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Old Jun 18th, 2012, 5:54:26 PM   #551
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It's confirmed. Dozz is out of retirement for this one. It's going to be like a heartwarming British underdog film over two days.

sweeet dozz glad to see you can come! it'll be cool to meet you!
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Old Jun 18th, 2012, 5:59:15 PM   #552
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Not sure if this has been asked / answered yet, but what are the rulings on Black / White 2 trade-backs? Assuming people can get their Japanese copy of Black 2 or White 2 and they actually have new move tutors, access to new Dream World abilities, and the new Global Link areas release more DW abilities.. It'd be possible to potentially gain an advantage if anything strong is released so soon.
No they won't. From the SQSA thread.

EDIT: oops, actually from earlier in this thread
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Old Jun 18th, 2012, 6:02:21 PM   #553
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No they won't. From the SQSA thread.

EDIT: oops, actually from earlier in this thread
Ah okay, thanks for that.

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Old Jun 18th, 2012, 7:32:29 PM   #554
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It's confirmed. Dozz is out of retirement for this one. It's going to be like a heartwarming British underdog film over two days.
Good luck Dozz. I know you're british and that doesn't really matter, more the point I've enjoyed touring with you around Europe and it would be good if someone I've met goes to America and comes back with a top 4 spot for Hawaii, the ultimate way to go to Hawaii let's be honest.

Yeah thanks JRank I pointed it out to Havak earlier on FB and we discussed how much impact that would have since we were worried about our Manchester Tournament and how BW2 could affect it, nice to see it's been cleared up though.
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Old Jun 18th, 2012, 8:06:01 PM   #555
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Not sure if this has been asked / answered yet, but what are the rulings on Black / White 2 trade-backs? Assuming people can get their Japanese copy of Black 2 or White 2 and they actually have new move tutors, access to new Dream World abilities, and the new Global Link areas release more DW abilities.. It'd be possible to potentially gain an advantage if anything strong is released so soon.
In terms of BW2, I asked this twice and was told they weren't allowed twice. However, I never thought to ask about the Dream World changes. They might actually be allowed. I don't think there are too many unreleased Dream World abilities that would really shake up the metagame but an official Custap Berry release would likely change things. Hopefully nothing silly like a legal Soul Dew happens.

I would suggest everyone learn about the relevant BW2 and Dream World changes just in case. I may be paranoid, but I'm not fully convinced it's an issue they had thought through 100%. If you have the time and resources, you could also take the extreme measure of making and bringing a team that takes advantage of BW2 on the chance that the changes are considered legal.
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Old Jun 19th, 2012, 10:47:34 AM   #556
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In terms of BW2, I asked this twice and was told they weren't allowed twice. However, I never thought to ask about the Dream World changes. They might actually be allowed. I don't think there are too many unreleased Dream World abilities that would really shake up the metagame but an official Custap Berry release would likely change things. Hopefully nothing silly like a legal Soul Dew happens.

I would suggest everyone learn about the relevant BW2 and Dream World changes just in case. I may be paranoid, but I'm not fully convinced it's an issue they had thought through 100%. If you have the time and resources, you could also take the extreme measure of making and bringing a team that takes advantage of BW2 on the chance that the changes are considered legal.

-Players may use Pokémon with Hidden Abilities that have been officially released via Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version, the Pokémon Global Link, or an official event or promotion.

from the rules. so hidden abilities from black and white 2 will not be legal.
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Old Jun 19th, 2012, 8:07:00 PM   #557
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-Players may use Pokémon with Hidden Abilities that have been officially released via Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version, the Pokémon Global Link, or an official event or promotion.

from the rules. so hidden abilities from black and white 2 will not be legal.
The new Dreamworld stuff isn't necessarily BW2 only. The June 21st DW update may release new stuff to the BW games. 5th Gen Pokemon DW abilities are out but something like a Custap Berry could be legal. I'm probably worrying over nothing and we'll see what happens in a few days.
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Old Jun 19th, 2012, 10:27:29 PM   #558
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From the sounds of it Custap+other high number berries could be legal, as it would be possible to get them in BW. Wouldn't worry too much about them though, pretty gimmicky for the most part. DW abilities, though, are an entirely separate matter. Something could be released that can be caught in BW Dream World, but they could be cautious to do nothing too important.
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-Players may use Pokémon with Hidden Abilities that have been officially released via Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version, the Pokémon Global Link, or an official event or promotion.

from the rules. so hidden abilities from black and white 2 will not be legal.
The new Dreamworld stuff isn't necessarily BW2 only. The June 21st DW update may release new stuff to the BW games. 5th Gen Pokemon DW abilities are out but something like a Custap Berry could be legal. I'm probably worrying over nothing and we'll see what happens in a few days.
Also, I'm pretty sure the "via Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version" part is referring to Darmanitan and Musharna, since the Global Link part is listed separately from it. So that doesn't necessarily exclude BW2 Dream World stuff.
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Just letting everyone know that my brother and roommmate will be coming with me. I guess there is only one spot left in the top 4 now.
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If anyone cares, my cousins won't make it. I guess it's just my brother and I on the go for top 4 in seniors.
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For what it's worth, I'll be going to Nationals with my league. I've never been to a VGC event, so I'm pretty excited about it.

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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 9:31:26 AM   #569
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Well, this is a bit unfortunate, but it looks like I can't attend this year :<
We won't be getting back from our vacation unti Wednesday, so my parents will be too tired to get me over there. Huge shame, too, cause this team I have has been really successful.

Ah well, this looks like the end of my VGC12 season. Hope all the rest of you take tons of pics and video so I can see what I'll be missing :)
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 12:11:55 PM   #573
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I can't drive over from VA, and, being in college, my budget is reasonably tight.
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