(Data) CAP 5th Generation Revamp: Colossoil - Page 2

Son_of_Shadoo · Jan 31st, 2012, 11:02:18 AM

And Colossoil is exceptionally powerful as is. However, it's difficult to see how it could really be retooled, from my perspective.

LouisCyphre · Jan 31st, 2012, 3:50:05 PM

Well it's good thing I just suggested a way to weaken him, ever so slightly.

Tortferngatr · Jan 31st, 2012, 6:23:57 PM

Why not have Rebound be a "free, can be activated Rapid Spin" that costs no energy and bypasses type immunities, but has all repercussions of Rapid Spin and is Tauntable?

Gerard · Feb 3rd, 2012, 1:27:36 AM

Or you could make Rebound a Magic Bounce that only works on the turn Collosoil switches in (like Syclant's Mountanier), altough if this is too powerful (it is) It could return a random hazzard from the ones that are on the field (or just being unaffected by hazzards in general might work)

Tortferngatr · Mar 5th, 2012, 4:02:47 PM

...Given we haven't had discussion here in over a month, why haven't we moved on to Krill, Syclant, Stratagem, or Voodoom yet?

Tortferngatr · Mar 28th, 2012, 6:40:22 PM

...Can we at least close this and finalize the changes to Soil we've already started?

Tortferngatr · Apr 19th, 2012, 10:44:32 PM

Bumping my proposal to close this and finalize the changes to Colossoil we've started.

Metal Bagon · May 6th, 2012, 1:30:13 AM

What's happening about this?

**Deck Knight** · May 27th, 2012, 8:27:40 PM

So I way dropped the ball on this. Which is amusing because I had a post made up and I said "eh, I'll do it later." Then six months of later happened.

In any case, the whole thing needs an update and I'll get to that now.

Colosshale

Colossoil

Deleted Moves:
Crunch (+1 MC) and Sunny Day (+2 MC) can no longer be learned by Colosshale.
Torment (+2 MC) and Venoshock (+2MC) have been removed entirely.

New Moves:
Drill Run is a Lv 0 Colossoil move.
Foul Play is an Egg Move.
Additional Non-CAP canon moves are Bubblebeam (Lv), Bulldoze (TM), Dragon Tail (Soil TM), Echoed Voice(TM), Mud Bomb (Egg), Mud Shot (Egg), Muddy Water (Lv), Quash (TM), Retaliate (TM), Round (TM), Sludge Bomb (TM), Sludge Wave (TM), Smack Down (Soil TM), Snarl (TM), Tackle (Lv), and Water Spout (Egg).

Move Shifts:

Aqua Tail and Dive are now Previous Gen Tutor only.
Dark Pulse is now Previous Gen TM Only.
Dig is now Level-Up Only.
Mud Bomb and Mud Shot are now Egg only.

New Lv 25 Moveset for Colosshale:

0 Leer
0 Tackle
6 Bubblebeam
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam

Other Notes:

The change to Rebound's text officially ocurred quite a while ago in the DAT, somehow it never got changed in the CAP data. It is the correct description of Rebound.

Jan 31st, 2012, 11:02:18 AM	#26
Son_of_Shadoo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,850 Northern Ireland	And Colossoil is exceptionally powerful as is. However, it's difficult to see how it could really be retooled, from my perspective. __________________ CAP ASB Team ASB Referee Profile My Soundcloud 23:53 SevenDeadlySins i hereby appoint MK_Ultra fagmaster general of asb 23:53 MK_Ultra that post comes with ops right 23:53 SevenDeadlySins bops

Jan 31st, 2012, 3:50:05 PM	#27
LouisCyphre heralds disaster. Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,203 fucking majestic	Well it's good thing I just suggested a way to weaken him, ever so slightly. __________________ (CAP ASB \| ASB Ref \| Battle Pike \| ASB Labyrinth \| ASB Inquisition) If I am late for something, remind me that it exists on my wall or in IRC. I'll never remember otherwise. 15:31 <DHR> isnt cocke supposed to go up your nose?

Jan 31st, 2012, 6:23:57 PM	#28
Tortferngatr Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,545 United States of America	Why not have Rebound be a "free, can be activated Rapid Spin" that costs no energy and bypasses type immunities, but has all repercussions of Rapid Spin and is Tauntable? __________________ Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1 If only the max avatar filesize was 90K... \|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile \| Last edited by Son_of_Shadoo; Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:35:06 AM. Reason: Deleted material irrelevant to Soil revamp

Mar 5th, 2012, 4:02:47 PM	#30
Tortferngatr Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,545 United States of America	...Given we haven't had discussion here in over a month, why haven't we moved on to Krill, Syclant, Stratagem, or Voodoom yet? __________________ Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1 If only the max avatar filesize was 90K... \|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile \|

Mar 28th, 2012, 6:40:22 PM	#31
Tortferngatr Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,545 United States of America	...Can we at least close this and finalize the changes to Soil we've already started? __________________ Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1 If only the max avatar filesize was 90K... \|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile \|

Feb 3rd, 2012, 1:27:36 AM	#29
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,001 Mmm... Ice Cream!	Or you could make Rebound a Magic Bounce that only works on the turn Collosoil switches in (like Syclant's Mountanier), altough if this is too powerful (it is) It could return a random hazzard from the ones that are on the field (or just being unaffected by hazzards in general might work)

Apr 19th, 2012, 10:44:32 PM	#32
Tortferngatr Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,545 United States of America	Bumping my proposal to close this and finalize the changes to Colossoil we've started. __________________ Cookie's law of a forum: as a thread gets longer, the probability of it being derailed by a religion argument approaches 1 If only the max avatar filesize was 90K... \|CAPASB stuff: My CAPASB Team~My reffing profile \|

May 6th, 2012, 1:30:13 AM	#33
Metal Bagon Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,669	What's happening about this?

May 27th, 2012, 8:27:40 PM	#34
Deck Knight Jigen Makkoto Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,847 Massachusetts	So I way dropped the ball on this. Which is amusing because I had a post made up and I said "eh, I'll do it later." Then six months of later happened. In any case, the whole thing needs an update and I'll get to that now. Colosshale Colosshale: Height: 6' 11" Weight: 1205.6 lbs / 548 kg Evolution: Colosshale -> Level-Up with Dig -> Colossoil Type: Dark/Water Dark: Dark STAB; Immunity to all telepathic and telekinetic attacks, better performance in all darkened and especially twilight conditions. Can use any Dark-type attack regardless of Attraction. Water: Water STAB; Can breathe and have excellent mobility when underwater, are less capable on land unless they are entirely amphibious. Abilities: Rebound: (Can Be Activated) The Pokemon is able to bounce one layer of an entry hazard back from their side of the field to the other side with their immense strength and intuition. Storm Drain: (Innate) This Pokemon lures all water attacks to itself, altering their course away from partner Pokemon. It absorbs the water and increases its Special Attack by one (1) stage. This boost is maintained at the end of each round. Flare Boost (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon's body can harness the heat from a burn into internal energy, fueling its mental capabilities. When Burned, the Pokemon's special attacks have two (2) more Base Attack Power. Stats: 83 / 42 / 52 / 71 / 62 / 85 HP: 100 Atk: Rank 2 Def: Rank 2 SpA: Rank 3 SpD: Rank 3 Spe: 85 Size Class: 4 Weight Class: 9 Base Rank Total: 16 4th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Leer 0 Tackle 6 Bubblebeam 11 Bite 17 Rapid Spin 22 Body Slam 29 Pursuit 35 Bounce 41 Dig 42 Magnitude 48 Stockpile 48 Swallow 48 Spit Up 55 Muddy Water 5th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Leer 0 Tackle 6 Bubblebeam 11 Bite 17 Rapid Spin 22 Body Slam 29 Pursuit 35 Bounce 41 Dig 42 Magnitude 48 Stockpile 48 Swallow 48 Spit Up 55 Muddy Water Egg Moves: Double-Edge Encore Fake Out Fire Fang Fissure Flail Foul Play Horn Drill Mud Bomb Mud Shot Sand Tomb Screech Sucker Punch Thunder Fang Water Spout 4th Gen Tutor Moves: AncientPower Aqua Tail Bounce Dive Earth Power Knock Off Rollout Snore Sucker Punch 4th Gen TMs: TM05 Roar TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM12 Taunt TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM21 Frustration TM23 Iron Tail TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM32 Double Team TM42 Facade TM43 Secret Power TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM49 Snatch TM58 Endure TM63 Embargo TM66 Payback TM78 Captivate TM79 Dark Pulse TM80 Rock Slide TM82 Sleep Talk TM83 Natural Gift TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute HM04 Strength HM06 Rock Smash 5th Gen TMs: TM05 Roar TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM12 Taunt TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM21 Frustration TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM32 Double Team TM34 Sludge Wave TM36 Sludge Bomb TM42 Facade TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM46 Thief TM48 Round TM49 Echoed Voice TM60 Quash TM63 Embargo TM66 Payback TM67 Retaliate TM78 Bulldoze TM80 Rock Slide TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute TM94 Rock Smash TM95 Snarl HM04 Strength Colossoil Colossoil: Height: 8' 8" Weight: 1504.8 lbs / 684 kg Evolution: Colosshale -> Level-Up with Dig -> Colossoil Type: Dark/Ground Dark: Dark STAB; Immunity to all telepathic and telekinetic attacks, better performance in all darkened and especially twilight conditions. Can use any Dark-type attack regardless of Attraction. Ground: Ground STAB; Immune to all electrical attacks, can Dig through almost any substance, Evasive Digging reduced from 3 per action Energy Cost to 2 per action, superior senses in darkened cave surroundings. Abilities: Rebound: (Can Be Activated) The Pokemon is able to bounce one layer of an entry hazard back from their side of the field to the other side with their immense strength and intuition. Guts: (Innate) This Pokemon is tenacious and will work ever harder when under a status condition, raising the base attack power of all its physical attacks by two (2). Pokemon with Guts ignore the attack drop from burn. Pressure (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon’s presence fills the air with intense anxiety, and any damaging or status attack launched at this Pokemon costs the opposing Pokemon two (2) more energy to perform. Stats: 133 / 122 / 72 / 71 / 72 / 95 Colossoil HP: 120 Atk: Rank 5 Def: Rank 3 SpA: Rank 3 SpD: Rank 3 Spe: 95 Size Class: 5 Weight Class: 10 Base Rank Total: 22 4th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Leer 0 Peck 6 Horn Attack 11 Bite 17 Rapid Spin 22 Body Slam 29 Pursuit 35 Bounce 42 Magnitude 48 Stockpile 48 Swallow 48 Spit Up 55 Crunch 63 Megahorn 70 Horn Drill 5th Gen Level-Up Moves: 0 Drill Run 0 Leer 0 Peck 6 Horn Attack 11 Bite 17 Rapid Spin 22 Body Slam 29 Pursuit 35 Bounce 42 Magnitude 48 Stockpile 48 Swallow 48 Spit Up 55 Crunch 63 Megahorn 70 Horn Drill Egg Moves: Double-Edge Encore Fake Out Fire Fang Fissure Flail Foul Play Horn Drill Mud Bomb Mud Shot Sand Tomb Screech Sucker Punch Thunder Fang Water Spout 4th Gen Tutors: AncientPower Aqua Tail Body Slam Bounce Dive Earth Power Knock Off Rollout Snore Sucker Punch Superpower 4th Gen TMs: TM05 Roar TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM12 Taunt TM15 Hyper Beam TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM21 Frustration TM23 Iron Tail TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM31 Brick Break TM32 Double Team TM37 Sandstorm TM42 Facade TM43 Secret Power TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM49 Snatch TM58 Endure TM63 Embargo TM66 Payback TM68 Giga Impact TM71 Stone Edge TM78 Captivate TM79 Dark Pulse TM80 Rock Slide TM82 Sleep Talk TM83 Natural Gift TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute HM04 Strength HM06 Rock Smash 5th Gen TMs: TM05 Roar TM06 Toxic TM10 Hidden Power TM11 Sunny Day TM12 Taunt TM17 Protect TM18 Rain Dance TM21 Frustration TM23 Smack Down TM26 Earthquake TM27 Return TM28 Dig TM31 Brick Break TM32 Double Team TM34 Sludge Wave TM36 Sludge Bomb TM37 Sandstorm TM39 Rock Tomb TM42 Facade TM44 Rest TM45 Attract TM46 Thief TM48 Round TM49 Echoed Voice TM60 Quash TM63 Embargo TM66 Payback TM67 Retaliate TM71 Stone Edge TM78 Bulldoze TM80 Rock Slide TM82 Dragon Tail TM84 Poison Jab TM87 Swagger TM89 U-turn TM90 Substitute TM94 Rock Smash TM95 Snarl HM04 Strength Deleted Moves: Crunch (+1 MC) and Sunny Day (+2 MC) can no longer be learned by Colosshale. Torment (+2 MC) and Venoshock (+2MC) have been removed entirely. New Moves: Drill Run is a Lv 0 Colossoil move. Foul Play is an Egg Move. Additional Non-CAP canon moves are Bubblebeam (Lv), Bulldoze (TM), Dragon Tail (Soil TM), Echoed Voice(TM), Mud Bomb (Egg), Mud Shot (Egg), Muddy Water (Lv), Quash (TM), Retaliate (TM), Round (TM), Sludge Bomb (TM), Sludge Wave (TM), Smack Down (Soil TM), Snarl (TM), Tackle (Lv), and Water Spout (Egg). Move Shifts: Aqua Tail and Dive are now Previous Gen Tutor only. Dark Pulse is now Previous Gen TM Only. Dig is now Level-Up Only. Mud Bomb and Mud Shot are now Egg only. New Lv 25 Moveset for Colosshale: 0 Leer 0 Tackle 6 Bubblebeam 11 Bite 17 Rapid Spin 22 Body Slam Other Notes: The change to Rebound's text officially ocurred quite a while ago in the DAT, somehow it never got changed in the CAP data. It is the correct description of Rebound. __________________ [17:53] <&Deck_Knight> If I Cite and Prune CiteandPrune's post, what does that make me? [17:54] <Birkal> a citeandprune cite and prunner [17:54] <%DHR> O_o lol [17:54] <+Mos_Quitoxe> Cite and Prune doesn't do enough of either [17:55] <+Mos_Quitoxe> can we make him change it or force him to pay damages [17:55] <&Deck_Knight> It would be a lot easier for him to Cite and Prune if we made him a mod. [17:56] <&Deck_Knight> I delegate this task to Birkal. [17:57] <Birkal> >:\| Last edited by Deck Knight; May 27th, 2012 at 10:55:22 PM.