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Pwnemon · Apr 1st, 2012, 7:05:15 PM

Q: how many hours did it take you to find someone who would actually lose to that team? i assume antar's had you on the job for multiple days now?

**jas61292** · Apr 1st, 2012, 7:10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Pwnemon

Q: how many hours did it take you to find someone who would actually lose to that team? i assume antar's had you on the job for multiple days now?

Hey, I resent that. If you look at the log you will clearly see it is a rated ladder battle. I didn't have to go looking for someone, they all just came to me. Besides, its not like it was that hard to beat someone. Those guys are the top 6 for a reason.

shnen · Apr 1st, 2012, 7:10:48 PM

Haha brilliant, dat restalk Squirtle
in all seriousness though, can we please get the real stats? I was looking forward to the tier shifts x_x

DDRMaster · Apr 1st, 2012, 7:21:32 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if that was jas's first ladder battle with that team. I've utterly destroyed Ubers teams with just Ferroseed and Kabutops.

TropiOUs · Apr 1st, 2012, 7:21:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat jas61292

This is for all you people complaining about the stats:

http://pastebin.com/BARF6i1w

If this doesn't prove to you that those guys deserve the top spots in OU, I don't know what will.

Especially that Squirtle. What a wall.

Any chance of a replay of such a glorious battle?.

PsYch071c · Apr 1st, 2012, 7:44:49 PM

I'm glad they decided to retest sun in UU. Vulpix was banned primarily due to its mind-boggling bulk when holding an Eviolite, and it would wall entire teams unless they carried one of its very limited counters. With Ninetails, that will not be a problem, and Sun will be a cakewalk to beat without it's premier wall.

Malkyrian · Apr 1st, 2012, 7:56:36 PM

I'm frankly amazed that Squirtle is near the bottom in LC. I don't get how such a top-tier OU mon could be considered bottom-tier by LC players.

I mean, seriously, three uses? Am I missing something here? Could someone explain to me just why LC Squirtle is so underused?

EDIT: in case it wasn't obvious, I don't play LC and am just asking out of curiousity

SlimMan · Apr 1st, 2012, 8:12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Pwnemon

Speaking of Squirtle and Rapid Spin, I'm surprised Starmie managed to stay OU, what with its sole niche being swept out from underneath. It has great coverage and is decent in rain, but really, there are better options for special Rain sweepers (i'm looking at you, Phione)

I agree with this, but I think that it was sort of grandfathered into OU through its insane usage before the recent metagame shifts. Before people discovered Electivire's power, Starmie was probably used enough to guarantee it a spot in OU anyway.

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Originally Posted by Fat Triangles

Actually, Pachirisu shares the same base speed with Evire. Theyre both base 95s.

But Pachirisu doesn't have Motor Drive. Besides, Pachirisu is not as good of a sweeper. Go to serebii, or even their pages on Smogon. You'll see that Electivire simply has better attacking stats. But Pachirisu is almost physically invincible after using Growl, and so that's what it should stick to.

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Originally Posted by Fat PsYch071c

I'm glad they decided to retest sun in UU. Vulpix was banned primarily due to its mind-boggling bulk when holding an Eviolite, and it would wall entire teams unless they carried one of its very limited counters. With Ninetails, that will not be a problem, and Sun will be a cakewalk to beat without it's premier wall.

This so much.

Espio · Apr 1st, 2012, 8:43:10 PM

Squirtle and Electivre 'nuff said

DetroitLolcat · Apr 1st, 2012, 8:52:40 PM

Okay, I think this is pretty obvious but why hasn't Grumpig gotten a Suspect Test yet? I mean, the only reason Dusknoir is even OU right now is to counter the Pig, and Grumpig can still outspeed and 2KO with Shadow Ball (after a CM)! You might think Vespiquen can counter it but what's it going to do when Piggy has enough Calm Minds? Nothing.

And then you switch in your Dusknoir and get wrecked by Support Grumpig. I know it doesn't have the attacking power of the CM set, but who cares when you wall the entire freaking metagame! Toxic Spikes get you down? Heal Bell. Shelgon about to sweep? Thunder Wave. Don't even mention how it walls Quilava, the best revenge killer in the game. I don't even understand why someone would use Quilava when it's a liability against Grumpig. It also gets that sweet speed tie with Phione so it can stop it from sweeping.

Also I thought SUnkern was useless in this meta but then I saw what the Physically Defensive set does. Not 2KO'd by CHOICE BAND Magikarp's Bounce, walls Feebas, and lols at Remoraid. Good shit.

AnEntAmongMen · Apr 1st, 2012, 9:16:10 PM

I don't get it what's so revolutionary about these stats that started all this discussion guys if you have a pokemon to discuss make a thrad in dspiral god.

~GreenCore · Apr 1st, 2012, 9:44:16 PM

looooooooooool caterpie OU

**Arcticblast** · Apr 1st, 2012, 9:51:56 PM

I came into this thread expecting to see the usual Scizor at #1 for the sake of avoiding my homework. But now I have one thing to say to Antar.

I love you.

XcRunner · Apr 1st, 2012, 9:52:06 PM

It's good to see that Ledyba is getting some serious usage now. With an eviolite, it seems to be the best Sunkern counter in the game right now. Once he's is gone, Electivire and Squirtle don't have to worry about a grass type resisting their extremely powerful attacks and then are able to sweep.
I must say that I'm a little surprised that it's evolution Ledian has not gotten more usage with its amazing new iron fist ability, making it's Focus Punch only a 9hko on Deoxys-D when used with an adamant nature and a choice band.
Hopefully next month it'll get more usage

Malkyrian · Apr 1st, 2012, 9:57:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat ~GreenCore

looooooooooool caterpie OU

That was probably a mistake, actually. Lucario beat Caterpie in the three-month usage stats (granted, 84 to 89, but still) and Lucario has been due for a fall to UU for quite some time now (and is correctly listed as falling to UU).

Granted, Caterpie is a good mon and it should do very well in UU, but it's not quite OU caliber. It's just too predictable. It's sad, really, if its movepool were just a little more expansive it could be top-tier OU.

Professor Layton · Apr 1st, 2012, 10:05:27 PM

This moment will be remembered forever.

UltiMario · Apr 1st, 2012, 10:06:30 PM

^ Best. Post.

ChaoticaMortis · Apr 1st, 2012, 10:12:02 PM

Thread of the year.

Also:

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420 · Apr 1st, 2012, 10:19:12 PM

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| 17 | Scizor | 8.786% |
| 18 | Tyranitar | 8.478% |
| 23 | Dragonite | 6.825% |
| 33 | Politoed | 5.838% |
| 34 | Heatran | 5.697% |

I can't believe nobody caught those last two. Nice april fools guys, but scizor and dragonite makes it too obvious.

jonathanrp · Apr 1st, 2012, 10:22:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Arcticblast

I came into this thread expecting to see the usual Scizor at #1 for the sake of avoiding my homework. But now I have one thing to say to Antar.

I love you.

It's funny because that's the same reason I did that too lol. It's best that we get back to our work from that trip though :p

But yes, ratatta is the new king of ubers!

Thundur · Apr 2nd, 2012, 12:08:58 AM

Someone please ban Electivire. That thing is way to good. He is over centralizing and OP. I wish the tiering contributors would look at the big picture and ban him.

P.S.: That CB Squirtle set is really getting annoying, everybody get original.

alexwolf · Apr 2nd, 2012, 12:09:56 AM

Btw when are the real stats coming out?

Farfan · Apr 2nd, 2012, 12:30:10 AM

YES! MY PREDICTIONS WERE TRUE!
Great work guys, I love the new tiers and I think this will bring me into competitive pokemon again. By the way I've seen a lot of Litwicks in DW OU, you should update that.

***Zebraiken**** · Apr 2nd, 2012, 12:47:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat alexwolf

Btw when are the real stats coming out?

Tomorrow.

alexwolf · Apr 2nd, 2012, 12:56:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zebraiken

Tomorrow.

By tomorrow you mean on the 2nd or on the 3rd of April? (i think that in some countries it is still 1st of April)

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Malkyrian Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 278	I'm frankly amazed that Squirtle is near the bottom in LC. I don't get how such a top-tier OU mon could be considered bottom-tier by LC players. I mean, seriously, three uses? Am I missing something here? Could someone explain to me just why LC Squirtle is so underused? EDIT: in case it wasn't obvious, I don't play LC and am just asking out of curiousity __________________ I play Touhou. Here are some of my best timeouts. A Fantasy's Transience \| Virtue of Wind God \| Nirvana's Cloudy Way in Purple \| Charming Siege from All Sides \| Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana

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Apr 1st, 2012, 8:52:40 PM	#110
DetroitLolcat It's Great! To Be! A Michigan Wolverine! Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,795	Okay, I think this is pretty obvious but why hasn't Grumpig gotten a Suspect Test yet? I mean, the only reason Dusknoir is even OU right now is to counter the Pig, and Grumpig can still outspeed and 2KO with Shadow Ball (after a CM)! You might think Vespiquen can counter it but what's it going to do when Piggy has enough Calm Minds? Nothing. And then you switch in your Dusknoir and get wrecked by Support Grumpig. I know it doesn't have the attacking power of the CM set, but who cares when you wall the entire freaking metagame! Toxic Spikes get you down? Heal Bell. Shelgon about to sweep? Thunder Wave. Don't even mention how it walls Quilava, the best revenge killer in the game. I don't even understand why someone would use Quilava when it's a liability against Grumpig. It also gets that sweet speed tie with Phione so it can stop it from sweeping. Also I thought SUnkern was useless in this meta but then I saw what the Physically Defensive set does. Not 2KO'd by CHOICE BAND Magikarp's Bounce, walls Feebas, and lols at Remoraid. Good shit. __________________ Favorite Pokemon-Swampert- formerly OU and staying that way. Cats are awesome, the best kind of cat is the Detroit Lion! Lolcat Nuzlocke Story http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou11556879

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shnen Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 817 London	Haha brilliant, dat restalk Squirtle in all seriousness though, can we please get the real stats? I was looking forward to the tier shifts x_x

Apr 1st, 2012, 9:16:10 PM	#111
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~GreenCore Robert you are cordially invited to go fuck yourself Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 889 México	looooooooooool caterpie OU __________________

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XcRunner Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 149	It's good to see that Ledyba is getting some serious usage now. With an eviolite, it seems to be the best Sunkern counter in the game right now. Once he's is gone, Electivire and Squirtle don't have to worry about a grass type resisting their extremely powerful attacks and then are able to sweep. I must say that I'm a little surprised that it's evolution Ledian has not gotten more usage with its amazing new iron fist ability, making it's Focus Punch only a 9hko on Deoxys-D when used with an adamant nature and a choice band. Hopefully next month it'll get more usage __________________ Running is Funning!

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