My first team about hail

[Firion the rose rebel]

HAIL

(First of all,sorry for my bad english)
So, I'm new at this site,from some weeks i found myself highly interested in pokèmon battles.After reading lots of things here,and learning a bit via battling,i decided to do a team,so i can learn more,play with fun,and who knows,one day share my toughts :)

I choosed Hail because it instantly entered in my mind while thinking on a team to do,and because i saw really few of them while battling before.

Here's my team:


Abomasnow @ Focus Sash
Trait: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Blizzard
- Ice Shard
- Wood Hammer
- Earthquake

Well,best ability for hail,i suppose.
The EV spread is custom ,as i wanted to make him hit other weather n summoners,and he does it now. Thanks to focus sash,enemies's Ninetales can't kill me as they think,and a combination of earthquake + ice shard kills it.


Reuniclus @ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Guard
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Def / 48 SAtk / 8 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Focus blast
- Psishock
- Recover
- Calm mind

Useful with fight types,and Blissey.
She is pretty good at tanking some threats too,but sometimes she dies too much fast,so i'm not sure how to make it better for my taste.Oh,and psishock maybe is my only way to really hit blissey,because every other teammate has only special attacks,so i rely on her lots in this cases.


Jellicent @ Leftovers
Trait: Water absorb
EVs: 248 Hp / 216 Def / 44 Spe
Bold nature (Def +, -Atk)
~ Scald
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Recover
~ Taunt
REally fits my team.Taking fight types with his resistances,as long as Volcarona. Scald and Will-O-Wisp are useful to burn most troublesome opponents,Scizor the most. With taunt i can put ferrothorn/forretress to hell,as other tanks. First i had heatran here,but it just seemed ankward in my team.I really prefer jellicent,it really gives a boost to my team ,i think.


Kyurem @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 36 Atk / 252 SAtk / 220 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Blizzard
- Focus blast
- Draco meteor
- Outrage

The star of the team.Can take down most things easily. Yeah,he is so frail,but coming out generically at late game,he has enough time to do his job,with most counters taken out previously.Even steel types suffers from him,thanks to the powerful focus blast he has.
Sadly,some dragons can kill him before he has a chance to attack


Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Recover
- Rapid spin

As my team hates stealth rocks,and others hazards,i choosed her for spinning away all.Fast,strong,covering fire,fight,steel weakness. Most frail thunder pokèmons get really hurt too with a 100% chance of hitting from blizzard,sometimes killing them before they harm me.It's risky,but she always did this job really well for now. I tried a version with recover instead of blizzard,but most times she needed to heal,it was never enough for her to survive,so i opted for a sort of sweeper set.


Rotom-F @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Blizzard
- Thunderbolt
- Pain split
- Substitute

Just lovely. Hard hitting with blizzard and bolt,taking his hp away with substitute,and splitting to cure.Found it realy useful,in my opinion.I sweeped most of the opponent's team so much with him,that probably is the best sweeper of the team,at least for most of the early game.


So,what do you think of it? I played for days with this team,making it better each time i saw some trouble,i think is enough to say is not so bad,but never found major issues troubling it,except pokèmons who bulks up or things like that really fast.I think there are too much pokemons weak to fight,and i will like to put both heatran and jellicent,but duno wjho to take out instead,Any kind of help is appreciated :)

[Taylor]

a few of your descriptions need lengthening before it is likely to recieve any rates. your thread will be locked if you do not expand upon your context for each individual pokemon in your team.

[Trickzio]

While just skimming through the post I saw Earthquake on Heatran, with no attacking EVs or natures.
Why not Earth Power? Was that a mistake? Earthquake is considered a physical move (which makes no sense, but considering the lack of any reliable ground-type physical moves without, I suppose that it's plausible).

[Firion the rose rebel]

Edited,hoping it can be accepted now ^^

Originally Posted by Fat Trickzio

While just skimming through the post I saw Earthquake on Heatran, with no attacking EVs or natures.
Why not Earth Power? Was that a mistake? Earthquake is considered a physical move (which makes no sense, but considering the lack of any reliable ground-type physical moves without, I suppose that it's plausible).

Yeah, a mistake ^^' In italian these two moves have really different names,so when i translate earth power,i always misunderstand with earthquake.

[ThatsMyLatios]

For Starters You should ditch Blizzard or Thunderbolt from Starmie and add recover. Preferably Blizzard as Rotom-F, Kyurem, and Abomasnow already provide Ice STAB in your team. Recover is necessary for you because with 3 pokes weak to stealth rock you will likely need to be spinning multipile times in the game. Also you should run more speed on your Abomasnow, that will help you Outspeed more TTars, and Politoeds.

The Standard mix attacking set should be fine:

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@Expert Belt
Lonely Nature 252 ATK 144 SpA 112 Spe
-Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
-Blizzard
-Hidden Power Fire
-Ice Shard
This set is better than what you currently have; the moveset is fairly obvious Seed Bomb if you dont want Recoil to take its toll. Earthquake is a possibility but I personally dont like it. This set also handles VoltTurn well but you have to be careful with Scizor.

Finally I think you should consider Leftovers on Rotom because this will help its survivability, and the Life Orb doesnt seal many vital 2hkos anyway.

Obviously the team isnt perfect with the 4 pokes weak to Fight but I do like the team, hopefully you take on board my suggestions. Good Luck :]

[Firion the rose rebel]

Originally Posted by Fat ThatsMyLatios

For Starters You should ditch Blizzard or Thunderbolt from Starmie and add recover. Preferably Blizzard as Rotom-F, Kyurem, and Abomasnow already provide Ice STAB in your team. Recover is necessary for you because with 3 pokes weak to stealth rock you will likely need to be spinning multipile times in the game. Also you should run more speed on your Abomasnow, that will help you Outspeed more TTars, and Politoeds.

The Standard mix attacking set should be fine:

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@Expert Belt
Lonely Nature 252 ATK 144 SpA 112 Spe
-Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
-Blizzard
-Hidden Power Fire
-Ice Shard
This set is better than what you currently have; the moveset is fairly obvious Seed Bomb if you dont want Recoil to take its toll. Earthquake is a possibility but I personally dont like it. This set also handles VoltTurn well but you have to be careful with Scizor.

Finally I think you should consider Leftovers on Rotom because this will help its survivability, and the Life Orb doesnt seal many vital 2hkos anyway.

Obviously the team isnt perfect with the 4 pokes weak to Fight but I do like the team, hopefully you take on board my suggestions. Good Luck :]

YEah,recover is way better,no need of more ice power from her anyway ^^

For rotom,i tried leftovers on him,but never saved it for a real threat,and with life orb recoil i can do better the pain split,if timed well.

And abomasnow....yeah,my tricky part of the team.Most people i fought just focused on try to kill it with their weather summoner,so i preferred to make him a sort of counter for them. It worked lots like this,making me not fear from others weathers.
Still,i'm not sure ,it's really so bad? Just to know,i don't wanna stay with it if it's so bad for all others ^^' But if is just a preference,i think i take it as it is,it's my style