Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 - Mark 2 ** Spoilers ** - Page 15

az20 · Jun 21st, 2012, 7:51:36 PM

With the release of dream world unova pokemon coming about, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned shadow tag chandelure or any other unova pkmn

hockeyguy605 · Jun 21st, 2012, 7:52:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat zero2exe

It's good to know there's finally some punishment for disconnectors :3
Also yay at all the awesome tutor moves <3

I still want to know the specifics of the whole disconnecting thing. I really hope it's something substantial to truly deter disconnecting.

Other than that, I'm really excited about the addition of Move Tutors, certain Legendary Pokemon, etc.

Cheapoman · Jun 21st, 2012, 8:15:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat az20

With the release of dream world unova pokemon coming about, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned shadow tag chandelure or any other unova pkmn

Shadow tag chandy coming in on some choiced fighting, bug or normal move, and setting up all over you while you begin struggling.

Can't imagine choice banded superpower from Scizor, only for chandy to lol at him and start setting up CM's and a sub. :/

Dark Arceus · Jun 21st, 2012, 8:42:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat hockeyguy605

I still want to know the specifics of the whole disconnecting thing. I really hope it's something substantial to truly deter disconnecting.

Other than that, I'm really excited about the addition of Move Tutors, certain Legendary Pokemon, etc.

I will bet my version of White2 when I get it that they most likely still won't be able to identify who disconnected and just penalizes both people so if someone doesn't care that much they can dc just to penalize the opponent.

breh · Jun 21st, 2012, 8:59:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cheapoman

Shadow tag chandy coming in on some choiced fighting, bug or normal move, and setting up all over you while you begin struggling.

Can't imagine choice banded superpower from Scizor, only for chandy to lol at him and start setting up CM's and a sub. :/

Don't worry, the metagame will either bend around Chandelure (and bend A LOT) or it will be banned. Not sure which, but it'll pass. People will stop using Choiced fighting moves overeagerly, I guess.

keleyeemoh · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat breh

Don't worry, the metagame will either bend around Chandelure (and bend A LOT) or it will be banned. Not sure which, but it'll pass. People will stop using Choiced fighting moves overeagerly, I guess.

Oh, it'll definitely be in Ubers.

Advancer · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:02:23 PM

It occurs to me that Uxie/Mesprit/Azelf and Regirock/Registeel/Regice might depend on what starter you picked, like with the beasts in FR/LG - it's just that it doesn't seem likely to me that GF would make a room for each of the legendaries, but will wait for confirmation.

Should note that I'm not surprised by these guys in the games, after all, the birds were in both Pt and HGSS and the beasts were in HGSS and a Gen IV event, whereas the Regis were only in Pt (and required an event Regigigas to access) and the Lake Guardians were only in DPPt.

Cresselia and Heatran however, did surprise me - do want confirmation on where/how and if they are in both games. Eon Pokes are nice, already picking White 2, not that it makes up for the Enigma Stone event I missed in SS...

Happy about the move tutors, but somewhat disappointed that some of the Gen III move tutors weren't brought back. Looking forward to reading the who-gets-what list whenever it comes out.

The Knights of Wario Land · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:03:14 PM

Oh my goodness

All these reveals

I just

Oh my goodness

...

Also Gliscor is totally going to be no. 1 in the ranks now.

**Mario With Lasers** · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat hockeyguy605

I still want to know the specifics of the whole disconnecting thing. I really hope it's something substantial to truly deter disconnecting.

Other than that, I'm really excited about the addition of Move Tutors, certain Legendary Pokemon, etc.

I'm ALMOST sure Kaphotics posted the GBU functions coded in-game and there's something about Nintendo/GF being able to identify who disconnected (in BW!).

Tytus · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:12:29 PM

Woah, the field for the World Championship final battle is pretty awesome with the spotlights going all over. The whole thing reminds me of Wrestlemania haha.

Kind of weird how the Muskateer Trio are just standing out in the open to be caught.

Edit: Oh god, Charles is back. I recall seeing a lot of people hoping this would happen lol

Kaphotics · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:15:27 PM

According to this source:

Saitsuofleaves · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:19:00 PM

170? Well they just got a first way ticket into Ubers, if Fusion Flare/Bolt didn't do that already.

Bond697 · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:20:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

I'm ALMOST sure Kaphotics posted the GBU functions coded in-game and there's something about Nintendo/GF being able to identify who disconnected (in BW!).

no, you're talking about this:

http://pastebin.com/1Nweewrt

search for "cheat" and "disconnect" if you don't want to read through the whole thing.

False Sense · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:21:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat False Sense

So we know that Uxie and Regirock are in the game, so 99% chance that the rest of their trio members are. So... that makes how many legendaries?

Kyurem, Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion, Reshiram/Zekrom, Latios/Latias, Cresselia, Regigigas, Uxie, Mespirit?, Azelf?, Regirock, Regice?, Registeel?

So if that's all of them (presumably), I counted 14 legendaries. Not to mention we don't know about those magma/water caves...

Oh no, I forgot Heatran! That's 15 legendaries!

Also, 170 atk/sp.atk in Kyurems formes? Wow, I didn't think it would be so high... so will that sheer power get Kyurem's formes banned, or is it's type giving it stealth rock and bullet punch weaknesses going to hold it back?

**Mario With Lasers** · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:26:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Bond697

no, you're talking about this:

http://pastebin.com/1Nweewrt

search for "cheat" and "disconnect" if you don't want to read through the whole thing.

Oh yeah, that's what I was talking about. Somebody (I guess now it was you!) made a post quickly explaining it, but even if it wasn't you, it's clear that they did have *something* ready to detect disconnecters already.

And lol, 170 Base offense. But seriously, what about Snow Warning Weakrem, Game Freak???

**R_N** · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:31:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

Oh yeah, that's what I was talking about. Somebody (I guess now it was you!) made a post quickly explaining it, but even if it wasn't you, it's clear that they did have *something* ready to detect disconnecters already.

And lol, 170 Base offense. But seriously, what about Snow Warning Weakrem, Game Freak???

I'm sure it's hiding in the Dream Radar
You just have to believe, MwL!

~~and admit that we aren't getting rematches~~

breh · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:31:55 PM

Welp, damn. I thought it would be something like 150 lol; I guess it was actually 170!

Holy shit.

They really want to get it just quickbanned, don't they?

(170 base Blizzard will be fun as hell; same can be said of Draco Meteor.)

**Mario With Lasers** · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:33:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat R_N

~~and admit that we aren't getting rematches~~

I swear I cannot even understand WHY we have had no word of rematches until now. Are they seriously going to appear only in that World Tournament? Meh

Saitsuofleaves · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:39:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat breh

Welp, damn. I thought it would be something like 150 lol; I guess it was actually 170!

Holy shit.

They really want to get it just quickbanned, don't they?

(170 base Blizzard will be fun as hell; same can be said of Draco Meteor.)

Oh, don't forget 170 SpA Fusion Flare and Focus Blast (since we're talking about White Kyurem).

Black Kyurem has Outrage and Fusion Bolt with 170 Atk.

Hmm...you guys think Black Kyurem will make it without much of a Physical movepool?

Purimpopoie · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:45:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Saitsuofleaves

Oh, don't forget 170 SpA Fusion Flare and Focus Blast (since we're talking about White Kyurem).

Black Kyurem has Outrage and Fusion Bolt with 170 Atk.

Hmm...you guys think Black Kyurem will make it without much of a Physical movepool?

Even if it's got a limited physical movepool, what could come in on a 170 Outrage and not be One-shotted/seriously maimed to where it's not doing any tanking anymore?

Saitsuofleaves · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:51:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Purimpopoie

Even if it's got a limited physical movepool, what could come in on a 170 Outrage and not be One-shotted/seriously maimed to where it's not doing any tanking anymore?

Idk...I still don't know all the calcs by memory.

How would Skarmory do?

Cheapoman · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:52:33 PM

170 offences sound scary. Banded Outrage / Specs Dragos will be something to look out for. o.0

Yoshi King · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:53:49 PM

Kind of a strange question, but would breeding pools be updated in Black 2/White 2? I'd like to know in the future if Blastoise gets access to Shell Smash.

gamer40000 · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:55:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Saitsuofleaves

Idk...I still don't know all the calcs by memory.

How would Skarmory do?

Choice Band Jolly Black Kyurem Outrage vs. Physically Defensive Skarmory: 30.83 - 36.52%

OmegaForte · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:58:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Yoshi King

Kind of a strange question, but would breeding pools be updated in Black 2/White 2? I'd like to know in the future if Blastoise gets access to Shell Smash.

So far, there isn't any news on new breeding pools yet. Most likely we'll know once people look into uknowhat and discover new breeding moves. Although I'm not getting my hopes up.

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Advancer Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 70 Canberra, Australia	It occurs to me that Uxie/Mesprit/Azelf and Regirock/Registeel/Regice might depend on what starter you picked, like with the beasts in FR/LG - it's just that it doesn't seem likely to me that GF would make a room for each of the legendaries, but will wait for confirmation. Should note that I'm not surprised by these guys in the games, after all, the birds were in both Pt and HGSS and the beasts were in HGSS and a Gen IV event, whereas the Regis were only in Pt (and required an event Regigigas to access) and the Lake Guardians were only in DPPt. Cresselia and Heatran however, did surprise me - do want confirmation on where/how and if they are in both games. Eon Pokes are nice, already picking White 2, not that it makes up for the Enigma Stone event I missed in SS... Happy about the move tutors, but somewhat disappointed that some of the Gen III move tutors weren't brought back. Looking forward to reading the who-gets-what list whenever it comes out. __________________ Dr. House: It's a play. Dudes only go to plays if they're dragged by women they're hoping to see naked.

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Tytus Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,422 RNG "abuse" just sounds so negative...	Woah, the field for the World Championship final battle is pretty awesome with the spotlights going all over. The whole thing reminds me of Wrestlemania haha. Kind of weird how the Muskateer Trio are just standing out in the open to be caught. Edit: Oh god, Charles is back. I recall seeing a lot of people hoping this would happen lol __________________ Nate: 4212 3316 6499 HeartGold: 4383 4383 4712

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breh Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,941	Welp, damn. I thought it would be something like 150 lol; I guess it was actually 170! Holy shit. They really want to get it just quickbanned, don't they? (170 base Blizzard will be fun as hell; same can be said of Draco Meteor.) __________________ VGC Regionals: VGC11 Top 16, VGC12 12th Place

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az20 Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 25	With the release of dream world unova pokemon coming about, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned shadow tag chandelure or any other unova pkmn

Jun 21st, 2012, 9:15:27 PM	#361
Kaphotics Remodeling Kitchens Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 758 Berkeley, CA	According to this source:

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Cheapoman Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 153	170 offences sound scary. Banded Outrage / Specs Dragos will be something to look out for. o.0 __________________ - Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is in an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob, and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.- Frederick Douglass, 1817-1895