Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th

Firestorm · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:46:08 PM

So far they've announced there will be two new forms of Kyurem. They've also confirmed a new game will be announced.

Update:
Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 have been announced and are due for June in Japan. I am not sure on platform. Doesn't make much sense to be DS again to be honest. Kyurem has the following two forms. As you can tell, they seem to be a fusion of Kyurem with Reshiram and Zekrom.

Update 2: Nintendo DS, not 3DS, according to Masuda's Twitter.

Update 3: Better Image:

Update 4
Archaic on Bulbagarden just posted translations of Masuda's tweets throughout the day:

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Translations of all Masuda's tweets on the subject this morning. Nothing new here, so we're not adding to the Bulbanews article.

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173534777398411264
Everyone, Pokémorning!!!! It's just about time for Pokémon Smash! To Start! Those of you who can't watch, keep an eye on these tweets!!! There will be an important announcement!!! (^^)/~~~

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173536168112168960
A universe first game announcement will be made!! Byt first, Pokémon Anime! Pokémon Library!! (girlish giggle)!

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173543044753272833
A universe first exhibition!!! Very soon, Game Freak's Masuda and a new Pokémon game announcement!!!

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173544047951093760
Hello!!!!! I will tweet!!

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173548862294859776
The time has come for the announcement!!! (^^)/~~~

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173550148381716480
Pokémon Smash! After the announcement, important news will be posted on Twitter!!!

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173550186658926592
This June, the latest Pocket Monster work will make its apperance!!!! The title is "Pocket Monster Black 2 - White 2" for the Nintendo DS!

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173552394662195200
Everyone, please welcome "Pocket Monster Black 2 - White 2"!!! It looks like the official Pokémon website has just been updated. Legendary Pokémon are making their apperance. Please check it out!!!! pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/

https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173555282985758720
From the official account! RT @pok émon_cojp [Game]"Pocket Monster Black 2 - White 2" will be released simultaneously in June 2012. pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/ #pokemonB2W2 #pokemon

Update 5: Nintendo UK Twitter account says Europe is getting the games this autumn!
https://twitter.com/#!/NintendoUK/status/174072111235739648

Update 6: Nintendo of America has put out a press release announcing the release of the games in North America this fall as well.
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/det...C0MpsMqyMVKMnu

Update 7: Australia and New Zealand will be getting the game in the fall as well (sometime between September and November inclusive).
http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/...ia-this-spring

Box Art:

Update 8: Looks like the Global Battle Union is going to be overhauled:

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※The Pokémon Global Link will undergo a redesign to correspond with the Japanese release of Pokémon Black Version 2 and Pokémon White Version 2 in June of 2012. Due to the work involved in the renewal, the site will go offline temporarily. Season 5 will continue up until the site is brought offline. Further details about the schedule of the redesign will be announced on the Pokémon Global Link, as well as on the official Pokémon website.

Update 9: Kyruem's Formes retain Dragon/Ice typing

Sale listing on Amazon.co.jp reveals Typing/Height/Weight.

Black Kyurem Cover

Update 10:
Bulbanews has translated the information from the new Coro Coro issue. New storyline taking place 2 years after Black/White with new gym leaders. Most relevant to competitive players is this tidbit:

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The man in the lab coat is Akuroma. He is researching Pokémon strength. A cut-off portion of the photo mentions he is doing something regarding the latent abilities of Pokémon.

Check the link for the full run-down!

Update 11: Coro Coro May 2012

(copied from serebii)
First, it confirms Alder will appear early on within the game and asks the player to follow him
Cheren is a Normal-type Gym Leader while Bianca gives you your starter Pokémon as a favour for Juniper
Nobody seems to know where N has gone
New Professor is Professor Burnett who is in AR Searcher
Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus original forms are Incarnation Forme. Their new forms are Sacred Beast Forme. They are 198, 199 and 200 in the Unova Dex and have no type changes
Tornadus' Sacred Beast Forme focuses on Defense, Speed & Special Defense. It is 1.4m and weighs 63.0kg
Thundurus' Sacred Beast Forme has increased Special Attack. It is 3.0m and weighs 61.0kg
Landorus' Sacred Beast Forme has increased Attack. It is 1.3m and weighs 68.0kg
Mecha Tyranitar is part of PokéWood. Icirrus City Gym Leader Brycen appears, has a confrontation with Homika's father who wants to be a movie star, and is part of PokéWood. PokéWood allows you to select a scenario and then make the movie. Various battles appear
Pokémon World Tournament allows you to battle many of the old Gym Leaders and Champions including those listed yesterday and Janine & Blaine. We're still in the process of translating so keep checking back

Scarfwynaut · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:50:17 PM

I hate to be that guy but...

Pokemon smash? Is that the name of the new game? No grey?

breh · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:52:55 PM

Pokemon Smash is iirc the name of the program that announces Pokemon related news.

Also if they are fire/ice and electric/ice I will kill somebody.

atsync · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:53:05 PM

pokemon smash is the name of the show making the announcement

EDIT: beaten

Cobraroll · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:53:35 PM

If they go for the name "Grey", I'll be annoyed. Could they somehow be any more predictable? And what about all the people spelling it "Gray"? My bet's on a third game in the B/W series, but it won't be called Grey/Gray.

OVERGRO · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:53:40 PM

Freakin' awesome.

shnen · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:54:29 PM

here is what we are thinking they will look like!

...

Poster for the film
MASSIVE PICTURE!!
LIVESTREAM HERE

OVERGRO · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:54:36 PM

You want to see this image of Kyurem's new formes

EDIT: Ninja'd by 5 seconds!!!! :O

SgtWoodsy · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:55:54 PM

Holy shit Kyushiram's head is funny.

New typings are Ice/Fire and Ice/Electric.

Firestorm · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:56:34 PM

Pokemon Smash is the name of the show. It used to be Pokemon Sunday. We haven't got the game announcement yet. That will happen after the episode of the anime they're showing now (Seems to be from Hoenn)

Here's a poster of the movie with Kyurem in it.

atsync · Feb 25th, 2012, 5:56:53 PM

So those are real? They look so ugly, though the original form of Kyurem was ugly too.

Curious to find out more about their stats, type, etc.

The Reptile · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:01:09 PM

I really hope they don't give the left-form Ice / Fire typing. That would probably be the worst defensive typing ever.

OVERGRO · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:02:38 PM

Yeah I'm hoping for same typings as Reshiram and Zekrom... that way there's no Ice typing to deal with defensively. Wait... is Ice/Electric bad?

NatGeo · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:02:48 PM

I actually like them tbh! Anything for Pokemon Grey anyways....

I wonder how these will change forms anyways? Will it be with an item or a person or what? I can also see it changing if you got your kyurem from White or Black depending on the form, lol

King Serperior · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:03:24 PM

Zekkryuem is AWESOME!!

Reshikyruem is.....eh....

Let's go!!

Disposable Puppets · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:04:38 PM

If there's two forms, I wonder which one they'll use for the cover of Gray

The Reptile · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat OVERGRO

Yeah I'm hoping for same typings as Reshiram and Zekrom... that way there's no Ice typing to deal with defensively. Wait... is Ice/Electric bad?

Defensively, it's probably as bad as Ice-typing. A lot better than Fire / Ice.

Offensively, STAB BoltBeam is pretty cool.

Wichu · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:07:11 PM

Pokémon DarkGrey/LightGrey (alternatively Black/White Plus). Aww yeah.

Cobraroll · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Disposable Puppets

If there's two forms, I wonder which one they'll use for the cover of Gray

Probably the original.

atsync · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:14:07 PM

Hmmm just saw that Meloetta is on the poster too. How the hell did I miss that? I never thought that she'd be revealed too. Fine by me!

Actually I think I read on serebii that someone proposed that Kyurem could change form depending on whether it is fighting Reshiram or Zekrom. Obviously that's speculation, and though it is a cool idea, from a competitive point of view it is a terrible idea.

Firestorm · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:14:57 PM

There's about 15 minutes left in the show. Masuda did confirm we'd be getting an announcement though so just a matter of time. There'll likely be few details.

The fact that Hoenn music and an episode played makes me think we'll be seeing remakes but it could be just a coincidence...

EBeast · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:15:17 PM

I'm theorymoning the hell out of this before someone else does.
Kyurem-Zekrom Forme
Ice / Electric
Ability: Hopefully not Pressure, but I have a feeling of(more of want) an ability that gives him STAB on Dragon-type moves. This way it would get Dragon / Ice / Electric(or Fire) STABS.

Kyurem-Zekrom Forme seems to me like the superior forme of the two since you're not X4 weak to Rock and Stealth Rock and BoltBeam STABS are great. Both Formes are now not weak to Bullet Punch :D
Assuming stats stay the same(most likely not, but hopefully Zekrom forme doesn't make Kyurem a physical attacker)
@Scarf/Specs
Draco Meteor
Blizzard / Ice Beam (Hail teams ftw)
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power [Fire]

If Physical then lets hope that it gets Bolt Strike/Wild Charge and Icicle Crash
Outrage
Bolt Strike
Icicle Crash
Dual Chop / Earthquake

**TheMantyke** · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:18:39 PM

Waiting for reveals are always fun with others so hop onto #pokemon, #smogon, #smogonwifi, or any of the other smogon IRC channels to jump in on the excitement!

atsync · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:21:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Firestorm

There's about 15 minutes left in the show. Masuda did confirm we'd be getting an announcement though so just a matter of time. There'll likely be few details.

The fact that Hoenn music and an episode played makes me think we'll be seeing remakes but it could be just a coincidence...

I think announcements are made at the end of the episode usually anyway.

tjtoot · Feb 25th, 2012, 6:24:50 PM

Meloetta's Sparkling Recital=the mini movie, so keldeo, the 2 forms, and meloetta will all be in the next movie

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Feb 25th, 2012, 5:56:34 PM	#10
Firestorm I did my best, I have no regrets! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,261 Vancouver, BC	Pokemon Smash is the name of the show. It used to be Pokemon Sunday. We haven't got the game announcement yet. That will happen after the episode of the anime they're showing now (Seems to be from Hoenn) Here's a poster of the movie with Kyurem in it. __________________

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atsync Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 795 Australia	Hmmm just saw that Meloetta is on the poster too. How the hell did I miss that? I never thought that she'd be revealed too. Fine by me! Actually I think I read on serebii that someone proposed that Kyurem could change form depending on whether it is fighting Reshiram or Zekrom. Obviously that's speculation, and though it is a cool idea, from a competitive point of view it is a terrible idea. __________________ Pokemon Dream World Guide RBY In-Game Tiers + Article Hidden Items in RBY

Feb 25th, 2012, 6:14:57 PM	#21
Firestorm I did my best, I have no regrets! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,261 Vancouver, BC	There's about 15 minutes left in the show. Masuda did confirm we'd be getting an announcement though so just a matter of time. There'll likely be few details. The fact that Hoenn music and an episode played makes me think we'll be seeing remakes but it could be just a coincidence... __________________

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EBeast she's probably sexting nprtprt Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 650	I'm theorymoning the hell out of this before someone else does. Kyurem-Zekrom Forme Ice / Electric Ability: Hopefully not Pressure, but I have a feeling of(more of want) an ability that gives him STAB on Dragon-type moves. This way it would get Dragon / Ice / Electric(or Fire) STABS. Kyurem-Zekrom Forme seems to me like the superior forme of the two since you're not X4 weak to Rock and Stealth Rock and BoltBeam STABS are great. Both Formes are now not weak to Bullet Punch :D Assuming stats stay the same(most likely not, but hopefully Zekrom forme doesn't make Kyurem a physical attacker) @Scarf/Specs Draco Meteor Blizzard / Ice Beam (Hail teams ftw) Thunderbolt Hidden Power [Fire] If Physical then lets hope that it gets Bolt Strike/Wild Charge and Icicle Crash Outrage Bolt Strike Icicle Crash Dual Chop / Earthquake __________________

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