Smogon University: Now Home of the Best VGC Simulator

***Antar**** · Jan 16th, 2012, 8:03:24 AM

At Aldaron's request, I did a shitton of work on a custom version of the server to get you guys better VGC support. Namely, you now have 1 minute per turn, and there's a 15-minute overall game timer. Read more here and consider having your VGC battles on our server.

Superpokemon67 · Jan 16th, 2012, 8:36:16 AM

Hmmm, this sounds interesting. Did you get the 1:30 minute time limit for team preview? I always use the extra 30 seconds in tourneys.

Unreality · Jan 16th, 2012, 9:00:14 AM

Thank you for your hard work :D

lolfailsnail · Jan 16th, 2012, 9:33:37 AM

Wow, this looks great! Thanks a lot for doing this!

***Antar**** · Jan 16th, 2012, 9:33:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Superpokemon67

Hmmm, this sounds interesting. Did you get the 1:30 minute time limit for team preview? I always use the extra 30 seconds in tourneys.

Yep.

keelhauled · Jan 16th, 2012, 10:03:39 AM

This looks great, thanks a lot for all of the hard work gone into this, it should definitely help out when it comes to prepping for regionals!

JRank · Jan 16th, 2012, 12:28:29 PM

It's ironic that we have a thread discussing the fact that playing a lot on PO is detrimental, and at the same time have a thread advertising playing on PO xD

Seriously, this looks great, thanks Antar!

**Solace*** · Jan 16th, 2012, 12:34:04 PM

ty for the great work, antar!

Superpokemon67 · Jan 16th, 2012, 12:51:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Antar

Yep.

Great! This will be a welcome change from all of the trolls and android users on Skarmbliss.

Cybertron · Jan 16th, 2012, 1:32:42 PM

There will still be trolls and android users on the Smogon server 9.9

Also, this is really awesome! Thank you for all your hard work, hopefully we more VGC players on SU now. I really look forward as you guys move on to simulating it like the real games with animations for moves and weather effects. Great job!

Superpokemon67 · Jan 16th, 2012, 1:36:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cybertron

There will still be trolls and android users on the Smogon server 9.9

9.9 THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!! at least there will actually be some people who aren't on the server solely to troll.

Human · Jan 16th, 2012, 1:37:44 PM

Great work, I remember asking coyotte508 once if a minute timer could be implemented eventually for PO so VGC can have an easier time to practice. Gives a reason to go play VGC on the Smogon server, but time limit like that so much more stressful, no damage calcs can't be done to practice with for later, but point to stress is still, this is the best for regionals practice.

Thank you for thinking about the VGC community and making update :D

**R Inanimate** · Jan 16th, 2012, 1:54:28 PM

Nice work, although I think without the communitcation time and battle animations it isn't quite the same. I'm not too sure about others but I tend to find I do a lot of my thinking for my next move while the battle animations for the previous turn are running. Though, those are pretty hard to emulate. Still good practice running on the timer.

btw, what does it choose if your timer runs out?

mattj · Jan 16th, 2012, 2:16:26 PM

You know, actually he's got an important point. I don't at all want to downplay the work that you put into this, but paying attention to the animations in normal "cart-based" gameplay is extremely important, and really is the only reason that I don't play much PO at all. The way that PO spits out the information is so foreign and unusual and hard to keep track of. Its not at all like playing on a cart.

makiri · Jan 16th, 2012, 2:24:45 PM

I urge our users to use Smogon University for VGC testing as while it is not perfect, it more closely emulates the real VGC and can further prepare you for Regionals and beyond. Smogon University also has a very intricate statistical analysis for stats that can help shape your teams.

Dragonking700 · Jan 16th, 2012, 2:35:03 PM

Well, GOODBYE SKARMBLISS SERVER! :D

**ΩDonut** · Jan 16th, 2012, 2:45:11 PM

I still experience so much lag on the server that my moves aren't even registered. Twice already I've "lost" a match even when I've selected my moves very early in the 1-minute selection period.

CalzoneCannon · Jan 16th, 2012, 2:55:03 PM

GREAT! That is perfect for VGC practice!

lucariojr · Jan 16th, 2012, 2:55:42 PM

Might actually update my PO now :o

Princess of Johto · Jan 16th, 2012, 3:02:55 PM

I don't play VGC, but still, Antar you are just awesome. Thanks for all your hard work!

makiri · Jan 16th, 2012, 3:17:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

I still experience so much lag on the server that my moves aren't even registered. Twice already I've "lost" a match even when I've selected my moves very early in the 1-minute selection period.

Lag issues will be taken care of on Wednesday with a server update.

***Antar**** · Jan 16th, 2012, 4:04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat makiri

Lag issues will be taken care of on Wednesday with a server update.

Actually, this WAS the server update. FML.

TrollFreak · Jan 16th, 2012, 4:05:49 PM

This is awesome, thanks Antar :D

Firestorm · Jan 16th, 2012, 6:32:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat mattj

You know, actually he's got an important point. I don't at all want to downplay the work that you put into this, but paying attention to the animations in normal "cart-based" gameplay is extremely important, and really is the only reason that I don't play much PO at all. The way that PO spits out the information is so foreign and unusual and hard to keep track of. Its not at all like playing on a cart.

What R Inanimate meant is that the attack animations don't take away from the 1 minute turn timer (although it does from the 15 minute match timer) and that time is often used to think about what your next move should be. Your criticism is more about Pokemon Online in general and isn't related to this update, although I know the PO guys are working on some attack animations to be more like Pokemon Showdown.

In any case, great work Antar =) Should help cut down a little on strategies used on the simulator that aren't viable in real competitive play.

**R Inanimate** · Jan 16th, 2012, 7:01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Firestorm

In any case, great work Antar =) Should help cut down a little on strategies used on the simulator that aren't viable in real competitive play.

No more Minimize Blissey + Psych Up Chansey combo. =(

Jan 16th, 2012, 8:03:24 AM	#1
*Antar That's Dr. Antar to you Super Moderator** Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,050 DC Metro Area	Smogon University: Now Home of the Best VGC Simulator At Aldaron's request, I did a shitton of work on a custom version of the server to get you guys better VGC support. Namely, you now have 1 minute per turn, and there's a 15-minute overall game timer. Read more here and consider having your VGC battles on our server. __________________ Codes and Hacks I Use PBR FC: 4898-8739-8815 (See here) Black FC: 4040 5386 0128 / White 2 FC: 4771 3664 7215 My Narrated PBR & Gen V Battles My Trade Thread Convert any sim team to pkms Pokemetrics: A Blog

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Jan 16th, 2012, 12:28:29 PM	#7
JRank Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,291	It's ironic that we have a thread discussing the fact that playing a lot on PO is detrimental, and at the same time have a thread advertising playing on PO xD Seriously, this looks great, thanks Antar!

Jan 16th, 2012, 12:34:04 PM	#8
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Jan 16th, 2012, 1:32:42 PM	#10
Cybertron Stay classy. Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,922	There will still be trolls and android users on the Smogon server 9.9 Also, this is really awesome! Thank you for all your hard work, hopefully we more VGC players on SU now. I really look forward as you guys move on to simulating it like the real games with animations for moves and weather effects. Great job!

Jan 16th, 2012, 1:37:44 PM	#12
Human Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,112 New Jersey	Great work, I remember asking coyotte508 once if a minute timer could be implemented eventually for PO so VGC can have an easier time to practice. Gives a reason to go play VGC on the Smogon server, but time limit like that so much more stressful, no damage calcs can't be done to practice with for later, but point to stress is still, this is the best for regionals practice. Thank you for thinking about the VGC community and making update :D __________________ <3csmugs

Jan 16th, 2012, 1:54:28 PM	#13
R Inanimate Serenely Graciously Flinching Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 682 Vancover, Ability Region	Nice work, although I think without the communitcation time and battle animations it isn't quite the same. I'm not too sure about others but I tend to find I do a lot of my thinking for my next move while the battle animations for the previous turn are running. Though, those are pretty hard to emulate. Still good practice running on the timer. btw, what does it choose if your timer runs out? __________________ Just another rainy day on the train... VGCS Jaunary International, 165W-30L-27D/C, 1873, 13th Place VGC 2013 Winter Regional, Salem OR, 1st Place

Jan 16th, 2012, 2:24:45 PM	#15
makiri La-li-lu-le-lo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,160 SHARK ATTACK	I urge our users to use Smogon University for VGC testing as while it is not perfect, it more closely emulates the real VGC and can further prepare you for Regionals and beyond. Smogon University also has a very intricate statistical analysis for stats that can help shape your teams. __________________

Jan 16th, 2012, 2:35:03 PM	#16
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Jan 16th, 2012, 2:45:11 PM	#17
ΩDonut sometimes experimentation begins with "let's multi battle strip pokémon" Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,691	I still experience so much lag on the server that my moves aren't even registered. Twice already I've "lost" a match even when I've selected my moves very early in the 1-minute selection period.

Jan 16th, 2012, 2:55:03 PM	#18
CalzoneCannon Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 80 Virginia	GREAT! That is perfect for VGC practice!

Jan 16th, 2012, 2:55:42 PM	#19
lucariojr stranger'n a snake's suspenders, but sweeter'n a stolen kiss Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 952 Mississippi	Might actually update my PO now :o __________________ aint i a piece of work

Jan 16th, 2012, 3:02:55 PM	#20
Princess of Johto Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,630 Ohio	I don't play VGC, but still, Antar you are just awesome. Thanks for all your hard work! __________________ » My Pokemon » BW Entralink PID+IV abuse guide » BW ID/SID+shiny starter abuse guide » HGSS Safari Zone abuse guide » Pokecheck Box

Jan 16th, 2012, 4:05:49 PM	#23
TrollFreak (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ (╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,249 New York born, New York proud	This is awesome, thanks Antar :D __________________ Work Ever wanted to contribute to Smogon? Visit the Contributions and Corrections forum! ~SNOVERS~