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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 3:20:29 PM   #2701
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@Jimera0, Shenron is back but has been corrupted by the lack of negative wishes, it is now Omega Shenron. Take Omega the Makuhita (since you picked Croconaw), instead of granting wishes, it gives you choices for its requirements. You must catch it on the first encounter and purify ASAP. The only restriction before purification is that it may only use Shadow moves. After purification, you must choose 1 restriction from each of the following 3 categories:

Moves
Cannot use Fighting moves
Can only use Fighting moves
Must have 3 Status moves

Battling
Choice Locked
Under the effect of Taunt
Under the Effect of Torment

Evolution/Items
Cannot Evolve at all but may use any items at any time
Cannot Evolve until level 45 and may only use items outside of battle
Can evolve whenever but may not have items used on it

Once you pick, you cannot change the restrictions. Also, it must always be within 5 levels of your highest level Pokemon.

Good luck!

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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 3:46:18 PM   #2702
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Hey! I'm interested in doing a Red scramble! I cannot trade, and I want it to be as hard as you can make it. Thanks in advance!

Slot 1:
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Slot 2:
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Slot 3:
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Slot 4:
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Slot 5:
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Slot 6:
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All right, my team is all set! Thanks to everyone who contributed!

EDIT: This is my first Scramble Challange, so I want it to be exciting.

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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 3:50:13 PM   #2703
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Reserving Boo the _____ for timeel39

I'll think of the mon in a moment and get you your restrictions soon.


Edit: You get Boo the Abra!!

Boo says "Boo" to the mainstream Abra!! It wants to get Physical!!

Let it Punch everything with it's Mega strength!! Let Boo pound your foes into Submission!! While your foes run in terror, Reflect upon your actions and pretend to be a Metronome!!

Evolve after soloing your rival. Obtain half of your moveset before your solo of the fighting Dojo. You must obtain the said moveset before you solo Blaine. Finally, solo Bruno to prove your poweress!!
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 4:04:54 PM   #2704
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Hey! I'm interested in doing a Red scramble! I cannot trade, and I want it to be as hard as you can make it. Thanks in advance!

Slot 1: Empty
Slot 2: Empty
Slot 3: Empty
Slot 4: Empty
Slot 5: Empty
Slot 6: Empty
There is six steps

1) Kill all Pokemon until you complete step 2

2) Catch 4 Beedrill

3) Call the first one HH, The second one HT, The third one TH and the last one TT

4) Flip 2 coins and get the Beedrill like it (Heads is H,Tails is T)

5) The movesets are limited to the number of the Beedrill: HH has 1 moveslot, HT has 2 moveslots etc

6) Release the other 3 Beedrill!!!!!
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 4:37:16 PM   #2705
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Alright, I have all 6 Pokemon now! This is just a reference post for now though... I'll make an official post for my 400th post just because I can. Anyway, here's the team, with my choices, assumptions and comments in bold.

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Jimera0, Take Mario the Espeon

That is right, you choose your mon.

Please note that your mon must come from area 1!! Since I've already been assigned the two catchables from Phenac City and an Umbreon, I pretty much have to go with Espeon to keep in the spirit of this requirement, which is obviously intended to ensure I get Mario ASAP.

You have Mario's standard 5 lives. If it faints, it loses a life.

You get some defenses though via powerups:

- Standard Mushroom (Solo a mon who has a type advantage): you gain 1 Faint counter (max of 2). Faint counters allow you to faint once without losing a life.
- Star (Solo a boss mon): allows you to evolve if you are able. If you are unable, then it gets immortality in this battle and the next 2.
- Mega Mushroom (Survive a Supereffective attack and go from green-red HP): may now use moves with over 100 BP (this includes STAB).
- Micro Mushroom (OHKO a mon without a SE move): you are now allowed to use Non-damaging moves.
- Fire Flower (2KO 5 Fire types without STAB): may use moves with added effects up to 70BP.
- Squirrel Suit (Collect 10 feathers by OHKOing 10 birds): you may now be allowed to switch out in battle.

Please Take note that these restrictions DO stack.

Summary of restrictions before powerups:
- Evolvable only by soloing a "boss mon"
- No moves over 100 BP, including STAB bonus
- No non-damaging moves
- No moves with added effects
- No switching out of battle
- This is going to be rough

If you happen to lose all of your lives, rename your mon Boo and now you must only have one Non-STAB offensive move and three non-attacking moves. You cannot attack a mon with green HP.

Good luck :)
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Here's a pretty simple challenge, then. Take an Umbreon. (How fortunate, looks like you start with him!) Your Umbreon's a bit of a Kleptomaniac, it seems; he starts off every battle by using Snatch (don't ever replace it!), and refuses to use any direct damage dealing moves each battle until he's managed to Snatch at least one move from the enemy. Can use indirect moves after snatch has been used once instead of snatching until an effect is stolen.
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Reserving for Jimera. Will edit in a few.

EDIT: Jimera, take Voice the ___________. Voice must be caught at Phenac City. Now depending upon your choice of 4 pokemon, the restrictions continue from there. Choose one, and open its hide tag.

Makuhita
...

Bayleef
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Quilava
...

Croconaw
...


Now, with that done, make your song choice for your audition (I'll give you the links to some of my favorite songs, and choose one to open the hide tag for:

It's Not My Time:
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Photograph:
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Crawling:
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Wave Your Flag:
...


Whichever song you choose, great job! All the judges turned around for you! Now, you must choose a judge. Open only that hide tag(for your restrictions):

Adam

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Cee-Lo
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Cristina
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Blake
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No matter what you choose, Voice must solo a Coloseeum once, and after every KO, you must say/write/sing "My voice is so _______"

Have fun, and good luck!

Restriction Summary:
- Take a Croconaw
- Only one move over 70 BP allowed
- Only 5 Super effective attacks per a fight
- Maximum of 2 KOs per a battle
- Must have chosen partner Pokemon participate at some time in his battles
- Must be hit by either a Status or STAB move before attacking directly
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Because I have so much schoolwork lately, I'm giving you this set.


Jimera, take a Slugma and name it DR.PROTECT.
This Slugma is a national protector of Fire-types, and gets tired of it.
So, it must use Yawn against all fire types that it sees. That also means Slugma must switch in against all fire types to use Yawn. This will help Mario get his Fire Flower :)
After evolution, it thinks it has the effects of Shell Smash on, so it has to set up Reflect and Light Screen when it comes in , instead of Yawn. But it must keep Yawn.
After Reflect and Light Screen have been used 5 times in total each, it thinks protecting isn't boring anymore, and can forget Yawn and not have to come in against all fire types.
It also has to have at least 1 attacking move at all times.
Have fun!
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Reserving the Swablu from Pyrite Cave for Jimera. Edits in a minute.

This is pretty useful for seeing Swablu and Altaria's moves in Colosseum.

Swablu's ability, as it always has been, is Natural Cure! Sounds homeopathic, right? Delightful. You know what else are homeopathic? Those cologne scents you can get from the shop in Agate!

Because Swablu requires its curing from Shadowistis to be natural, you may never call Swablu out of Hyper Mode. (I think that's what it's called, been a while since I played.) For every time that Swablu enters Hyper Mode, you must buy the cologne of medium price and use it (buy some in advance if you're going through a large area!) to calm Swablu down after battle.

Unfortunately, the cures don't seem to have worked! Your Swablu has been purified, but now it's evolved into a raging monster, acting like a terrible Dragon! To counter this, if you teach your Altaria any Dragon-type moves, you must also let it learn Refresh via level-up, as this will definitely keep your Altaria as it's perky and chipper self!

Additionally, any time a Dragon-type move is used, you must soothe Altaria after battle with another cologne. (I believe these can be used on purified Pokemon, but if it turns out they can't be then just ignore this.) (Upon review was decided to ignore)

You're afraid to let Altaria be corrupted by the monstrosities that ruined her before, so she may never be in battle against a Shadow Pokemon. Additionally, keep her away from opposing Dark-types. Your Umbreon is fine though, they can double battle.

Summary:
- Cannot be called out of Hyper Mode
- Keep track of # of Hyper Mode entries. Buy a medium priced cologne for each time and use it on Swablu until purified
- If Altaria learns a dragon type move, must also learn Refresh by level up (but not necessarily required to use)
- Cannot battle Dark types or Shadow Pokemon after evolution.
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@Jimera0, Shenron is back but has been corrupted by the lack of negative wishes, it is now Omega Shenron. Take Omega the Makuhita (since you picked Croconaw), instead of granting wishes, it gives you choices for its requirements. You must catch it on the first encounter and purify ASAP. Only restriction before purification is that it may only use Shadow moves. After purification, you must choose 1 restriction from each of the following 3 categories:

Moves
Cannot use Fighting moves
Can only use Fighting moves
Must have 3 Status moves
Will probably choose either the first or second option, not sure which.

Battling
Choice Locked
Under the effect of Taunt
Under the Effect of Torment
Probably will pick Torment

Evolution/Items
Cannot Evolve at all but may use any items at any time
Cannot Evolve until level 45 and may only use items outside of battle
Can evolve whenever but may not have items used on it
Probably will pick level 45 for the compromise, or just screw items and evolve whenever. Not sure yet though, depends on how pathetic it is when unevolved. Going by my past experiences with Makuhita though, I'm predicting I'll just end up screwing items.

Once you pick, you cannot change your mind. It must always be within 5 levels of your highest level Pokemon.

Good luck!
Alright, finally I ask that everyone who submitted me challenges read over them and confirm that I have them right. I'd rather not put up an update only to hear from someone "that's not what I meant!" once I'm already half-way through it. Also, I have decided, based on input from others and my own intuition, that "Soloing a boss Pokemon" is equivalent to soloing any pokemon owned by a "boss" in the game (which are generally fairly obvious iirc). "Soloing" means being the only Pokemon to use moves against the boss Pokemon. If anyone has issue with this, bring that up as well. I'm going to start writing up my official update post now, so I hope someone else posts in the meantime so I don't have to double post.\

Also: Geeze, you guys went kind of hard on me. This isn't the worst I've seen but it'll probably be the hardest I've had so far.
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 4:51:43 PM   #2706
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This post is to keep Jimera0 from double posting. Your welcome. Be sure to let us know what Omega's final restrictions are after you decide.
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 5:02:12 PM   #2707
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This post is to keep Jimera0 from double posting. Your welcome. Be sure to let us know what Omega's final restrictions are after you decide.
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 5:10:16 PM   #2708
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Jimera0, look at the bright side. All you have to do is fill the requirements and *poof* your restrictions are decreased :P
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 5:18:04 PM   #2709
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Alright everyone, hello and welcome to my 400th post, which has coincidentally coincided with my 5th Scramble Challange! This time I’m taking the plunge into Pokemon Colosseum, a game I haven’t played in years and only ever beaten once. As such, I don’t remember a lot of things about it, so maybe it’ll be a little fresher than my past ones. Also, it turned out rather hard though I did not specify a difficulty, so I’m just going to go ahead and call it a “hard” scramble. Anyway, enough of me jabbering, let’s get started!

The Team:


Note: Anything in bold is something I added, be it a comment, a choice or a change negotiated with the giver.

King Serperiors Mario the Espeon


Showsni’s Umbreon


Axmaster’s Voice the Croconaw/Feraligatr


gamer40000’s DR.PROTECT the Slugma/Magcargo


Mafeking’s Swablu/Altaria


Super Saiyan’s Shenron the Makuhita/Hariyama


The Story so Far:

Chapter 1: Start Engine, Crash and Burn


Chapter 2: Transparency, the Movie


Chapter 3: Rescue from Despair


Chapter 4: Improbable Architecture Conquered


Chapter 5: Backtracking for Fun and Profit


Chapter 6: Thunderstruck!


Chapter 7: Slightly Better than Grinding


Chapter 8: Familiar Faces


Chapter 9: Climactic Anti-Climax


Chapter 10: Gotta Catch'em All!


End of Scramble Summary
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 5:18:12 PM   #2710
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Yep, that's what I had in mind and you chose. Also SS, when will you choose your Hard Scramble pokes?

EDIT: Congrats on 400 Jimera!!
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 5:53:01 PM   #2711
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@Axmaster68, It will be my next post.

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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 6:27:10 PM   #2712
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Seraphinu has requested that I give her a second Homestuck based mon since everyone else has failed so epicly in giving her a final one.

So my dear friend Alex, take a starter of your choice and name it Alex after yourself! Wait, what does this have to do with Homestuck you may ask? Well you see the premise here is that YOU, yes you, have been entered into POKE SBURB!!! Your fellow teammates are your fellow server members. You are the first to enter the game, and are the Client player of the second Pokemon you obtain. In turn, you are the Server player to the final Pokemon you catch and bring into the game, completing the loop. Your Server Pokemon is responsible for coming in and protecting you whenever you get in trouble (go into red health), and you are responsible for the same for your Client Player.

Additionally, you can alchemize new moves by obtaining Grist! Normal type level up moves only require Build Grist, which you get 1 of for every Pokemon soloed. Each new move requires an amount of Build Grist equivalent to the level it is learned at. STAB Level up moves require the Build Grist in the same way, but also cost Shale Grist as well, which is obtained by soloing Trainers. The first level up STAB move you obtain requires 2 Shale Grist, the second requires 4, the third 6 and so on. Finally, TM moves and HM moves require Build Grist equal to their TM number, as well as one Marble Grist obtained by Soloing a Gym Leader's Pokemon. They also require Shale Grist equal to that you would need for your next level up STAB move.

Thankfully you turned out to be a combat class, so your role is rather simple; focus on taking down the Black Queen and King! These are Claire and Koga Respectively. You must also take down the Denizen of your planet, which is any other Gym Leader of your choice, but must be before the Black Queen is taken on.

Enjoy your trip through Pokemon Sburb!
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Old Feb 14th, 2012, 6:34:32 PM   #2713
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Seraphinu has requested that I give her a second Homestuck based mon since everyone else has failed so epicly in giving her a final one.

So my dear friend Alex, take a starter of your choice and name it Alex after yourself! Wait, what does this have to do with Homestuck you may ask? Well you see the premise here is that YOU, yes you, have been entered into POKE SBURB!!! Your fellow teammates are your fellow server members. You are the first to enter the game, and are the Client player of the second Pokemon you obtain. In turn, you are the Server player to the final Pokemon you catch and bring into the game, completing the loop. Your Server Pokemon is responsible for coming in and protecting you whenever you get in trouble (go into red health), and you are responsible for the same for your Client Player.

Additionally, you can alchemize new moves by obtaining Grist! Normal type level up moves only require Build Grist, which you get 1 of for every Pokemon soloed. Each new move requires an amount of Build Grist equivalent to the level it is learned at. STAB Level up moves require the Build Grist in the same way, but also cost Shale Grist as well, which is obtained by soloing Trainers. The first level up STAB move you obtain requires 2 Shale Grist, the second requires 4, the third 6 and so on. Finally, TM moves and HM moves require Build Grist equal to their TM number, as well as one Marble Grist obtained by Soloing a Gym Leader's Pokemon. They also require Shale Grist equal to that you would need for your next level up STAB move.

Thankfully you turned out to be a combat class, so your role is rather simple; focus on taking down the Black Queen and King! These are Claire and Koga Respectively. You must also take down the Denizen of your planet, which is any other Gym Leader of your choice, but must be before the Black Queen is taken on.

Enjoy your trip through Pokemon Sburb!
yaaaay, I have six Pokemon now :3 Thanks Jim, now I can get this party started.
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I decided to do a Very Hard Scramble on Pokemon Red. I asked for 12 Pokemon to decide on the top 6 for my team. This is the Final Team, If I didn't choose yours Pokemon, no hard feelings, It usually was solos, typings, or a strange restriction. They were all great Challanges!

The 6 Pokemon I chose:
Pokemon #1

Pokemon #2

Pokemon #3

Pokemon #4

Pokemon #5

Pokemon #6


Thanks for the Pokemon! Honorable Mentions go to the challanges I didn't accept, again no hard feelings, I just couldnt do them.

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lol good luck with Fang SS. You'll need it.

EDIT: Just reduce the number to one tenth of what it is, and (since I know you don't believe in real-life restrictions), make them all trainer owned, and then just make Fang hold a random useless item (and then roll a dice to see which move Fang uses) for 1 badge or the E4, and the moveslot loss(or something like that) restrcitions still apply. Is that okay?
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Announcing the fact that I am abandoning the SS scramble as now I have to solo a sea route with a level 4 chimchar... BTW Treadshot don't mind changing it, I've lost all morale.
So instead, I have decided to take a Platinum Scramble with the theme of famous/favorite book characters. Please no repeating types or (Nickname) the __ please. Finally, I will choose 6 on Thursday GMT -6 eight at night. Creativity is recommended. Everyone only gets 2 submissions though. And about the difficulty, please make it medium. No trading or hacking and NO VANGUARDS!

Edit Below: OH MY GOD ANOTHER CHIMCHAR. On a brighter note, you may choose starters, but remember that I only get one.
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GrassBlade, take a Chimchar and name him Rincewind, after Terry Pratchett's famously inept wizard. (Or Wizzard)

Rincewind is a complete coward, and flees at the first sign of danger.
Your Chimchar cannot directly attack if he is under half health, and must be either switched out or healed ASAP.

Rincewind can't even manage a simple Fireball unless his immediate surroundings are completely immersed in magic.
Your Chimchar cannot use Fire unless the move has full PP.

Finally, Rincewind is a reluctant hero.
Chimchar must solo Byron. He must be the only Pokemon in your party during this solo.

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Reserving for GrassBlade, a Shinx.

Since we're on the theme of wizards, name Shinx H.Potter (damn 10 character limit).

Since I really can't be stuffed reading through seven bricks...uh, I mean books, for this challenge, I'm just going to go off memory.

Firstly, evolve Shinx as soon as possible, just because Luxray is cool and the more black the better. If you find any glasses-related item (black glasses, choice specs, etc.) make Shinx wear (hold) it.

Secondly, Shinx is completely useless without a wand, and since broomsticks are in short supply, you'll have to rely on spells (non-contact, special moves) to deal damage. You'll have access to Tackle, though (or whatever move you Shinx starts with, something really basic so you don't have to grind with exp.share). You may not use spread moves, as frankly you're not skilled enough yet, so no Discharge.

To make your Shinx a better wizard, you have to prove its worth in contests. Your abilities as a wizard grow as you beat contests.

No contests = use only spells (outlined above), no spread moves, no access to magic potions (so no access to items full stop)

Beat the normal rank contest = you may now use spread moves, all other restrictions still apply.

Beat the super rank contest = access to magic potions, for boosting stats only (so X items and vitamins). Access to spread moves. Other restrictions still apply.

Beat hyper rank contest = access to all forms of magic potions. Access to spread moves.other restrictions still apply.

Beat master rank contest = a waste of time, don't bother. I suppose you can start using TMs on Shinx now, if you've gotten this far in contests.

Shinx must have Rivalry as an ability, because frankly he's not very intimidating. *Solo Cyrus at Spear Pillar. Solo an E4 member. Solo two gym leaders.*

As a last ditch effort, you do have the ability to access godhax. At any one point in the game, you may use godhax just by repeatedly thinking of whatever restriction you want to skip, and you'll skip it (think of how Harry got into Gryffindor....I'm not going to spell check that, too lazy, but all he did was just repeatedly think of it....such a lame way to advance a plot...). The only thing you can't skip is the "only use spells" restriction. Try not to skip hyper rank, because you'll still have to go through it in game to get to a Master rank contest anyways, genius. Recommended things to skip are in the asterisks, but you can only skip one.


Oh, and every time you attack with Shinx, shout out a word in english, with a few random suffixes and extra sounds tacked on the end, because that's what most spells called out in the books are anyways (expeliamus....obviously expel with a few more sounds tacked on). And try to do this in public, it's funnier that way.
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Old Feb 15th, 2012, 12:55:59 AM   #2719
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Reserving for timeeel39 and GrassBlade. Still on the subject of wizards, I'll give you one based on Pug from Magician.

Edit: Screw that, you have too many wizards. You can have Tomas instead.

GrassBlade, take Tomas the Gible. As a child, Tomas wanted to be a warrior. He would often have play fights with his friend Pug. Have Tomas learn and keep Take Down, and use only that move to solo 10 Psychics (the trainer class). However soon enough, Tomas was taken on a journey with Duke Borric to the East. On the way there, he got lost in some dwarven tunnels. Enter Mt. Coronet, and solo 20 pokemon there. Tomas may now evolve. In the tunnels, Tomas meets a dying dragon, who gives him a suit of golden armour, as well as a shield and a sword. Tomas then begins his slow transformation into a Valheru, a legendary warrior who commands dragons. He gains new powers, being much stronger and more powerful than before. Teach Tomas Hidden Power instead of Take Down, and keep it forever. However, Tomas has grown more savage because he is becoming a Valheru. So, Tomas is always under the effects of Taunt, and must OHKO every pokemon it battles- if it fails to OHKO any pokemon, then throw out items worth $5000 or more. However, eventually his personality evens out- when Tomas evolves into Garmchomp, the Taunt and OHKO restrictions are removed. Instead, he has grown much softer- Tomas may not OHKO any pokemon unless it has used a status move on it. If you fail this restriction, throw out items worth $10000 or more.

Sorry if this seems a bit strange, I'm not thinking perfectly straight right now...

As hard as I can make it eh? Well then, timeeel39, take Rebellious the Hitmonchan. THis Hitmonchan is so rebellious, because it is a fighting type but it loves to use Special moves! So, Rebellious may never use a physical move. It also loves taking risks- Rebellious must attempt to solo every Flying and Psychic type pokemon you battle, including all of Sabrina's gym. However, Rebellious beats himself up a bit if he doesn't do well- if Rebellious fails to solo any Flying or Psychic type, you must throw out items worth $10000 or more, each and every time. Have fun!!!

@below, great update! I have never played Colosseum in my life, but judging by your comments, it sounds fun! Ouch on the nasty restrictions though.
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Old Feb 15th, 2012, 1:25:32 AM   #2720
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Just posting to say that I've added Chapter 1 to my Colosseum just now. Things get a little... interesting shall we say, pretty much right off the bat.
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Old Feb 15th, 2012, 2:10:44 AM   #2721
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Damn, poor Jim, you had some rough luck(We were voicing on Skype while he was playing, I heard it all D=)

Hopefully things will get better from here though :3

I'm in the process of writing the prologue to my Crystal Scramble(doing some animations for it too). It should be really awesome once I'm done :3
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@Jimera0, great update to the first chapter, sorry about the battle. Also, since you decided to call Omega the Makuhita, Shenron, you can call it either. Its up to you.
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Sorry, Jimera0 about your luck.....

Please have better luck next time *crosses fingers*
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZ_f...=youtube_gdata
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Errr, Gamer, do status moves targeting itself count like Swords Dance or does it have to be Scary Face and co?
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