Community Create a Dreamy Team (restarted by harsha 2014)

**macle** · Feb 8th, 2012, 7:24:39 PM

Taken over by harsha2014: Dream World CCAT

Hello, welcome to the dreamworld installment of CCAT. For this CCAT, we are making a trick room team.

Here are the rules:

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Step 1: We pick a Pokemon to build our team around.

Step 2: We select Pokemon that work well around our Pokemon and fit the team style and test it.

Step 3: We fine-tune the team based on our experiences in test-driving the team on the ladder!

Step 4: We finalize the team and write up a 5-star RMT!

Right now, I'm accepting nominations for the Pokemon to build the team around. Please provide reasons why the community should pick your suggestion. If you don't provide reasoning, your post will be deleted.

I will start the voting on the Pokemon in a few days. Good Luck!

Team so far

Bronzong @ Macho Brace
Levitate
Brave 252/252/4/0/0/0
- Trick Room
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

AOPSUser · Feb 8th, 2012, 7:27:21 PM

Shadow Tag Chandelure

I feel this should be picked because it hits very hard and can be used in many different ways. Though it cannot set up Trick Room, 176 minimum Speed is none too shabby for Trick Room, since most Pokemon will have more than that anyway. 427 Special Attack is insane, and it can either be used as a Trick Room sweeper or something to pick off certain walls so that your other Trick Room sweepers can sweep.

TrollFreak · Feb 8th, 2012, 7:39:37 PM

Genesect @ Life Orb
Trait: Download
EVs: 88 Def / 252 SAtk / 168 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Rock Polish
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam / Bug Buzz
- Thunderbolt

Ok, I could post something generic as Shadow Tag Chandelure or Contrary Serperior, but I wanted this team to be original. Genesect is mostly know for it's Choice Scarf set, which is really good. However, with Rock Polish in it's movepool, and great base 125 Special Attack, why not turn it into a late or mid game sweeper. This set provides Genesect with enough speed to outrun Jolly Excadrill in Sand and every other Pokemon in the game after using Rock Polish. Along with Genesects ability Download (this raises his special attack stat when the opponents Pokemon's defense is larger than its special defense and vice versa) coupled with his great base defensive stats of 95 allows him to pull off the move Rock Polish and still have enough HP left to sweep a team if he is partially damaged. Ice Beam provides a definite OHKO with LO to most dragon types before and after the possible boost in special attack. However, Bug Buzz can be used as STAB, especially to take on Serperior and the Lati twins. Flamethrower makes sure Genesect can hit Steel-type Pokemon. However, this set cannot touch Heatran at all, so Pokemon that can take care of that are awesome.

AOPSUser · Feb 8th, 2012, 7:49:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat macle

For this CCAT, we are making a trick room team.

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Originally Posted by Fat TrollFreak

Genesect @ Life Orb
Trait: Download
EVs: 88 Def / 252 SAtk / 168 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Rock Polish
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam / Bug Buzz
- Thunderbolt

Ok, I could post something generic as Shadow Tag Chandelure or Contrary Serperior, but I wanted this team to be original. Genesect is mostly know for it's Choice Scarf set, which is really good. However, with Rock Polish in it's movepool, and great base 125 Special Attack, why not turn it into a late or mid game sweeper. This set provides Genesect with enough speed to outrun Jolly Excadrill in Sand and every other Pokemon in the game after using Rock Polish. Along with Genesects ability Download (this raises his special attack stat when the opponents Pokemon's defense is larger than its special defense and vice versa) coupled with his great base defensive stats of 95 allows him to pull off the move Rock Polish and still have enough HP left to sweep a team if he is partially damaged. Ice Beam provides a definite OHKO with LO to most dragon types before and after the possible boost in special attack. However, Bug Buzz can be used as STAB, especially to take on Serperior and the Lati twins. Flamethrower makes sure Genesect can hit Steel-type Pokemon. However, this set cannot touch Heatran at all, so Pokemon that can take care of that are awesome.

OK???

DDRMaster · Feb 8th, 2012, 7:49:18 PM

Amoonguss @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SpDef
Nature: Calm

- Spore
- Stun Spore
- Giga Drain
- Clear Smog

Regenerator allows Amoongus to repeatedly switch in on resisted hits such as Rotom-W's Volt Turn and Serperior's Leaf Storm. Even without much investment, CB Scizor's U-turn can only deal up to 68%, allowing Amoongus to break up your opponent's Volt Turn combination.

Spore allows Amoongus to take out one of your opponent's Pokemon, while Stun Spore allows it to cripple your opponent's sweepers after Spore has been used. Giga Drain is for STAB and to regain lost HP and Clear Smog prevents your opponent from setting up on Amoonguss and simultaneously breaks Serperior's Substitutes while removing any boosts it may have acquired from Leaf Storm.

Edit: Fast Pokemon can be used in a Trick Room team; it allows you to keep offensive pressure after Trick Room goes down. Although, Rock Polish is kind of a bad idea. If we are doing a Trick Room team, Stun Spore on Amoonguss would kind of be useless.

TrollFreak · Feb 8th, 2012, 7:52:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat AOPSUser

OK???

I know, i said as a late game sweeper, a Trick Room team shouldn't have all slow mons on it, as out of Trick Room the team is basically screwed

The Reptile · Feb 9th, 2012, 12:48:33 AM

Conkeldurr @ Leftovers
Iron Fist
0 Spe
252 HP/252 Atk/4 SpDef
Brave Nature

- Drain Punch / Hammer Arm
- Mach Punch
- Substitute / Earthquake
- Stone Edge / Payback

An amazing base 140 Attack backed up by a 20% boost that boost his main attacking options, Drain Punch and Mach Punch. Drain Punch allows Conk to heal himself off, while Hammer Arm makes him go faster and faster (under trick room). Mach Punch and Substitute might seem odd, but these 2 moves allow Conk to be useful outside of Trick Room. However, substitute is more or less filler and can be replaced with Earthquake to give EdgeQuake coverage along side with his Fighting-type. Stone Edge is coverage. Payback can be used, as it does take advantage of his lower speed outside of trick room, however, it won't do well at all during trick room, making it very unfavorable.

ala · Feb 9th, 2012, 2:19:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat AOPSUser

Shadow Tag Chandelure

I feel this should be picked because it hits very hard and can be used in many different ways. Though it cannot set up Trick Room, 176 minimum Speed is none too shabby for Trick Room, since most Pokemon will have more than that anyway. 427 Special Attack is insane, and it can either be used as a Trick Room sweeper or something to pick off certain walls so that your other Trick Room sweepers can sweep.

Yeah I second this, Chandelure is a beast in trick room.

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Originally Posted by Fat TrollFreak

I know, i said as a late game sweeper, a Trick Room team shouldn't have all slow mons on it, as out of Trick Room the team is basically screwed

In trick room it's generally necessary to have a couple faster pokemon just in case you can't get tr up, but it works better if your sweepers are all able to be effective in trick room. I'd rather use Choice Scarf Genesect as a cleaner for the wall breaking trick room sweepers. Not to mention with the RP set you lose one of Genesect's most valuable attacks in U-Turn which gives you momentum and possibly allows you to set up trick room with something.

bluemon · Feb 13th, 2012, 2:55:06 PM

breloom @life orb
252 hp 252 atk 4 def
Brave 0 speed IV

-spore
-swords dance
-bullet seed
-Mach punch

Breloom is a boss in trick room. Sweep with +2 bullet seed, and when trick room is over, hammer with Mach punch. Spore for trick room set up

**Tobes** · Feb 16th, 2012, 2:27:24 PM

Bronzong @ Macho Brace
Levitate
Brave 252/252/4/0/0/0
- Trick Room
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Bronzong provides two valuable things for Trick Room: A solid answer to Excadrill, and a Stealth Rock user. Gyro Ball hits very hard with a Macho Brace and no investment, and Earthquake provides coverage on things such as Chandelure and Excadrill. Hypnosis and Hidden Power Ice are also possible options in place of Stealth Rock.

D4RR3N · Feb 17th, 2012, 6:28:26 AM

Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Superpower
- ExtremeSpeed

Good ol gen 4 mixnite. This thing serves as a wall breaker, hitting everything in the metagame hard. Draco Meteor coming from a 328 sp attack Life Orb Dragonite 2hkos pretty much everything that isnt steel, where else Fire Blast hits steels. Superpower OHKOs Blissey, and Extremespeed helps with picking off weakened opponents when Trick Room's down.

**macle** · Feb 19th, 2012, 12:30:14 AM

Alright time to vote for the Pokemon to base off our team off of. Bold your vote and provide reasoning on why it should be chosen. Failure to do so will result in an invalid vote.

Dragonite
Bronzong
Genosect
Conkeldurr
Chandelure
Amoonguss

***Birkal**** · Feb 19th, 2012, 12:48:51 AM

Bronzong

The ability to set up TR on Excadrill is very valuable, in my opinion. Looks like a pretty good start to a team for me B)

AOPSUser · Feb 19th, 2012, 12:54:32 AM

So tough to pick...

Dragonite, on one hand, has a rather unorthodox ability, which is expected of a Life Orb user (Multiscale is useless), and we can't just use Salamence instead. However, I feel that Dragonite's main use is as a bulky set-up attacker; as someone told me on Pokemon Showdown, "If you're not using Roost or Extremespeed, you might as well use Salamence."

Genesect is a late game cleaner, and is a sweeper for when TR is not up. However, if all goes well with this team, which it should, TR will be up most of the time. It's just insane to build a Trick Room team around a Scarf Genesect.

Chandelure was my pick, and it is in the same boat as Dragonite, really. Too slow outside of TR, too fast inside TR. I really should have picked Rampardos, right? (Just kidding.)

Bronzong is a Trick Room and Stealth Rock setter. To base a team around that would kind of lean the team to Stall, what with the hazards you set up.

Conkeldurr is kind of meh without Guts, but Iron Fist is generally more reliable. (Try predicting Will-O-Wisps.) However, Iron Fist only boosts Hammer Arm, Drain Punch, and Mach Punch on the listed set. Once Trick Room runs out, and Mach Punch just doesn't do enough...

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-Is VoltTurn viable in OU?
-VoltTurn is OU.

Anything that counters VoltTurn, especially on a Trick Room team, which is generally screwed over by VoltTurn, is automatically a favorite of mine. Seriously. Amoongus is just as good as Celebi in that regard.

So my vote goes to...

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The Reptile · Feb 19th, 2012, 1:50:57 AM

Conkeldurr

Dragonite is too fast in Trick Room and too slow outside of it IMO.
Bronzong might make the team a little too stall-ish, which would be fine except this is a trick room team.
Genosect might work on the team as a sweeper outside of TR, but to build around a team around it just seems really dumb, especially since it's not scarfed, it's a set-up sweeper.
Chandelure has the same problem as Dragonite.
Amoonguss has the same problem as Bronzong.

blutrainer · Feb 19th, 2012, 3:01:18 PM

Conkeldurr
its a beast period, with 140 base attack and being as slow as it is conkeldurr is possibly the best choice for a TR team and any team in general

BTzz · Feb 19th, 2012, 4:45:34 PM

Bronzong

I don't think OTR zong would make the team stallish at all :/. Along with being a great defensive pivot, zong is an incredible late-game sweeper vs the omnipresent offensive teams as zong will usually has a base 150 power Gyro Ball at its disposal. Oh and without Bronzong, its going to be very difficult to fit in Stealth Rock on the team as it is one of the only viable TR abusers that can learn it (i think we're gonna need rocks for Chandy, Thundurus, Dragonite etc).

**macle** · Feb 22nd, 2012, 5:08:08 PM

Vote will be over on sunday so vote

DarkCelebi · Feb 23rd, 2012, 5:13:49 AM

Bronzong

Bronzong because it can bring TrickRoom on the Field by itself, as where the others have less time actually sweeping since they need to switch in after the use of Trickroom from a team member. Second i like that it almost always will have max power Gyro Ball due to the Macho Brace.

dragonboy52 · Feb 23rd, 2012, 5:16:26 AM

Conkledurr

Plusle · Feb 23rd, 2012, 12:36:35 PM

Bronzong

VictiniforVictory · Feb 23rd, 2012, 12:58:36 PM

Bronzong because it can take hits incredibly well and deliver them well if it is backed up with max attack gyro ball.

HardCore · Feb 24th, 2012, 1:41:42 PM

Brongzong

Bronzong will always be a good TR Pokemon. In this meta-game with fast pace pokemon that run few defensive evs I think Bronzong could get pretty far mid to late game with Gyroball and Earthquake alone. His third slot would either have explosion, Zen Headbutt, or maybe Hp ice. Hp ice OTR Zong would completely wreck most sand teams and do fairly well against sun also. Although it wouldn't do much against a rain team it would Get up TR with ease.

**macle** · Feb 26th, 2012, 2:59:01 PM

Alright Bronzong won the vote 6-4. Now its time to discuss partners for it.

BTzz · Feb 28th, 2012, 9:27:32 PM

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Trait: Sandstream
EVs: 192 HP / 252 Atk / 64 SpA
Brave nature (+Atk, -Spe)
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Stone Edge / Rockslide
- Fire Blast

Tyranitar's speed is sufficient for TR sweeping, and it gives us a way to handle opposing rain and sun teams (Bronzong is a good check to sand sweepers, so it doesn't matter that we're proving sand for the opponent). Tyranitar also checks some top threats such as Heatran, Chandelure and Latios outside of Trick Room. Fire Blast 2HKOs Skarmory, who will just Spike on Bronzong all day. Ice Beam is an option since Bronzong can't do anything to Gliscor, however Gliscor can really do anything to Bronzong so I think taking out skarm is the better option.

Feb 8th, 2012, 7:27:21 PM	#2
AOPSUser Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,742 San Diego (GMT -8)	Shadow Tag Chandelure I feel this should be picked because it hits very hard and can be used in many different ways. Though it cannot set up Trick Room, 176 minimum Speed is none too shabby for Trick Room, since most Pokemon will have more than that anyway. 427 Special Attack is insane, and it can either be used as a Trick Room sweeper or something to pick off certain walls so that your other Trick Room sweepers can sweep. __________________ My Scramble Compendium CAP ASB Team Shuckle sweep HARVESTTTTTT 17:37 Gem that dick 17:37 Gem i like 17:37 Gem :D

Feb 8th, 2012, 7:39:37 PM	#3
TrollFreak (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ (╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,249 New York born, New York proud	Genesect @ Life Orb Trait: Download EVs: 88 Def / 252 SAtk / 168 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Rock Polish - Flamethrower - Ice Beam / Bug Buzz - Thunderbolt Ok, I could post something generic as Shadow Tag Chandelure or Contrary Serperior, but I wanted this team to be original. Genesect is mostly know for it's Choice Scarf set, which is really good. However, with Rock Polish in it's movepool, and great base 125 Special Attack, why not turn it into a late or mid game sweeper. This set provides Genesect with enough speed to outrun Jolly Excadrill in Sand and every other Pokemon in the game after using Rock Polish. Along with Genesects ability Download (this raises his special attack stat when the opponents Pokemon's defense is larger than its special defense and vice versa) coupled with his great base defensive stats of 95 allows him to pull off the move Rock Polish and still have enough HP left to sweep a team if he is partially damaged. Ice Beam provides a definite OHKO with LO to most dragon types before and after the possible boost in special attack. However, Bug Buzz can be used as STAB, especially to take on Serperior and the Lati twins. Flamethrower makes sure Genesect can hit Steel-type Pokemon. However, this set cannot touch Heatran at all, so Pokemon that can take care of that are awesome. __________________ Work Ever wanted to contribute to Smogon? Visit the Contributions and Corrections forum! ~SNOVERS~

Feb 9th, 2012, 12:48:33 AM	#7
The Reptile Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 645 DreMZ on PS! (´･ω･`)	Conkeldurr @ Leftovers Iron Fist 0 Spe 252 HP/252 Atk/4 SpDef Brave Nature - Drain Punch / Hammer Arm - Mach Punch - Substitute / Earthquake - Stone Edge / Payback An amazing base 140 Attack backed up by a 20% boost that boost his main attacking options, Drain Punch and Mach Punch. Drain Punch allows Conk to heal himself off, while Hammer Arm makes him go faster and faster (under trick room). Mach Punch and Substitute might seem odd, but these 2 moves allow Conk to be useful outside of Trick Room. However, substitute is more or less filler and can be replaced with Earthquake to give EdgeQuake coverage along side with his Fighting-type. Stone Edge is coverage. Payback can be used, as it does take advantage of his lower speed outside of trick room, however, it won't do well at all during trick room, making it very unfavorable. __________________ I do the arts now! :D

Feb 16th, 2012, 2:27:24 PM	#10
Tobes Woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,253 GONER	Bronzong @ Macho Brace Levitate Brave 252/252/4/0/0/0 - Trick Room - Gyro Ball - Earthquake - Stealth Rock Bronzong provides two valuable things for Trick Room: A solid answer to Excadrill, and a Stealth Rock user. Gyro Ball hits very hard with a Macho Brace and no investment, and Earthquake provides coverage on things such as Chandelure and Excadrill. Hypnosis and Hidden Power Ice are also possible options in place of Stealth Rock. __________________

Feb 17th, 2012, 6:28:26 AM	#11
D4RR3N Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 737	Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Inner Focus EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd) - Draco Meteor - Fire Blast - Superpower - ExtremeSpeed Good ol gen 4 mixnite. This thing serves as a wall breaker, hitting everything in the metagame hard. Draco Meteor coming from a 328 sp attack Life Orb Dragonite 2hkos pretty much everything that isnt steel, where else Fire Blast hits steels. Superpower OHKOs Blissey, and Extremespeed helps with picking off weakened opponents when Trick Room's down. __________________ I'm back :)

Feb 13th, 2012, 2:55:06 PM	#9
bluemon Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,498 ♠ AmoongBro ♠	breloom @life orb 252 hp 252 atk 4 def Brave 0 speed IV -spore -swords dance -bullet seed -Mach punch Breloom is a boss in trick room. Sweep with +2 bullet seed, and when trick room is over, hammer with Mach punch. Spore for trick room set up

Feb 19th, 2012, 12:30:14 AM	#12
macle ribbit Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,724 Wisconsin Mentor	Alright time to vote for the Pokemon to base off our team off of. Bold your vote and provide reasoning on why it should be chosen. Failure to do so will result in an invalid vote. Dragonite Bronzong Genosect Conkeldurr Chandelure Amoonguss __________________ Art for Articles Help Write In-game Articles

Feb 19th, 2012, 12:48:51 AM	#13
*Birkal We have the technology. Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,017 The Mentor	Bronzong The ability to set up TR on Excadrill is very valuable, in my opinion. Looks like a pretty good start to a team for me B) __________________

Feb 19th, 2012, 1:50:57 AM	#15
The Reptile Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 645 DreMZ on PS! (´･ω･`)	Conkeldurr Dragonite is too fast in Trick Room and too slow outside of it IMO. Bronzong might make the team a little too stall-ish, which would be fine except this is a trick room team. Genosect might work on the team as a sweeper outside of TR, but to build around a team around it just seems really dumb, especially since it's not scarfed, it's a set-up sweeper. Chandelure has the same problem as Dragonite. Amoonguss has the same problem as Bronzong. __________________ I do the arts now! :D

Feb 19th, 2012, 3:01:18 PM	#16
blutrainer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 22 somewhere in the milky way	Conkeldurr its a beast period, with 140 base attack and being as slow as it is conkeldurr is possibly the best choice for a TR team and any team in general __________________ Cant beat the original dragon!!!! Why do the Decepticons always get the good shit!?

Feb 19th, 2012, 4:45:34 PM	#17
BTzz don't be scared homie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 688 Canada	Bronzong I don't think OTR zong would make the team stallish at all :/. Along with being a great defensive pivot, zong is an incredible late-game sweeper vs the omnipresent offensive teams as zong will usually has a base 150 power Gyro Ball at its disposal. Oh and without Bronzong, its going to be very difficult to fit in Stealth Rock on the team as it is one of the only viable TR abusers that can learn it (i think we're gonna need rocks for Chandy, Thundurus, Dragonite etc).

Feb 22nd, 2012, 5:08:08 PM	#18
macle ribbit Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,724 Wisconsin Mentor	Vote will be over on sunday so vote __________________ Art for Articles Help Write In-game Articles

Feb 23rd, 2012, 5:13:49 AM	#19
DarkCelebi Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 6 Germany	Bronzong Bronzong because it can bring TrickRoom on the Field by itself, as where the others have less time actually sweeping since they need to switch in after the use of Trickroom from a team member. Second i like that it almost always will have max power Gyro Ball due to the Macho Brace.

Feb 23rd, 2012, 5:16:26 AM	#20
dragonboy52 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,964	Conkledurr __________________

Feb 23rd, 2012, 12:36:35 PM	#21
Plusle Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,041	Bronzong __________________ VGC 2011 Seniors UK 1st \| VGC 2012 Seniors UK 4th \| Worlds 2011 18th \| Worlds 2012 19th \| Winter Battle and International Challenge January Seniors 1st

Feb 23rd, 2012, 12:58:36 PM	#22
VictiniforVictory Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 19 Up Your ASS	Bronzong because it can take hits incredibly well and deliver them well if it is backed up with max attack gyro ball. __________________ Half the people on this forum are extremely rude in-game. If you believe in politeness both in-battle and outside it, put this in your signature if i find a cheese burger in this place. its gonna be a one man cheese burger apocalypse

Feb 24th, 2012, 1:41:42 PM	#23
HardCore Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 254 Detroit, Michigan	Brongzong Bronzong will always be a good TR Pokemon. In this meta-game with fast pace pokemon that run few defensive evs I think Bronzong could get pretty far mid to late game with Gyroball and Earthquake alone. His third slot would either have explosion, Zen Headbutt, or maybe Hp ice. Hp ice OTR Zong would completely wreck most sand teams and do fairly well against sun also. Although it wouldn't do much against a rain team it would Get up TR with ease. __________________ Float like the Cassius swing like the Clay Youtube- HQHardCore- Great honest commentaries on quality OU battles whether I win or lose!

Feb 26th, 2012, 2:59:01 PM	#24
macle ribbit Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,724 Wisconsin Mentor	Alright Bronzong won the vote 6-4. Now its time to discuss partners for it. __________________ Art for Articles Help Write In-game Articles

Feb 28th, 2012, 9:27:32 PM	#25
BTzz don't be scared homie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 688 Canada	Tyranitar @ Leftovers Trait: Sandstream EVs: 192 HP / 252 Atk / 64 SpA Brave nature (+Atk, -Spe) - Crunch - Pursuit - Stone Edge / Rockslide - Fire Blast Tyranitar's speed is sufficient for TR sweeping, and it gives us a way to handle opposing rain and sun teams (Bronzong is a good check to sand sweepers, so it doesn't matter that we're proving sand for the opponent). Tyranitar also checks some top threats such as Heatran, Chandelure and Latios outside of Trick Room. Fire Blast 2HKOs Skarmory, who will just Spike on Bronzong all day. Ice Beam is an option since Bronzong can't do anything to Gliscor, however Gliscor can really do anything to Bronzong so I think taking out skarm is the better option.