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Old May 17th, 2010, 7:43:40 PM   #1
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Default Little Cup OU list

Current one generated from jan/march/feb stats, will be updated whenever new stats come out since we don't have to worry about destabilising LC UU.

Anorith, Cyndaquil, Eevee, Horsea, Magby, Magnemite, Onix, Slowpoke, Squirtle, Wailmer, and Wooper are no longer OU.

Abra, Aipom, Bagon, Chimchar, Koffing, Omanyte, and Totodile are now in OU.

There are now 39 Pokemon in Little Cup-OU.

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 Abra       
 Aipom      
 Aron     
 Bagon       
 Bronzor    
 Buizel     
 Carvanha   
 Chimchar   
 Chinchou   
 Croagunk   
 Diglett    
 Dratini    
 Drifloon   
 Duskull    
 Elekid     
 Gastly     
 Gible      
 Gligar     
 Hippopotas 
 Houndour   
 Kabuto     
 Koffing    
 Machop     
 Mankey     
 Mantyke    
 Meowth     
 Munchlax   
 Omanyte    
 Paras      
 Phanpy     
 Porygon    
 Snover     
 Staryu     
 Stunky     
 Taillow    
 Totodile   
 Voltorb    
 Wynaut
Interestingly, despite the huge weighting towards the most recent stats (20:3:1) Missy would still have made the OU list despite not being legal in the most recent batch of stats.

Edit: Have some numbers:

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Old May 18th, 2010, 6:20:08 PM   #2
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I hope people aren't afraid to post here :(

My predictions
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The only "locks" to stay in the top 5 will be Gligar (thanks to phenomenal stats, typing, and moves) and Gastly (best choice scarfer, has 3 immunities and hits everything hard enough to 2hko (except lileep in sand, some bronzor, and munchlax). As far as croagunk, hounour, and munchlax go, they are definitely not guaranteed to retain their top 5 status. Machop is now becoming popular as far as fighting-types go thanks to DynamicPunch and having merit as a lead. With Snover's fairly high usage, is a water absorber / RD counter so important? Houndour is not digging the high usage of Carvahna, who can kill Houndour as well. Vahna makes a much better sweeper, although Houndour does have him beat as far as mixed sets go. Munchlax is the best special wall in LC but the game is shifting to physical attackers in my eyes, or even more stallish play. Munchlax is still very good but it is already teetering at that 5th slot, don't be surprised to see Chinchou or Bronzor jump him.

Krabby and Lileep will jump to OU I think, its rapid popularity thanks to Eo is catching on. Krabby is a great Agility sweeper and only 2 slots down from the cutoff.

As far as the metagame goes: More physical attackers with a special sweeping cleaner, such as Mantyke.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 8:14:59 PM   #3
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Er, I wasn't sure if we were supposed to post here. o___o

Yeah, I'm definitely expecting Lileep to jump up there, it's incredibly hard to kill in Sandstorm and stuff. I'm kind of surprised to see Anorith drop, though... his speed and Attack are great, it's too bad he's not seeing more usage.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 8:42:20 PM   #4
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I think the #littlecup cups would actually give a more accurate reading of what's being used. Anyway, no surprises here.
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I'm not sure how great stats from the #littlecup cups would be because, for example people like Eo use the same team every time, which would end up weighting the stats.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 2:41:56 PM   #6
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When the next set of stats comes out, I'm going to try and extract LC stats from the unrated CaP battles. There will be a fair amount of pollution from unrated NU/other NFEs, but it should be possible to filter out a majority of the noise. Not sure if we should base the OU list off that, but it's always nice to have more stats.
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I'm not sure how great stats from the #littlecup cups would be because, for example people like Eo use the same team every time, which would end up weighting the stats.
Since when is indirectly weighting the stats a bad thing? Isn't that a good thing? In fact that's probably the best thing about them; it indirectly weighs the stats to see what the winners are using because they get to play more matches.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 4:30:29 PM   #8
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Incidentally, I know the lists are based primarily off of usage, but usage depends on which Pokemon are effective and whatnot. For the most part, I think we have a fairly accurate reading of that...
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Now that we have May stats is this getting updated?
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Old Dec 25th, 2010, 12:35:37 PM   #10
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I doubt Croagunk will ever loose the top 5 status as he is one of little cups best revenge killers.
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Old Dec 25th, 2010, 1:13:38 PM   #11
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Gen V is here. This thread is irrelevant. Don't necro this.
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are snover and hippopotas still legal in LC?

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Does it have an evolution?

Why yes, it does

Is it on the Uber list?

Why no, it isn't

Is it banned?

Nah.
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Old Jan 10th, 2011, 3:44:43 AM   #14
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really nice post…Thanks for share…
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Arbok is not in little cup i think it is.......
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