later to ask some questions for all participants to give us a good scope of how Dark Horse Pokemon as a whole are doing in OU. If you have any questions that you'd like presented to the group, feel free to post them here or PM them to me if you'd like to remain anonymous. See you on the flip side!

toshimelonhead · Jan 10th, 2012, 4:00:16 PM

Pokemon Online Username: melonhead
Dark Horse Pokemon: Venusaur
Screenshot of Top 100 Ladder Ranking: Link for proof
Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set:

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 96 SDef / 12 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leech Seed

Pokemon Online Username: melonhead
Dark Horse Pokemon: Sawsbuck
Screenshot of Top 100 Ladder Ranking: Link for proof
Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set:

Sawsbuck (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Frustration
- Nature Power
- Horn Leech

RMT might be coming soon. Stay tuned :)

jessifer · Jan 10th, 2012, 4:17:16 PM

Pokemon Online Username: meffie
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Lilligant
Current Ladder Standing: 1015/17361

Team:

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Master of the Six Kings · Jan 10th, 2012, 4:25:45 PM

PO Username: Brushingup
Hall: No
Dark Horse: Nidoking/Azelf
Current ladder: 1183

FrostFire · Jan 10th, 2012, 7:32:34 PM

OK, so it's been a little while, and it's update time. The dark horse pokemon I chose was Suicune; and so far, I'm going relatively well. I'm still climbing the ladder at a steady rate, but I feel like I need a little bit more something if I want to actually break the top 100 (currently I'm at 502nd, so I have quite a ways to go yet).

Anyway, this is the team that I've been using so far, and I'd really appreciate some advice.

Landorus @Choice Scarf
Sand Force
Jolly - 4 HP /252 Atk. /252 Spe
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-U-Turn

Suicune @Leftovers
Pressure
Bold - 252 HP/ 252 Def. /4 Sp. Def
-Calm Mind
-Scald
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Celebi @Life Orb
Natural Cure
Modest - 232 HP/ 240 Sp. Atk/ 36 Spe
-Thunder Wave/ Heal Bell
-Leaf Storm
-Hidden Power [Fire]
-Recover

Heatran @Life Orb
Flash Fire
Modest - 252 Sp. Atk/ 4 Sp. Def/ 252 Spe
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Stealth Rock

Skarmory @Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish - 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Spe
-Brave Bird
-Spikes
-Whirlwind
-Roost

Blissey @Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold - 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Sp. Def
-Wish
-Protect
-Toxic
-Seismic Toss

Just as a side-note, I've actually been running two different Suicune sets, thanks to some advice I had.

Suicune @Life Orb
Pressure
Timid - 4 HP/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 252 Spe
-Calm Mind
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power [Grass]

Both sets have been working out fairly well; when I use Offensive Suicune, I tend to use Thunder Wave on Celebi, and when I use Crocune, I sometimes opt for Heal Bell, in case I need to switch out while Suicune's resting. Any more advice on which set is better/ how I can support it would be really helpful :)

On to the team in general, once I decided that I was going to use Suicune, I started looking at the threats I had to cover. The first that immediately popped to mind was Rotom-W, which I knew I had to be able to thoroughly counter. So, who better than Celebi? The Tinkerbell set can simultaneously support my team with T-Wave (or Heal Bell) while being a diabolical offensive threat with 240 Sp. Atk EVs/ Modest - Life Orb Leaf Storm.
Then I thought, well, I have a water and a grass type - why not throw in a fire type for some basic, but good defensive synergy? That's where Heatran came in, as it partners fantastically with Celebi, can set up SR, take fire attacks aimed at Celebi, and then proceed to terrorise with it's powerful Life Orb'd Fire Blast.

This is where things get dicey. I ended up throwing together the SkarmBliss combo for several reasons: firstly, with so many Life Orbs on my team (3, if using Offensive Cune), wish support is really be appreciated. Secondly, Suicune doesn't hit so hard, and would probably appreciate some more hazards on the field to nab KO's (and I've found that there tends to be a lot of switching with this team, so Spikes + SR is useful anyway). Thirdly, I suck at really offensive playstyles, and I need a defensive core that won't compound weaknesses with Celebi/ Tran/ Cune (read: Celebi/ Heatran are offensive, and can't take too much of a beating). So, Skarmory and Blissey seem to fit nicely as members 4 and 5 of my team.

Lastly, while Landorus may seem a bit of an after-thought, it's actually quite important. My entire team is actually quite slow, and I need something with a bit of pace, that can revenge stuff while still keeping momentum up.

Eh, I don't know. This has become a bit tl;dr, and it was only supposed to be a quick update @_@
Anywho, comments would be greatly, greatly appreciated. I'm determined to see Suicune break into the Hall of Fame ;)

Stif247 · Jan 10th, 2012, 7:49:24 PM

Is there anyway to make it so i gain more points everytime on win a battle on PO? Its getting so old gaining 17 for every victory. Also frostfire your team looks pretty good but i recommend giga drain over leaf storm so that you can sweep and gain some of your life orb damage back.

Matthew · Jan 11th, 2012, 3:43:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat ala

Pokemon Online Username: dunkaroo
Hall of Fame Standing: Will be there shortly :)
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Kingdra/Toxicroak
Current Ladder Standing: 1252

Kingdra (F) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Sniper
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Outrage
- Hydro Pump

Toxicroak (F) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Dry Skin
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch

Not sure if you want any advice but I think that DD Rest Outrage Waterfall Kingdra is a lot better than the current version you have. Sure, Outrage confusion can kinda be a bitch, but rain boosted Waterfall (or even something as simple as +2 Waterfall) can cause massive trouble for anything that doesn't resist it. The idea would simply be get rid of the opponents Ferrothorn then set up to the best of your ability. It was a great set last generation -- so I'm kind of interested to see how it does this generation.

But maybe I'm just spit ballin' here!

Jan 8th, 2012, 7:58:46 PM	#229
Skore Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 340 Oz. No, not Australia. Fucking Oz!	I'm finding that my team is very Scizor/Terakkion weak - which is half the metagame these days. Anyone got a suggestion for getting around it? Here's the team. ... Gallade The Dark Horse(M) @ Lum Berry Trait: Steadfast EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Swords Dance - Drain Punch - Shadow Sneak - Fire Punch Abomasnow (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Snow Warning EVs: 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Giga Drain - Leech Seed - Blizzard - Substitute Kyurem @ Choice Specs Trait: Pressure EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Hardy Nature - Blizzard - Draco Meteor - Psychic - Focus Blast Golurk @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Fist EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Shadow Punch - Substitute Togekiss (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Thunder Wave - Air Slash - Aura Sphere - Roost Tentacruel (F) @ Black Sludge Trait: Liquid Ooze EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef / 4 Spd Hardy Nature - Rapid Spin - Blizzard - Scald - Toxic Spikes Any suggestions are welcome as long as you don't diss my Dark Horse Gallade :D __________________ B/W FC: 2193 9707 7179 I use legal hacks. Still learning, throw whatever you got at me.

Jan 8th, 2012, 8:09:11 PM	#230
alphatron Volt turn in every tier! I'm in despair! Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,357	I wouldn't dream of insulting the greatest dark horse Pokemon of all time. I do question your Gallade set, as it looks like you're trying to run a bulky swords dance set on a Pokemon with terrible defense. That, and if a boosted fire punch can't save dragonite from skarmory, then it won't save Gallade either. Either way, without forcing you to change your members of your team too much, you might want to go with a bulky go lurk rather than an adamant one (my secret second dark horse has been revealed!). Bulky golurk is the perfect switch in to a terrakion of any kind. Golurk doesn't do much to scizor, but by running a bold tentacruel in place of a hardy one, you'll be able to defend yourself against him for a bit better. You might want to mess with his ev spread, as his hp isn't good enough to avoid investing Evs in. __________________ Fifth Gen OU RMT: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...67#post3383567

Jan 8th, 2012, 9:29:21 PM	#231
Stif247 Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	changing dark horse to mew, because i suck too much to use archeops. I think i finally have a good team and will begin to ladder again tomorrow. Mew @ Leftovers Trait: Synchronize EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 108 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Taunt - Psychic - Will-O-Wisp - Softboiled __________________ stif247 or stif24-7 on PO Peaks: 900ish UU 1350 OU 336 Ubers Shuckle+maxhp/spdef+sandstrom=power over 9000!! Last edited by Stif247; Jan 8th, 2012 at 9:47:17 PM.

Jan 8th, 2012, 10:24:35 PM	#232
Byrn Dragonstone Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 236	Gonna change my Dark horse pokemon around, hail is getting its butt kicked with Terrakion/scizor everywhere. Anyways here are the pokemon I'm using. Pokemon Online Username: Dragonstone[DK] Hall of Fame Standing: - Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Whimsicott Current Ladder Standing: 1000 This is the set I am using to troll people with: Erufuun (Whimsicott) (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Prankster EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Encore - Leech Seed - Substitute - Stun Spore __________________ Peaks: #247 OU, #4 UU

Jan 8th, 2012, 11:43:45 PM	#234
fairytale Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 209	Pokemon Online Username: DHfairytale Dark Horse Pokemon: Quagsire Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set: Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Unaware EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd) - Scald - Earthquake - Toxic - Recover I made it ! Heres the team... but don't expect anything exciting. ... Tyranitar (M) @ Chople Berry Trait: Sand Stream EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd) - Stealth Rock - Crunch - Fire Blast - Rock Slide Forretress (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Toxic Spikes - Spikes - Rapid Spin - Volt Switch Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Unaware EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd) - Scald - Earthquake - Toxic - Recover Blissey (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Softboiled - Flamethrower - Heal Bell - Toxic Reuniclus (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Magic Guard EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Focus Blast - Psychic - Recover Gengar (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Substitute - Disable - Shadow Ball - Focus Blast I know... lazy as fuck EV spreads and it's not at all original, but it works! Keep in mind I haven't actively played OU since before Thundurus was banned, so I don't understand the meta well enough to be very innovative... I just thought this was a fun idea and I wanted to get involved. I really love the way these mons play together though, and having a sturdy unaware poke like Quag opens up a ton of options in battle. oh and heres a replay... I was using seismic toss on Blissey at the time I believe lol, I actually just changed it, so I don't have any logs of my team exactly as it is. http://pokemon.aesoft.org/replay-DHf...21--2012-01-08 Last edited by fairytale; Jan 8th, 2012 at 11:58:59 PM.

Jan 8th, 2012, 6:58:18 PM	#226
Pearl. Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 264	i'm preparing a very special update for this project, even though i'm most likely done with laddering. it should be done by tuesday or late monday in the best case scenario. by the way, could you update my ranking on the hall of fame post (check this for reference) and put my name in bold on the registered users list?

Jan 8th, 2012, 7:25:35 PM	#228
Soulous Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 48	Oh i updated my dark horse to crawdaunt a while ago (edited the orignal post), forgot to make a new post about it though.

Jan 9th, 2012, 7:21:31 PM	#235
AccidentalGreed I'll bite off your kneecaps if I ever see a super long post or wall of text. Seriously. Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,024 California	Hey you. Yeah you. Don't even think about it. You're not getting Togekiss. PO Username: AGTesting Hall of Fame standing: Currently none Dark Horse: Togekiss Current Ladder standing: 1377 This is the Pokemon I've been working with, and am highly comfortable with, despite its status in UU: Togekiss @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace EVs: 220 HP / 36 SpA / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Nasty Plot - Roost - Heal Bell - Air Slash I shall post with details in the near future as I ladder. Let me just say this though: Togekiss is an acquired taste. Sorry man, I only have so much time away from PO. __________________ Last edited by AccidentalGreed; Jan 14th, 2012 at 2:24:06 AM.

Jan 9th, 2012, 8:56:57 PM	#236
ssbbm Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 999 Where you can play Pokemon with Singing Narwhals and Dancing Clouds	lol ag lets race to top 100 im bored

Jan 10th, 2012, 1:45:47 AM	#237
ginganinja Delena 4ever Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,084 In Love	I did it... Frizy, this one is for you WARNING FUCKING BIG COS I SUCK AT PAINT AND STUFF Pokemon Online Username: Kate Dark Horse Pokemon: Virizion (Frizy) Screenshot of Top 100 Ladder Ranking (above): 1363 (84th so far) Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set: Frizy (Virizion) @ Lum Berry Trait: Justified EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def) - Close Combat - Leaf Blade - Swords Dance - Stone Edge ill post a RMT but im posting a RMT with Frizy in it anyway for my 2K so w/e ill post the team once my 2K is out of the way. Also I have logs and stuff too so yeah ill post those soon as well and to finish FRIZY SUCKS EDIT: peaked at 1375 (72nd) before getting royally fucked by hax __________________ Last edited by ginganinja; Jan 10th, 2012 at 4:19:31 AM.

Jan 10th, 2012, 7:11:43 AM	#239
spuds4ever Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 660 UK	Pokemon online username: Death by Frog Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon currently working with: Toxicroak Current ladder standing: 1093 (only just started). Toxicroak @Black sludge EVs: 252 atk, 252 spd Jolly Sucker punch Substitute Drain punch Swords dance

Jan 10th, 2012, 10:23:41 AM	#240
erisia (macho) brace yourselves Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 852	Oooh, looks like fun. Pokemon Online Username: erisiachamp Hall of Fame Standing: Little Mac's on his way... Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Machamp Current Ladder Standing: 1239 Machamp (M) @ Leftovers Trait: No Guard EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA) - Substitute - DynamicPunch - Stone Edge - Payback RETURN OF THE CHAMP. __________________ Check out Slowmons: A new metagame where the slowest Pokémon moves first! Last edited by erisia; Jan 13th, 2012 at 6:58:29 PM.

Jan 10th, 2012, 10:29:47 AM	#241
AasTmO Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 155	Well, there goes Virizion... Just Snorlax for me, then.

Jan 10th, 2012, 11:38:10 AM	#242
fairytale Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 209	Edited my registration post, gonna try this with Nidoqueen now. Also, on the list of registered users, it still has me with Snorlax and it isn't bolded. I'm not trying to rush you to change it, just making sure you're aware of it. :3

Jan 10th, 2012, 12:33:43 PM	#243
ala a Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,967 mercinary	Pokemon Online Username: dunkaroo Hall of Fame Standing: Will be there shortly :) Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Kingdra/Toxicroak Current Ladder Standing: 1252 Kingdra (F) @ Lum Berry Trait: Sniper EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef) - Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Outrage - Hydro Pump Toxicroak (F) @ Black Sludge Trait: Dry Skin EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Substitute - Bulk Up - Drain Punch - Sucker Punch

Jan 10th, 2012, 3:42:01 PM	#244
*Birkal We have the technology. Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,989 The Mentor	Hey guys! I've updated the Registered Users list and the Hall of Fame. Remember, the Registered Participants list is the ONLY place that I check for updates in Dark Horse Pokemon and PO usernames. If something is amiss, please PM or VM me! While it's great that you update throughout the topic to let other users know your progress, know that your Registration Form is the official source that I go to. I typically make a round for updating once a day (by clicking on every name and checking every team), so your patience is appreciated. Also, congratulations to fairytale and ginganinja! The two of you have been successfully added to the Hall of Fame. It's great to see that Quagsire and its fantastic ability can thrive and survive in OU; Lum Virizion is also an excellent addition to the Hall of Fame. Who knows who will show up next? Keep on laddering! Although this is a competition, the Dark Horse Project is first and foremost a project. As such, I'll be swinging by later to ask some questions for all participants to give us a good scope of how Dark Horse Pokemon as a whole are doing in OU. If you have any questions that you'd like presented to the group, feel free to post them here or PM them to me if you'd like to remain anonymous. See you on the flip side!

Jan 10th, 2012, 4:00:16 PM	#245
toshimelonhead cool dude likes melonade Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 876 Snowpoint City	Pokemon Online Username: melonhead Dark Horse Pokemon: Venusaur Screenshot of Top 100 Ladder Ranking: Link for proof Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set: Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Chlorophyll EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 96 SDef / 12 Spd Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Sleep Powder - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [Fire] - Leech Seed Pokemon Online Username: melonhead Dark Horse Pokemon: Sawsbuck Screenshot of Top 100 Ladder Ranking: Link for proof Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set: Sawsbuck (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Chlorophyll EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Swords Dance - Frustration - Nature Power - Horn Leech RMT might be coming soon. Stay tuned :) __________________ 01[21:11] <@toshimelonhead> nova you are one lucky son of a gun [21:11] <@Novaray> hahahahaha [21:11] <@durrr> whys he lucky [21:12] <@Colchonero> maybe he got a date with jason's cousin [21:12] <@Novaray> LOL 01[21:12] <@toshimelonhead> rofl [21:13] <@durrr> HAHAHAHHA gtfo shes mine

Jan 10th, 2012, 4:17:16 PM	#246
jessifer Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 271 A magical place~	Pokemon Online Username: meffie Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Lilligant Current Ladder Standing: 1015/17361 Team: ... Ninetales (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Drought EVs: 252 HP / 100 SDef / 136 Spd Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Flamethrower - Will-O-Wisp - Substitute - Protect Lilligant (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Chlorophyll EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Quiver Dance - Sleep Powder - Giga Drain - Hidden Power [Ice] Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb Trait: Poison Heal EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spd Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Substitute - Protect - Earthquake - Toxic Wobbuffet (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 28 HP / 252 Def / 228 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Encore - Mirror Coat - Counter - Safeguard Heatran (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Flash Fire EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Stealth Rock - Roar - Protect - Lava Plume Chansey (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Wish - Protect - Toxic - Seismic Toss __________________ RMTs: Sun-OU RMT * Rain-Ubers RMT * Hazards-OU RMT Art Thread Last edited by jessifer; Jan 14th, 2012 at 3:41:59 PM.

Jan 10th, 2012, 4:25:45 PM	#247
Master of the Six Kings Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 791 Where soccer is the correct terminology and bacon isn't dishonest	PO Username: Brushingup Hall: No Dark Horse: Nidoking/Azelf Current ladder: 1183

Jan 10th, 2012, 7:32:34 PM	#248
FrostFire Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 96 New Zealand	OK, so it's been a little while, and it's update time. The dark horse pokemon I chose was Suicune; and so far, I'm going relatively well. I'm still climbing the ladder at a steady rate, but I feel like I need a little bit more something if I want to actually break the top 100 (currently I'm at 502nd, so I have quite a ways to go yet). Anyway, this is the team that I've been using so far, and I'd really appreciate some advice. Landorus @Choice Scarf Sand Force Jolly - 4 HP /252 Atk. /252 Spe -Earthquake -Stone Edge -Hidden Power [Ice] -U-Turn Suicune @Leftovers Pressure Bold - 252 HP/ 252 Def. /4 Sp. Def -Calm Mind -Scald -Rest -Sleep Talk Celebi @Life Orb Natural Cure Modest - 232 HP/ 240 Sp. Atk/ 36 Spe -Thunder Wave/ Heal Bell -Leaf Storm -Hidden Power [Fire] -Recover Heatran @Life Orb Flash Fire Modest - 252 Sp. Atk/ 4 Sp. Def/ 252 Spe -Fire Blast -Earth Power -Hidden Power [Ice] -Stealth Rock Skarmory @Leftovers Sturdy Impish - 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Spe -Brave Bird -Spikes -Whirlwind -Roost Blissey @Leftovers Natural Cure Bold - 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Sp. Def -Wish -Protect -Toxic -Seismic Toss Just as a side-note, I've actually been running two different Suicune sets, thanks to some advice I had. Suicune @Life Orb Pressure Timid - 4 HP/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 252 Spe -Calm Mind -Hydro Pump -Ice Beam -Hidden Power [Grass] Both sets have been working out fairly well; when I use Offensive Suicune, I tend to use Thunder Wave on Celebi, and when I use Crocune, I sometimes opt for Heal Bell, in case I need to switch out while Suicune's resting. Any more advice on which set is better/ how I can support it would be really helpful :) On to the team in general, once I decided that I was going to use Suicune, I started looking at the threats I had to cover. The first that immediately popped to mind was Rotom-W, which I knew I had to be able to thoroughly counter. So, who better than Celebi? The Tinkerbell set can simultaneously support my team with T-Wave (or Heal Bell) while being a diabolical offensive threat with 240 Sp. Atk EVs/ Modest - Life Orb Leaf Storm. Then I thought, well, I have a water and a grass type - why not throw in a fire type for some basic, but good defensive synergy? That's where Heatran came in, as it partners fantastically with Celebi, can set up SR, take fire attacks aimed at Celebi, and then proceed to terrorise with it's powerful Life Orb'd Fire Blast. This is where things get dicey. I ended up throwing together the SkarmBliss combo for several reasons: firstly, with so many Life Orbs on my team (3, if using Offensive Cune), wish support is really be appreciated. Secondly, Suicune doesn't hit so hard, and would probably appreciate some more hazards on the field to nab KO's (and I've found that there tends to be a lot of switching with this team, so Spikes + SR is useful anyway). Thirdly, I suck at really offensive playstyles, and I need a defensive core that won't compound weaknesses with Celebi/ Tran/ Cune (read: Celebi/ Heatran are offensive, and can't take too much of a beating). So, Skarmory and Blissey seem to fit nicely as members 4 and 5 of my team. Lastly, while Landorus may seem a bit of an after-thought, it's actually quite important. My entire team is actually quite slow, and I need something with a bit of pace, that can revenge stuff while still keeping momentum up. Eh, I don't know. This has become a bit tl;dr, and it was only supposed to be a quick update @_@ Anywho, comments would be greatly, greatly appreciated. I'm determined to see Suicune break into the Hall of Fame ;)

Jan 10th, 2012, 7:49:24 PM	#249
Stif247 Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Is there anyway to make it so i gain more points everytime on win a battle on PO? Its getting so old gaining 17 for every victory. Also frostfire your team looks pretty good but i recommend giga drain over leaf storm so that you can sweep and gain some of your life orb damage back. __________________ stif247 or stif24-7 on PO Peaks: 900ish UU 1350 OU 336 Ubers Shuckle+maxhp/spdef+sandstrom=power over 9000!!