The Dark Horse Project (HUGE Update Post #121) - Page 4

YAYtears · Feb 14th, 2012, 12:27:13 AM

I did it! Lucked out a bunch of people right from 1300 rating up. Winning +18 through +20 battles made it much easier.

Pokemon Online Username:The Empoleon
Dark Horse Pokemon: Empoleon
Screenshot of Top 80 Ladder Ranking:

...

Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set:

Matthew (Empoleon) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 156 SDef / 96 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Toxic
- Scald
- Ice Beam

The set is a variant of the sub tentacruel sets and the subtran sets. It wasn't seeing much action until I faced stuff like latias or an occasional kingdra. Unoriginal people using stuff that was already tried.

The team. May post RMT later.

...

A log Its against another dark horse team lol
http://pokemon.aesoft.org/replay-A-T...ivate674277923

**Pocket** · Feb 14th, 2012, 2:42:05 AM

Good match - it's cool to see 2 awesome dark horse teams pitted against each other! Your Empoleon actually pulled its weight, which I'm surprised, and it complemented well with the sand. CB Stoutland was no slacker either - quite an under-appreciated mon.

Lady Alex · Feb 14th, 2012, 4:03:24 PM

Updated my original post with a RMT

SlimMan · Feb 15th, 2012, 1:05:08 AM

Imma join this now.

PO Username: Dornier Do
Hall of Fame Standing: ... I just noticed this project yesterday... so none
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Tangrowth/Archeops - but I have a question about this. As long as I pick one of them to never leave the team, as long as I keep one of them constant for the entire time, I am allowed to change the other, right? Cuz I haven't actually built a team yet.....
Curent LadderStanding: ... I just made the alt... 1000

Lady Alex · Feb 15th, 2012, 1:53:38 AM

Yes, I imagine you are allowed to drop one of them but not the other if you choose to do so without restarting. If you decided to swap one of them to sign up with another dark horse pokemon, you will have to restart though.

***Birkal**** · Feb 15th, 2012, 1:56:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat SlimMan

but I have a question about this. As long as I pick one of them to never leave the team, as long as I keep one of them constant for the entire time, I am allowed to change the other, right? Cuz I haven't actually built a team yet.....

You are allowed to drop one of them throughout the process, yes. You just must always have one Dark Horse Pokemon on your team from start to finish. I hope that clears things up!

Also, I am so sorry for giving this topic such neglect; this definitely won't happen again. Time to step up the responsibility to give you guys the project that you deserve. I'm glad to see so many entries into the Hall of Fame and new participants! I'll be working today and tomorrow to get everything up to date. Thank you so much for your patience. Keep on laddering!

Zoap · Feb 15th, 2012, 5:00:40 AM

Just posting an update on my Dark Horse Pokemons, here's the info again plus the updated Ladder Standing with a pic. Overall its going extremely well and I've saved all the logs.

Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Froslass, Abomasnow, Poliwrath, Jynx, Mamoswine.
Current Ladder Standing: 1116

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9...0darkhorse.jpg

Does anyone know how to post a small like thumbnail of the image without a huge old pic showing up?

Bruno Magno · Feb 15th, 2012, 7:52:05 AM

Changing Crobat to Shaymin

Quote:

Pokemon Online Username: Bruno Magno
Hall of Fame Standing: //
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Shaymin
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

The Truth · Feb 15th, 2012, 4:24:55 PM

Pokemon Online Username: Tears
Hall of Fame Standing: None
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: ...*sees tornadus below 5%*
Current Ladder Standing: somewhere around 1300

Pidge · Feb 15th, 2012, 5:22:19 PM

Pokemon Online Username: article
Hall of Fame Standing: none
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Hippowdon, Deoxys-D
Current Ladder Standing: 1032

Since someone already got HoF with Hippowdon this month, does only Deoxys-D count?

Zoap · Feb 17th, 2012, 3:44:47 AM

Dropping Poliwrath from my roster.

EDIT: Definitely happy with the replacement(who also is a Dark Horse but too late to add him). Made 1185 in a few games from being back down to 1080 or so.

EDIT 2: With updated form and photo of 1200

1000>1116>1204

Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Froslass, Abomasnow,Jynx, Mamoswine.
Current Ladder Standing: 1204

**Pocket** · Feb 17th, 2012, 3:55:03 AM

@ Pidge, if you are referring to YAYtears, then no, Hippowdon is still fair game, since he hasn't registered it.

Texas Cloverleaf · Feb 17th, 2012, 11:27:26 AM

Pokemon Online Username: Deepened Barrows
Hall of Fame Standing: none
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Sceptile
Current Ladder Standing: somewhere

Opening a second "account"

Pwnemon · Feb 17th, 2012, 3:04:55 PM

he's referring to Pearl.

also, @Truth, you have to start with a new alt.

Ripamon · Feb 17th, 2012, 3:22:26 PM

Pokemon Online Username - Soon to be created
Hall of Fame Standing- None
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Blastoise
Current Ladder Standing - 1402.( Will create a new alt at 1000)

Master of the Six Kings · Feb 17th, 2012, 9:02:21 PM

I got to 95th with Eelektross before hax capped my points. Taking a break at 1305, but i was so darn excited about making top 100 til i realized the new requirement ;(

Razza · Feb 18th, 2012, 3:36:16 PM

Name: Razza
Dark Horse Pokemon: Azelf, cloysters
Ladder ranking: 1361 rank 71, on alt "Razza 2.0"
Sets:

Azelf @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Flamethrower
- Explosion

Cloyster (M) @ White Herb
Trait: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Shell Smash
- Razor Shell

SlimMan · Feb 18th, 2012, 4:02:53 PM

aw shit
They deleted un-registered alts... which included mine. So I'm involuntarily starting over >_>. It sucks because I was at like 1300 too.... granted I had an exceptionally lucky streak, but hey, maybe I can replicate that. My team was functioning pretty well, so I'll probably still make it to 1350 assuming I don't go inactive again.

Master of the Six Kings · Feb 19th, 2012, 2:22:55 AM

The king of no weakness... the big bringer of THUNDER with an intense Flamethrower for those pesky industrial insectoids and the Hidden Power of ice ages unknown...Eelektross is my first entry into the Hall of Fame, coming in after a number of grueling attempts and heavy tilts, from 965 to 1352, i have a new love for the NU beast :D

Proof:

...

I will see how high i get but man am i happy. I'll register a new mon tomorrow and see if i ca get two in. I used Mamoswine (a freaking beast) but didnt register him. EDIT: Nope, right back down XD Im happy though, onto the questions

How did you choose your Dark Horse Pokemon for this project?
I wanted something from NU that wouldn't seem like an obvious choice. I liked Rotom-W's immunity to EQ and thought Eelektross would work rather similiarly. I tried a mix set at first, but Brick Break was really lacking, and i wanted more special power. So i made him a BoltTurn core with Scizor and made him Life Orb Special monster, running Thunder to OHKO Vaporeon and Tentecruel, much to my opponent's surprise. At 1300, i found i needed to keep him alive longer and stay in more, so i actually ran Magnet over LO to preseve exsisting OHKOs and keep him around.

How did you go about building a team for your Dark Horse Pokemon?
I tried a stallish team with him as a big wall breaker, but found hyper offensively i could bring him in easier off of OHKOs. I set him beside Scizor and a Scarfed Infernape with great results. I found i needed a backup Rain wrecker, as Ape helped me beat Sansdtorm teams (with CC, HP Ice wreckage), Hail teams and even Sun teams, so i ran Rotom-w for water resist, killer, and Trick specialist. I had a CS Cloyster originally, allowing me to wreck Dragonite, but my lead changed into Mamoswine making Ice an overly covered type. I was also having trouble hitting faster things on the special side and not always beign able to get off a hit. Focus Sash Alakazam rounded off the spot and proved his worth with Energy Ball and the standard Psy/Ghost/Fighting coverage.

Do you think it is more difficult or less difficult to ladder with a Dark Horse Pokemon? Why?
Absolutely. Tross played well on the team, but he wasnt the MVP. Some things in the 3% and above range arent such a challenge, but when you gow ith a true NU, you have a lot more on the line. Tross loved dealing with "bulky" water types, Ferro/Scizor/Forretress and x4 Ice weak Ground types but Leaf Storms and Outrages just did him in, and T-Tar walled him to death. I often felt like replacing him, but the long struggle just made his shinning moments that much better. I'd say its a challenge, but a good challenge.

(For Hall of Fame members only) How did you reach the Hall of Fame?
Tross, adn mamo for that matter, were great Pokes to have, and they held their weight. But it was no easy measure. I spent week one tweaking at around 1100-990 and i had one heck of a jounrey out of there. The first time out of 1100, i skyrocketed to 1290 only to fall back down to exactly 1100. This is where most of the team switches occured. After that, i managed to get up to 1300 and fo between 1348 (i was soooo close!) and 1280 on Hydro Pump/Focus Blast misses, insanely bad critical hits, bad status and both (Scald crits and burns Etross, Rotom and Kazam in one game). But after a a powergouse night of predictions (garnering one extremely upset ragequit), i managed to bearly break my cap at 1352 and end up in the Hall, falling right back down in a legitimate and thoughful game. BoltBeamThrower is one amazing combination, but every single member of my team pulled off games where they swept up to 4 Pokemon with no help. Hyper Offensive for the win!

ShakeItUp · Feb 19th, 2012, 2:35:50 PM

kk well
I'm bored and might as well do this :P

Pokemon Online Username: -SubZer0-
Hall of Fame Standing: None
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mightyena
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

guess ill try this time :P

Lady Alex · Feb 19th, 2012, 5:10:12 PM

I already made dark horse this month with dugtrio.

ssbbm · Feb 19th, 2012, 5:50:55 PM

mightyena seems pretty cool
but im pretty gay making alts cause i suck
Pokemon Online Username: WOLF COCK
Hall of Fame Standing: None
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mightyena
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

Zoap · Feb 20th, 2012, 2:07:48 AM

Updating my Dark Horse challenge, dropped Froslass for another pokemon(Dark Horse but I don't think it counts because I'm already started, kinda like my pokemon i switched in for Poliwrath) anywho so that leaves me with 3 Dark Horse left from the original team(5 still since the new people are below 5% but w/e):

1000>1116>1204>1308

To be honest I'm worried I'm going to tilt and its keeping me from wanting to play for extended periods. Anyway here's the updated form with a screen shot.

Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Abomasnow,Jynx, Mamoswine.
Current Ladder Standing: 1308

Lady Alex · Feb 20th, 2012, 3:49:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Zoap

To be honest I'm worried I'm going to tilt and its keeping me from wanting to play for extended periods.

You just have to grit your teeth and hope for the best xD. I just ended up doing it in one sitting this time to avoid that prolonged feeling of doubt lol. The last 3 or 4 matches are the worst because you know that if you lose you're going to be set waaay back.

Zoap · Feb 20th, 2012, 8:27:28 PM

This pretty much explains how I feel right now!

Lol that outta the way, I made 1364(Rank 63 on OU Ladder) which means Hall of Fame!

Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2
Dark Horse Pokemon: Abomasnow, Jynx, Mamoswine
Screenshot of Top 80 Ladder Ranking:

Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set:

Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Protect
- Leech Seed
- Seed Bomb
- Ice Shard

Jynx (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Lovely Kiss
- Psychic
- Blizzard
- Grass Knot

Mamoswine (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Snow Cloak
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Crash
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Hitmontop (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Rapid Spin
- Mach Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Close Combat

Magnezone @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Substitute

Yanmega (F) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Air Slash
- Bug Buzz
- Giga Drain
- Shadow Ball

I know I was only required to list my Dark Horse Pokemon but I figured I'd list the whole team. Hitmontop was my replacement for Poliwrath(he sits at 76 on OU Stats list or 1.5%) and I replaced Frolass with Yanmega(he sits at 118 at .575%), meaning that although I don't get credit for them, my team consisted of 5/6 Dark Horse Pokemon!

I'll continue laddering, but I feel I'll probably tilt now because I no longer really have anything at stake XD. I'll upload all of the battle logs I have in an edit to this post(there are a lot be warned!), as well as maybe a RMT if I feel like writing one up.

I'll also edit in those questions with my answers from the 3rd post.

Thanks Lady Alex, I took your advice and powered through(turns out I just needed to win 4 matches, but I did it 4 in a row!), without you I probably woulda just went like 1-2 matches a day lol.

Feb 14th, 2012, 12:27:13 AM	#76
YAYtears Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 323	I did it! Lucked out a bunch of people right from 1300 rating up. Winning +18 through +20 battles made it much easier. Pokemon Online Username:The Empoleon Dark Horse Pokemon: Empoleon Screenshot of Top 80 Ladder Ranking: ... Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set: Matthew (Empoleon) (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Torrent EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 156 SDef / 96 Spd Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Substitute - Toxic - Scald - Ice Beam The set is a variant of the sub tentacruel sets and the subtran sets. It wasn't seeing much action until I faced stuff like latias or an occasional kingdra. Unoriginal people using stuff that was already tried. The team. May post RMT later. ... Zapdos @ Leftovers Trait: Pressure EVs: 180 HP / 252 SAtk / 76 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power [Ice] - Heat Wave - Roost Breloom (F) @ Toxic Orb Trait: Poison Heal EVs: 236 HP / 212 SDef / 60 Spd Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Bulk Up - Drain Punch - Seed Bomb - Spore Matthew (Empoleon) (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Torrent EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 156 SDef / 96 Spd Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Substitute - Toxic - Scald - Ice Beam Jirachi @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 212 SDef / 44 Spd Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Fire Punch - Iron Head - Body Slam - Wish Hippowdon (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Sand Stream EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Ice Fang - Slack Off - Stealth Rock Latios (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Draco Meteor - Surf - Trick - Psyshock A log Its against another dark horse team lol http://pokemon.aesoft.org/replay-A-T...ivate674277923

Feb 14th, 2012, 2:42:05 AM	#77
Pocket Talonflame :D Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,294 Bergenfield	Good match - it's cool to see 2 awesome dark horse teams pitted against each other! Your Empoleon actually pulled its weight, which I'm surprised, and it complemented well with the sand. CB Stoutland was no slacker either - quite an under-appreciated mon. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Feb 15th, 2012, 1:05:08 AM	#79
SlimMan Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,475 Caroline du Nord	Imma join this now. PO Username: Dornier Do Hall of Fame Standing: ... I just noticed this project yesterday... so none Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Tangrowth/Archeops - but I have a question about this. As long as I pick one of them to never leave the team, as long as I keep one of them constant for the entire time, I am allowed to change the other, right? Cuz I haven't actually built a team yet..... Curent LadderStanding: ... I just made the alt... 1000 __________________ Messidor

Feb 15th, 2012, 4:24:55 PM	#84
The Truth Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 113 Stranger than Fiction	Pokemon Online Username: Tears Hall of Fame Standing: None Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: ...sees tornadus below 5% Current Ladder Standing: somewhere around 1300 __________________ lol signatures

Feb 15th, 2012, 5:22:19 PM	#85
Pidge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,087	Pokemon Online Username: article Hall of Fame Standing: none Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Hippowdon, Deoxys-D Current Ladder Standing: 1032 Since someone already got HoF with Hippowdon this month, does only Deoxys-D count? Last edited by Pidge; Feb 15th, 2012 at 10:52:17 PM.

Feb 14th, 2012, 4:03:24 PM	#78
Lady Alex Because I'm Yuno. fucking. Gasai. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 444	Updated my original post with a RMT

Feb 15th, 2012, 1:53:38 AM	#80
Lady Alex Because I'm Yuno. fucking. Gasai. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 444	Yes, I imagine you are allowed to drop one of them but not the other if you choose to do so without restarting. If you decided to swap one of them to sign up with another dark horse pokemon, you will have to restart though.

Feb 15th, 2012, 5:00:40 AM	#82
Zoap Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 495 Antioch	Just posting an update on my Dark Horse Pokemons, here's the info again plus the updated Ladder Standing with a pic. Overall its going extremely well and I've saved all the logs. Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2 Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Froslass, Abomasnow, Poliwrath, Jynx, Mamoswine. Current Ladder Standing: 1116 http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9...0darkhorse.jpg Does anyone know how to post a small like thumbnail of the image without a huge old pic showing up?

Feb 17th, 2012, 3:44:47 AM	#86
Zoap Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 495 Antioch	Dropping Poliwrath from my roster. EDIT: Definitely happy with the replacement(who also is a Dark Horse but too late to add him). Made 1185 in a few games from being back down to 1080 or so. EDIT 2: With updated form and photo of 1200 1000>1116>1204 Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2 Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Froslass, Abomasnow,Jynx, Mamoswine. Current Ladder Standing: 1204 Last edited by Zoap; Feb 17th, 2012 at 4:11:39 AM.

Feb 17th, 2012, 3:55:03 AM	#87
Pocket Talonflame :D Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,294 Bergenfield	@ Pidge, if you are referring to YAYtears, then no, Hippowdon is still fair game, since he hasn't registered it. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Feb 17th, 2012, 11:27:26 AM	#88
Texas Cloverleaf meh Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,407 Ottawa	Pokemon Online Username: Deepened Barrows Hall of Fame Standing: none Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Sceptile Current Ladder Standing: somewhere Opening a second "account" __________________ C&C/Smog work Last edited by Texas Cloverleaf; Feb 17th, 2012 at 12:25:53 PM.

Feb 17th, 2012, 3:04:55 PM	#89
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,163 Maryland	he's referring to Pearl. also, @Truth, you have to start with a new alt. __________________ [11:56pm] Pwnemon: statutory rape and all [11:56pm] bmelts: i have such a huge boner right now [9:28pm] Kadew: pwnemon that signature is like an x marking the spot of treasure, except instead of treasure its a pile of humorous garbage that turtles crapped out

Feb 17th, 2012, 3:22:26 PM	#90
Ripamon Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 42 Normal, Illinois	Pokemon Online Username - Soon to be created Hall of Fame Standing- None Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Blastoise Current Ladder Standing - 1402.( Will create a new alt at 1000) __________________ (16:03:26) *** Your rank in Standard OU is 2/56511 [1701 points / 84 battles]! OH YES.

Feb 17th, 2012, 9:02:21 PM	#91
Master of the Six Kings Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 791 Where soccer is the correct terminology and bacon isn't dishonest	I got to 95th with Eelektross before hax capped my points. Taking a break at 1305, but i was so darn excited about making top 100 til i realized the new requirement ;(

Feb 18th, 2012, 3:36:16 PM	#92
Razza Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 455	Name: Razza Dark Horse Pokemon: Azelf, cloysters Ladder ranking: 1361 rank 71, on alt "Razza 2.0" Sets: Azelf @ Life Orb Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef) - Taunt - Stealth Rock - Flamethrower - Explosion Cloyster (M) @ White Herb Trait: Skill Link EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Icicle Spear - Rock Blast - Shell Smash - Razor Shell

Feb 18th, 2012, 4:02:53 PM	#93
SlimMan Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,475 Caroline du Nord	aw shit They deleted un-registered alts... which included mine. So I'm involuntarily starting over >_>. It sucks because I was at like 1300 too.... granted I had an exceptionally lucky streak, but hey, maybe I can replicate that. My team was functioning pretty well, so I'll probably still make it to 1350 assuming I don't go inactive again. __________________ Messidor

Feb 19th, 2012, 2:22:55 AM	#94
Master of the Six Kings Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 791 Where soccer is the correct terminology and bacon isn't dishonest	The king of no weakness... the big bringer of THUNDER with an intense Flamethrower for those pesky industrial insectoids and the Hidden Power of ice ages unknown...Eelektross is my first entry into the Hall of Fame, coming in after a number of grueling attempts and heavy tilts, from 965 to 1352, i have a new love for the NU beast :D Proof: ... I will see how high i get but man am i happy. I'll register a new mon tomorrow and see if i ca get two in. I used Mamoswine (a freaking beast) but didnt register him. EDIT: Nope, right back down XD Im happy though, onto the questions How did you choose your Dark Horse Pokemon for this project? I wanted something from NU that wouldn't seem like an obvious choice. I liked Rotom-W's immunity to EQ and thought Eelektross would work rather similiarly. I tried a mix set at first, but Brick Break was really lacking, and i wanted more special power. So i made him a BoltTurn core with Scizor and made him Life Orb Special monster, running Thunder to OHKO Vaporeon and Tentecruel, much to my opponent's surprise. At 1300, i found i needed to keep him alive longer and stay in more, so i actually ran Magnet over LO to preseve exsisting OHKOs and keep him around. How did you go about building a team for your Dark Horse Pokemon? I tried a stallish team with him as a big wall breaker, but found hyper offensively i could bring him in easier off of OHKOs. I set him beside Scizor and a Scarfed Infernape with great results. I found i needed a backup Rain wrecker, as Ape helped me beat Sansdtorm teams (with CC, HP Ice wreckage), Hail teams and even Sun teams, so i ran Rotom-w for water resist, killer, and Trick specialist. I had a CS Cloyster originally, allowing me to wreck Dragonite, but my lead changed into Mamoswine making Ice an overly covered type. I was also having trouble hitting faster things on the special side and not always beign able to get off a hit. Focus Sash Alakazam rounded off the spot and proved his worth with Energy Ball and the standard Psy/Ghost/Fighting coverage. Do you think it is more difficult or less difficult to ladder with a Dark Horse Pokemon? Why? Absolutely. Tross played well on the team, but he wasnt the MVP. Some things in the 3% and above range arent such a challenge, but when you gow ith a true NU, you have a lot more on the line. Tross loved dealing with "bulky" water types, Ferro/Scizor/Forretress and x4 Ice weak Ground types but Leaf Storms and Outrages just did him in, and T-Tar walled him to death. I often felt like replacing him, but the long struggle just made his shinning moments that much better. I'd say its a challenge, but a good challenge. (For Hall of Fame members only) How did you reach the Hall of Fame? Tross, adn mamo for that matter, were great Pokes to have, and they held their weight. But it was no easy measure. I spent week one tweaking at around 1100-990 and i had one heck of a jounrey out of there. The first time out of 1100, i skyrocketed to 1290 only to fall back down to exactly 1100. This is where most of the team switches occured. After that, i managed to get up to 1300 and fo between 1348 (i was soooo close!) and 1280 on Hydro Pump/Focus Blast misses, insanely bad critical hits, bad status and both (Scald crits and burns Etross, Rotom and Kazam in one game). But after a a powergouse night of predictions (garnering one extremely upset ragequit), i managed to bearly break my cap at 1352 and end up in the Hall, falling right back down in a legitimate and thoughful game. BoltBeamThrower is one amazing combination, but every single member of my team pulled off games where they swept up to 4 Pokemon with no help. Hyper Offensive for the win! Last edited by Master of the Six Kings; Feb 19th, 2012 at 3:13:51 AM.

Feb 19th, 2012, 2:35:50 PM	#95
ShakeItUp Darkravenn12: Always and Forever Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,140 Mentor	kk well I'm bored and might as well do this :P Pokemon Online Username: -SubZer0- Hall of Fame Standing: None Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mightyena Current Ladder Standing: 1000 guess ill try this time :P Last edited by ShakeItUp; Feb 19th, 2012 at 5:12:37 PM.

Feb 19th, 2012, 5:10:12 PM	#96
Lady Alex Because I'm Yuno. fucking. Gasai. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 444	I already made dark horse this month with dugtrio.

Feb 19th, 2012, 5:50:55 PM	#97
ssbbm Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,001 Where you can play Pokemon with Singing Narwhals and Dancing Clouds	mightyena seems pretty cool but im pretty gay making alts cause i suck Pokemon Online Username: WOLF COCK Hall of Fame Standing: None Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mightyena Current Ladder Standing: 1000 Last edited by ssbbm; Feb 22nd, 2012 at 11:14:55 PM.

Feb 20th, 2012, 2:07:48 AM	#98
Zoap Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 495 Antioch	Updating my Dark Horse challenge, dropped Froslass for another pokemon(Dark Horse but I don't think it counts because I'm already started, kinda like my pokemon i switched in for Poliwrath) anywho so that leaves me with 3 Dark Horse left from the original team(5 still since the new people are below 5% but w/e): 1000>1116>1204>1308 To be honest I'm worried I'm going to tilt and its keeping me from wanting to play for extended periods. Anyway here's the updated form with a screen shot. Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2 Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Abomasnow,Jynx, Mamoswine. Current Ladder Standing: 1308

Feb 20th, 2012, 8:27:28 PM	#100
Zoap Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 495 Antioch	This pretty much explains how I feel right now! Lol that outta the way, I made 1364(Rank 63 on OU Ladder) which means Hall of Fame! Pokemon Online Username: All Hail Da King2 Dark Horse Pokemon: Abomasnow, Jynx, Mamoswine Screenshot of Top 80 Ladder Ranking: Dark Horse Pokemon Complete Set: Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Snow Warning EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Protect - Leech Seed - Seed Bomb - Ice Shard Jynx (F) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Dry Skin EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Lovely Kiss - Psychic - Blizzard - Grass Knot Mamoswine (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Snow Cloak EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Ice Shard - Icicle Crash - Earthquake - Stealth Rock Hitmontop (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Technician EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Rapid Spin - Mach Punch - Sucker Punch - Close Combat Magnezone @ Leftovers Trait: Magnet Pull EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Thunderbolt - Flash Cannon - Hidden Power [Fire] - Substitute Yanmega (F) @ Choice Specs Trait: Speed Boost EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Air Slash - Bug Buzz - Giga Drain - Shadow Ball I know I was only required to list my Dark Horse Pokemon but I figured I'd list the whole team. Hitmontop was my replacement for Poliwrath(he sits at 76 on OU Stats list or 1.5%) and I replaced Frolass with Yanmega(he sits at 118 at .575%), meaning that although I don't get credit for them, my team consisted of 5/6 Dark Horse Pokemon! I'll continue laddering, but I feel I'll probably tilt now because I no longer really have anything at stake XD. I'll upload all of the battle logs I have in an edit to this post(there are a lot be warned!), as well as maybe a RMT if I feel like writing one up. I'll also edit in those questions with my answers from the 3rd post. Thanks Lady Alex, I took your advice and powered through(turns out I just needed to win 4 matches, but I did it 4 in a row!), without you I probably woulda just went like 1-2 matches a day lol.