Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th

[Rayquaza_]

Originally Posted by Fat Saitsuofleaves

Who cares how many pokes a Gym Leader could have? In G/S Whitney was pretty much just Miltank and still ran a train on everyone. As long as the pokes he has are strong, it's fine.

Also, because looking at Nexus' sig reminded me, moment of silence for Lin's bending...never again shall we see such grace :'(

Except at that point in the game it was impossible to take down Miltank before she could sweep your team with Rollout unless you were overleveled.
By the time you're at the 8th gym you should have plenty of ways to OHKO everything he can throw at you, unless the gym leader happens to have pokemon that cover his primary weaknesses. The less pokemon he has, the higher the chances he won't be able to do so.

[Lucario_Guy]

Originally Posted by Fat Saitsuofleaves

Also, because looking at Nexus' sig reminded me, moment of silence for Lin's bending...never again shall we see such grace :'(

Agreed. :( ...at least she has the opportunity to live up to her title of Batman, now, without her special powers! :P


On-topic: I know most of the new 'Dex has yet to be revealed, but, so far, what monsters are you all looking forward to having on your BW2 teams? Mine's currently something like this (I even gave 'em nicknames already! Can you guess the theme?):

Snivy - Emile
Azurill - Devin
Riolu - Giancarlo
Growlithe - Rodri
Magnemite - Brax
...and a currently undetermined HM slave named STEVE. :P

[IncantareFox]

I'm waiting to see what, if any, changes are made to movepools before I commit to a starter. I used Snivy in White 1, so I'm hoping I'm probably going with the others. If I get Oshawott, I'll name her Jill. If Tepig, probably Kortha (though I'd have to relisten to the podcast to make sure that name is accurate).

[Katakiri]

Magnemite right before Homika's Gym. She's more screwed than Yellow Giovanni's Dugtrio when a Level 2 Pidgey switches in.

I knew Riolu would be an early Pokemon due it's Pokedex numbering being Woobat's in BW1 but by this game's Route 2 is pretty crazy. Even Huge Power Azurill seems a bit much this early on. Although they all evolve via Happiness; that could get annoying if Soothe Bell isn't around. I guess that must be how they're keeping early Lucario, Marill, Magmar, & Electibuzz at bay.

Also where's Riolu's cousin Zorua? Seems odd for them to be apart if Riolu's there this early.

[TerrickTerran]

Magby and Elekid evolve at level 30 not via happiness.

[BowlArt64]

Originally Posted by Fat Lucario_Guy

Agreed. :( ...at least she has the opportunity to live up to her title of Batman, now, without her special powers! :P


On-topic: I know most of the new 'Dex has yet to be revealed, but, so far, what monsters are you all looking forward to having on your BW2 teams? Mine's currently something like this (I even gave 'em nicknames already! Can you guess the theme?):

Snivy - Emile
Azurill - Devin
Riolu - Giancarlo
Growlithe - Rodri
Magnemite - Brax
...and a currently undetermined HM slave named STEVE. :P

If there's Emile and Steve, it must be a chuggaaconroy reference.

I love the variety of Pokemon available early on. I'll probably have to do multiple playthroughs to use all my favorites, since the Dex is pretty much looking to be full of them. I may not even use my starter, depending on what Pokemon of their types are ultimately available.

[Tytus]

Originally Posted by Fat The Cicada

still want to know if N is champion or not.

Originally Posted by Fat The Cicada

when will we know if N is champion or not? .-.

Originally Posted by Fat The Cicada

why do we not know the champion yet? .-.

Guys The Cicada must be tearing out his hair in frustration, why won't any of you cruel people answer his question???

[Dcae]

I am looking forward to this game in huge anticipation... Maybe this will be clincher to bring me back to Pokemon...

[Joeyboy]

Originally Posted by Fat Tytus

Guys The Cicada must be tearing out his hair in frustration, why won't any of you cruel people answer his question???

Because we have no idea about the answer, we have no more information then cicada.

[Saitsuofleaves]

Originally Posted by Fat Rayquaza_

Except at that point in the game it was impossible to take down Miltank before she could sweep your team with Rollout unless you were overleveled.
By the time you're at the 8th gym you should have plenty of ways to OHKO everything he can throw at you, unless the gym leader happens to have pokemon that cover his primary weaknesses. The less pokemon he has, the higher the chances he won't be able to do so.

Yeah, but at this stage of Pokes, especially with the advent of older region pokes coming in, how often would the 8th gym be a challenge anyway?

Hell, overall, the only 8th gym I struggled with, and consider the fact that I'm absolutely HORRID at In-Game (well, I'm not much better overall in Pokemon), was Juan in Emerald, and that's just because his Kingdra was a dick.

But yeah, if people are complaining, then show how you'd build your own Eighth Gym, while going under the rules that all the pokes have to share a Typing and have to share at least one TM move of said typing (which will mostly likely be their main STAB), Levels and other things within reason as well.

[Big Nutter]

Originally Posted by Fat Tytus

Guys The Cicada must be tearing out his hair in frustration, why won't any of you cruel people answer his question???

Well, there is word that Bianca is Champion...... however the source is 18 months old.

[The Cicada]

Originally Posted by Fat Big Nutter

Well, there is word that Bianca is Champion...... however the source is 18 months old.

Fail troll is fail. Go take trolling lessons, good sir.

[Wishy]

Originally Posted by Fat Lucario_Guy

Agreed. :( ...at least she has the opportunity to live up to her title of Batman, now, without her special powers! :P


On-topic: I know most of the new 'Dex has yet to be revealed, but, so far, what monsters are you all looking forward to having on your BW2 teams? Mine's currently something like this (I even gave 'em nicknames already! Can you guess the theme?):

Snivy - Emile
Azurill - Devin
Riolu - Giancarlo
Growlithe - Rodri
Magnemite - Brax
...and a currently undetermined HM slave named STEVE. :P

I MUST HAVE A GROWLITHE ASAP. Lucky for me, Tachiwaki Complex seems to be pretty close to the beginning of the game. The rest will just be spontaneous, of-the-moment, stuff... minus most of what I used in BW1.

[breh]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Oh I see his dad works for Nintendo. It's cool guys, totes legit

You found TropiOUs!

Agreeing that Magnemite is cool. This game is actually shaping up to be like XD (which is one of my favorite Pokemon games) - essentially, they give you good Pokemon to start with (for example, the first thing you're told to catch in XD is a Teddiursa with Return as a purification move.. far from the Patrats, Zigzagoons, and Rattatas of other games; I realize they give you junk sometimes, but at others, they give you fantastic Pokemon like Spheal, Houndour, Mareep... etc. earlygame) and ramp up the trainer prowess to compensate.

[The Cicada]

Originally Posted by Fat Tytus

Guys The Cicada must be tearing out her hair in frustration, why won't any of you cruel people answer her question???

fixd for ya

[Dark Arceus]

Originally Posted by Fat The Cicada

Fail troll is fail. Go take trolling lessons, good sir.

Someone needs to take lessons on learning to take a joke. Starting to wish there was a way to ignore posts by members because I cringe ever time I've seen any by this person. Don't wish to sound too rude, but I mean I do want that feature in many instances I've seen some annoying posts (Asking when released 3 times)? Apologize if this comes out as an insult, it isn't intended to really.

In other news I advise believing none of the leaks without sources, some really ridiculous stuff is cropping up right now (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina in game because some guy saw the video of Keldeo vs. Dialga in one of the advertisments and he knows a guy who works at nintendo).

I already am set to get my copy of Japanese BW2 to use on Jap DS. Getting excited.

[Mario With Lasers]

Originally Posted by Fat IncantareFox

That said, Serebii announced on GameFAQs that you can link your games together (the B/W1, I believe) to trigger certain events. I'm hoping that the Champ turns out to be your BW1 PC if you do so. They DO keep your initial team separate from the 'standard' Hall of Fame.

Huh. Wouldn't the initial team be... your starter?

[R_N]

It'd be hilarious if they took your First Game Clear team

My Black version team had a Vullaby :V

[keleyeemoh]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

It'd be hilarious if they took your First Game Clear team

My Black version team had a Vullaby :V

Mine had Zebstrika and Vanilluxe.

[LockDown]

I doubt they could do that for the BW2 champion, because you don't even have to go back and beat the E4 and Champion after the main storyline in BW1. Though it could check to see if the BW1 cart has that Game Clear team and make a battleable NPC with it (in your secret base maybe???)

[The Reptile]

If the BW PC becomes the champion/battling NPC, then they will most likely just search for the starter you used and base a team around that (i.e. if you chose Tepig in BW the team would be Emboar, Simisage, a Water-type and 3 other filler mon. Hell, maybe even the legendary that you caught in BW could be there), since it's much simpler and not as easy to abuse (and if there is no game to scan, it'll either pick the unused starter in BW2 or the starter that is SE against you)

Also, wild ass speculation, but what if Ghetsis (or, more realistically, one of the sages) is the Champion? Like, what if Ghetsis' side of Team Plasma is trying to take over Unova by using more realistic measures of conquest like influencing political/governmental bodies (E4) rather than to straight up fight everything for power. Considering what Ghetsis has done in BW, I wouldn't be surprised. Meanwhile, N's side of Team Plasma broke off Evil Team Plasma because they truly believe what they preach and don't agree with Ghetsis. So kind of like a rebel group or something.There is of course no facts to back this up, so it most likely won't happen, but if it does, you heard it here first (as far as I know). I find this at least a bit more plausible than N being the champion (imo, he's most likely going to be an optional "boss" NPC like Steven or Cynthia in BW if anything).

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat The Reptile

If the BW PC becomes the champion/battling NPC, then they will most likely just search for the starter you used and base a team around that (i.e. if you chose Tepig in BW the team would be Emboar, Simisage, a Water-type and 3 other filler mon. Hell, maybe even the legendary that you caught in BW could be there), since it's much simpler and not as easy to abuse (and if there is no game to scan, it'll either pick the unused starter in BW2 or the starter that is SE against you)

If it goes by First Game Clear, it's not easy to abuse at all.

[The Reptile]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

If it goes by First Game Clear, it's not easy to abuse at all.

It could be, since (might just be me, however) some people use weaker pokemon to train them up, even in the first run (I definitely did) while using something a bit more powerful to help them train. And what about people who just clean sweep with one overleveled pokemon and a shit ton of items? It's possible for the player to do it, since they have atleast some competence (and item spam. AI do too, but they give up after a while), but an AI would fail. I might just be over thinking the possibilities though. It's definitely not the easiest thing to abuse, but it is possible.

[R_N]

In Dream World news, guess what?
The type of the Pokemon tucked in finally skews what area you go to!
http://en.pokemon-gl.com/support/help/world/821/

the only confirmed one is that water makes it more common to go to Sparkling Sea

[Mario With Lasers]

Jesus Christ, they are FINALLY getting it right