VGC '12 Japanese Championships

Bangisan · Feb 10th, 2012, 5:36:42 AM

Thread to talk about Japanese qualification Tournament (are there any japanese players in Smogon? They would help us greatly with this thread).

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The Japan Cup - 2012 Spring WiFi tournament will also run in March, exclusive to Japanese players, which is used to determine qualification for the World Championship this year.

So, the Japanese are doing a new qualification format using wi-fi and allowing everybody from their houses to play for qualify to Hawai. This is a very interesting way to do this, increasing a lot the number of players and decreasing the wasting of money at the same time.

Massi · Feb 10th, 2012, 7:30:26 AM

It is not exactly as you described. They do not get an invite for Worlds in the WiFi tournament, they get an invite for a qualification tournament for Worlds ;) So in some way it is like this: WiFi tournament = "regionals" and the other qualification tournament = "nationals".

Here is the link to the japanese site: http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2012/02/120210_e01.html

Someone from a German forum translated it and posted the news on the front page in the 2nd post (www.filb.de)

Matty85 · Feb 10th, 2012, 8:35:29 AM

Disconnection will be a big problem...

Exclamation! · Feb 10th, 2012, 9:39:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Matty85

Disconnection will be a big problem...

My toughts exactly. Maybe they'll make so that a disconection=dequalification?

Superpokemon67 · Feb 10th, 2012, 10:08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Matty85

Disconnection will be a big problem...

I agree. Even if it DQs you, they should have an LCQ for all of those people with bad internet. If I recall correctly, I remember reading the household Wi-Fi isn't as common in Japan, so many people will be forced to use a public Wi-Fi service.

GreySong · Feb 10th, 2012, 12:38:54 PM

So, either way, it sounds like the Japanese will return to Worlds this year. This will be very nice! A lot of people missed them competing last year.

Dozz · Feb 10th, 2012, 12:43:50 PM

Maybe they won't have an "LCQ" as such for it, but it'l be like the US set up this year, where if you win a regional, you get a couple of byes to help you on your way. This way it's not a necessity, but more of a bonus for those that can do it, and not DC when it goes wrong.

Deitylight · Feb 10th, 2012, 1:50:51 PM

I sense failure, if I recall NA was going to do something like this but canceled it because of the massive amounts of d/c we kept getting.
Although I'm glad to hear the Japanese are coming back into the competitive scene.

soul_survivor · Feb 10th, 2012, 2:35:28 PM

Interesting but nothing beats the experience of going to a reg/nats and meeting people(Im pretty sure jp have their own doubles community). So err how will we know winning teams now. Well lets see how it plays out.

MavsObbession · Feb 11th, 2012, 10:59:45 PM

At least Japan's coming back! I'd like to see their strategies!

GARCHOMPZILLA · Feb 11th, 2012, 11:23:42 PM

I'll bet you the U.S. won't be having any world champs this year... :(

Cybertron · Feb 11th, 2012, 11:24:58 PM

Sure, I'll gladly take you on that bet.

GARCHOMPZILLA · Feb 11th, 2012, 11:39:33 PM

Also,

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Originally Posted by Fat MavsObbession

At least Japan's coming back! I'd like to see their strategies!

Most likely at least a few of them will be testing them out on Random matchup or elsewhere, I've seen a few do cresselia with safegaurd followed by swaggering their own garchomp, but that's probably not the majority.

also it's possible we might win juniors (go babbytron!) and maybe ray will win win masters, but at the very least most likely everyone from japan at worlds is going to have some serious strategy, possibly some new ones nobody's thought of yet. I predict some weather teams but more than 30-40% of them.

Cybertron · Feb 11th, 2012, 11:50:46 PM

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...but at the very least most likely everyone from japan at worlds is going to have some serious strategy, possibly some new ones nobody's thought of yet. I predict some weather teams but more than 30-40% of them.

I'm not trying to be mean or rude, but I really felt the need to respond to your post. Of course everyone from Japan is going to have a serious strategy at Worlds. It's the event of the year, and obviously, everyone's goal is to become World Champion. Why in the world would anyone use a non-serious team? Worlds is also where the most creative, unique, and just well rounded teams come out, of course we'll be seeing strategies/teams we haven't seen before. And what does the last sentence of your post mean? How can you possibly predict, with percentages and numbers, what the metagame for Worlds will be like when its half a year and the majority of VGC 2012 events haven't even taken place?

/sigh

LudiImpact · Feb 11th, 2012, 11:56:59 PM

Wow the Japanese got their own thread. That's how much we fear them. Hahahahahah
Oh and Garchompzilla, you said Babbytron has Juniors and Ray has Masters. You forgot Cybertron winning Seniors. Let's go Zhengs!

kamz · Feb 12th, 2012, 12:47:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat GARCHOMPZILLA

also it's possible we might win juniors (go babbytron!) and maybe ray will win win masters

I see how it is -_-

GARCHOMPZILLA · Feb 12th, 2012, 12:54:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat kamz

I see how it is -_-

and kamz might win, but will aaron win instead?
(or some other random person, If you win worlds once that doesn't necessarily mean you'll win again, that's been true for every person save 1 so far.)

nightwolf · Feb 12th, 2012, 7:21:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat GARCHOMPZILLA

and kamz might win, but will aaron win instead?
(or some other random person, If you win worlds once that doesn't necessarily mean you'll win again, that's been true for every person save 1 so far.)

True but you'll never know until the pokeballs start flying. Saying "I'll bet you the U.S. won't be having any world champs this year... :(" is a bit dramatic imho.

soul_survivor · Feb 12th, 2012, 7:42:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat GARCHOMPZILLA

I'll bet you the U.S. won't be having any world champs this year... :(

You sir have no AMERICAN Pride. Look at Ray beating 3 japanese in a row to win it all at 2010.

To make this post somewhat relevant will there be a actual irl tournament for jp or is this THE tournament to see who goes and who doesn't?

GARCHOMPZILLA · Feb 12th, 2012, 7:56:49 PM

My guess is yes, because (and correct me if I'm wrong) otherwise you couldn't get an invite to worlds, only a qualification. And that seems kind of cheap considering the fact that a player would have to travel to the oher side of the world to get to worlds, while for us it's in our own country and sometimes our own state.(depending where you live)

Calm_Lava · Feb 13th, 2012, 1:12:23 PM

So this tournament for the japanese takes place of having actual regionals at different locations? I ask because i have a friend stationed in Chatan Japan and he was hoping to be able to attend some regionals there since he cant be here in the US for them.

If that is not the case, then does anyone know where i could find a list of where the japanese regionals are at?

Zog · Feb 13th, 2012, 1:29:30 PM

Ray beats Japanese people because he plays like a Japanese person lol, just sayin.

So looking forward to worlds now though lol (not that I wasn't in the first place).

BlueCookies · Feb 14th, 2012, 6:17:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat GARCHOMPZILLA

I'll bet you the U.S. won't be having any world champs this year... :(

man I may as well not even show up this year

Sapphire Birch · Feb 14th, 2012, 8:16:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cybertron

I'm not trying to be mean or rude, but I really felt the need to respond to your post. Of course everyone from Japan is going to have a serious strategy at Worlds. It's the event of the year, and obviously, everyone's goal is to become World Champion. Why in the world would anyone use a non-serious team? Worlds is also where the most creative, unique, and just well rounded teams come out, of course we'll be seeing strategies/teams we haven't seen before. And what does the last sentence of your post mean? How can you possibly predict, with percentages and numbers, what the metagame for Worlds will be like when its half a year and the majority of VGC 2012 events haven't even taken place?

/sigh

this. :|

GARCHOMPZILLA · Feb 14th, 2012, 8:17:58 PM

sorry, that might've been a little too pessimistic. I Wonder if ray will have to face Yasuki Tochigi again at worlds?

Feb 10th, 2012, 8:35:29 AM	#3
Matty85 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 229 Italy	Disconnection will be a big problem... __________________ 2nd place 2011 Pokémon World Championship - Master Division 2nd place Italian VGC 2011 - Master Division

Feb 10th, 2012, 12:38:54 PM	#6
GreySong Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 375 Illinois	So, either way, it sounds like the Japanese will return to Worlds this year. This will be very nice! A lot of people missed them competing last year. __________________ Officially moved to NuggetBridge.

Feb 10th, 2012, 12:43:50 PM	#7
Dozz Has anyone in this family ever seen a chicken? Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 523 England	Maybe they won't have an "LCQ" as such for it, but it'l be like the US set up this year, where if you win a regional, you get a couple of byes to help you on your way. This way it's not a necessity, but more of a bonus for those that can do it, and not DC when it goes wrong. __________________

Feb 10th, 2012, 2:35:28 PM	#9
soul_survivor Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 876 StatenIsland, NY	Interesting but nothing beats the experience of going to a reg/nats and meeting people(Im pretty sure jp have their own doubles community). So err how will we know winning teams now. Well lets see how it plays out. __________________ FC: 2709 6546 0200

Feb 11th, 2012, 10:59:45 PM	#10
MavsObbession Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 299 Helpful Posts: 0	At least Japan's coming back! I'd like to see their strategies! __________________ Some of My VGC RMT Rates: VGC Trick Room Rate \| VGC Goodstuffs Rate #5 PM or VM me for a VGC rate!

Feb 10th, 2012, 7:30:26 AM	#2
Massi Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,353 Wetter, Germany	It is not exactly as you described. They do not get an invite for Worlds in the WiFi tournament, they get an invite for a qualification tournament for Worlds ;) So in some way it is like this: WiFi tournament = "regionals" and the other qualification tournament = "nationals". Here is the link to the japanese site: http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2012/02/120210_e01.html Someone from a German forum translated it and posted the news on the front page in the 2nd post (www.filb.de)

Feb 10th, 2012, 1:50:51 PM	#8
Deitylight Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 51	I sense failure, if I recall NA was going to do something like this but canceled it because of the massive amounts of d/c we kept getting. Although I'm glad to hear the Japanese are coming back into the competitive scene.

Feb 11th, 2012, 11:23:42 PM	#11
GARCHOMPZILLA Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 307 New York	I'll bet you the U.S. won't be having any world champs this year... :( __________________ Rushing into battle without a strategy is being brave. Rushing into battle without thinking is being an idiot.

Feb 11th, 2012, 11:24:58 PM	#12
Cybertron Stay classy. Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,922	Sure, I'll gladly take you on that bet.

Feb 11th, 2012, 11:56:59 PM	#15
LudiImpact Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 310 Alex Morgan<3	Wow the Japanese got their own thread. That's how much we fear them. Hahahahahah Oh and Garchompzilla, you said Babbytron has Juniors and Ray has Masters. You forgot Cybertron winning Seniors. Let's go Zhengs!

Feb 12th, 2012, 7:56:49 PM	#20
GARCHOMPZILLA Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 307 New York	My guess is yes, because (and correct me if I'm wrong) otherwise you couldn't get an invite to worlds, only a qualification. And that seems kind of cheap considering the fact that a player would have to travel to the oher side of the world to get to worlds, while for us it's in our own country and sometimes our own state.(depending where you live) __________________ Rushing into battle without a strategy is being brave. Rushing into battle without thinking is being an idiot.

Feb 13th, 2012, 1:12:23 PM	#21
Calm_Lava Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 48 Tulsa, Oklahoma	So this tournament for the japanese takes place of having actual regionals at different locations? I ask because i have a friend stationed in Chatan Japan and he was hoping to be able to attend some regionals there since he cant be here in the US for them. If that is not the case, then does anyone know where i could find a list of where the japanese regionals are at?

Feb 13th, 2012, 1:29:30 PM	#22
Zog Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 931 i'm the kinda trainer that's built to last if you battle me i'll put ma foot in ya ass	Ray beats Japanese people because he plays like a Japanese person lol, just sayin. So looking forward to worlds now though lol (not that I wasn't in the first place). __________________ World's best Brit, magical girl* and SERIAL REPROBATE.* Want to become a genius like me? Buy me a drink and we'll talk, pal. ゆっくりしていってね *YUKKURI SHITEITTE NE!!! yaranaika!!!*

Feb 14th, 2012, 8:17:58 PM	#25
GARCHOMPZILLA Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 307 New York	sorry, that might've been a little too pessimistic. I Wonder if ray will have to face Yasuki Tochigi again at worlds? __________________ Rushing into battle without a strategy is being brave. Rushing into battle without thinking is being an idiot.