Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 Move Tutor Moves

[NoUserName]

Originally Posted by Fat Saitsuofleaves

But hasn't it be hinted that Dugtrio actually does have claws, and we just can't see them as they're perennially underground?

Dugtrio even learns Scratch and Slash.

I have just looked in wordreference Sucker Punch and it means something like "An unexpeted hit", it hasn't to be done by a punch.

So in english means the same than in Japanese with "Surprise attack" because it is a set phrase which does not mean the same that the two words alone.


Going back to the thread..., SR Nidoqueen sounds nice, I had a Nidoqueen with SR and Super Fang and I must to run Poison Point, which even almost never activates, now she can run the same set with Sheer Forced Flamethrower.

[windwolf777]

Originally Posted by Fat Scarfwynaut

This is what:

Gliscor (F) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Taunt / Toxic
- Ice Fang

Oh god yes. I still may personally run protect though because passive recovery, Ill mess around with it.

Also don't disillusion yourself, payback literally only hits Jellicent. Reunicles and Slowbro laugh at 50 pase power payback and Alakazam, Espeon, and Gengar, Latios, Starmie 1HKO you. Latias and Celebi can take a payback fine and kill you in 2 hits.

You know, you could probably run sub instead of IF if you run toxic. Think about it, who are you hitting with IF ? Landbro, D-nite, other Gliscor, Salamense, etc. Sub scouts for HP Ice as toxic and proceed to stall him to death. Same thing for Sala. The only problem is other Gliscor with this set. But could it work ?

[BigZac]

Ohgod, Poison Heal Gliscor with Roost and Stealth Rock.

QQ

[I Am]

Originally Posted by Fat IcyMan28

Superpower will be great on Zekrom for removing Ferrothorn, as well as not having to use Outrage against Dialga. Bolt Strike / Outrage / Superpower / Dragon Claw seems like a pretty solid set.

Roost Multiscale Lugia will laugh even at Zekrom, though.

Doesn't Zekrom's Teravolt ability negate Multiscale? He should be able to rip right through Lugia.

[Dr Ciel]

That will the best wall of all time. I absolutely cannot wait for it to come to PO. 9Referring to Poison Heal Roost Gliscor)

[Scorpio]

So, does Typhlosion get Earth Power? It'll give it some badly-needed coverage which, while not completely game-breaking, will allow it some useability in UU or even OU.

[ThePillsburyDoughBoy]

Here is another tutor to watch out for: Endeavor. It is unlikely, but if it happens that Magic Guard Alakazam gets Endeavor it will be better than countercoat...

Can you imagine this: surviving a hit with 1 HP after you revenge kill something and then hit the thing coming in to 1 HP :o You could even save it for latter to have a sweep by threatening the kill or hitting the switch in for 1 HP who then dies. I think it would be the ultimate wall breaker. What is endeavor's flavor? Is it possible for it to get it?

[bubbly]

Originally Posted by Fat HolyAvatar

That one is gonna be hell to break. So hard to 2HKO without an ice move....
Even something like like SD/BP/EQ/Roost with poison heal is gonna be really annoying.

Agreed. Even though Keldeo makes it not the be all end all stop to Fighting offense, SR / Roost / EQ / (Toxic/Taunt/U-turn) is going to be everywhere.

[Sayonara]

If Volcarona got Earth Power, that'd be a great coverage move, that would allow it to beat non-Balloon Heatran. Also, Volcarona earning Roost seems appealing, as it would be a more reliable recovery move than Morning Sun, which is dependant on Sun being up to recover a good amount of health. If Hydreigon did get Roost, it could finally give Latios some competition again, as Latios wouldn't be able to boast anymore from having a reliable source of recovery in Recover.

[Dr Ciel]

That Gliscor set will be one of the greatest Physical Walls in OU. Gliscor will have a definite spike in usage.

[Dark Fallen Angel]

Originally Posted by Fat Sandstreamer

So far, only Drill Run seems interesting to me, and that's if more strange non-Ground mons like Fearow get it.

EDIT: I'm especially thinking about Escavalier here, who (only) needs some coverage moves to be a great Pokemon.

I think that most things that will get Drill Run will be those that already have acess to Earthquake, wich is obviously better. This will be also learned by Flying-types with beak (I think, since Fearow gets this move), but I still can't see this move being used since most Flying-types with beak don't have offensive presence (EX: Mandibuzz), are defensive (EX: Skarmory), already learn Earthquake (EX: Ho-Oh), sucks (EX: Pidgeot), don't have a good Attack to use this move effectively (EX: Togekiss) or already have another more effective move that supplies coverage needs (EX: Braviary). In my opinion Drill Run will barely get any use.

[jg1198]

Originally Posted by Fat Dark Fallen Angel

I think that most things that will get Drill Run will be those that already have acess to Earthquake, wich is obviously better. This will be also learned by Flying-types with beak (I think, since Fearow gets this move), but I still can't see this move being used since most Flying-types with beak don't have offensive presence (EX: Mandibuzz), are defensive (EX: Skarmory), already learn Earthquake (EX: Ho-Oh), sucks (EX: Pidgeot), don't have a good Attack to use this move effectively (EX: Togekiss) or already have another more effective move that supplies coverage needs (EX: Braviary). In my opinion Drill Run will barely get any use.

I see drill run becoming a staple in lower tier birds, like unfezant, Pidgeot, moltres maybe, pelliper, and swanna (assuming they get it, and why not, mons get crazy tutor moves all the time) simply because those birds often have crap for movepools, which is probably half the reason they're in NU and RU. Besides, look at pelliper's beak. That thing could cut diamonds like they were butter.

[Ricky Horror]

I'm more hyped about Ferro finally running stealth rocks, spikes, and leech seed. Gliscor can still be handled by any ice move; regardless of such an amazing physical bulk. Just like anything else of course.

[Scarfwynaut]

Originally Posted by Fat Dr Ciel

Wait just a minute there. Nidoqueen can finall be bulky, have rocks AND run an offensive set with said rocks? Sign me up for some of that.

Yo I forgot about Nidoqueen, being able to sun rocks with sheer force is a big boost, thanks.

I am not sure if I can just quite stop circle jerking about roost Gliscor though.

[PK Gaming]

Originally Posted by Fat Alucard

I know, but with waterfall you don't lock yourself into outrage nor you get confusion. Plus dragon+water is only resisted by Ferrothorn in OU i.e. perfect neutral coverage with just 2 moves and you can still use brick break for Ferro (or why not superpower if it gets it).

True, but Haxorus will need a boost (from CB or SD) in order to actually damage Gliscor, and 9 times out of 10 i'd rather be locked into Outrage instead of a non-stabbed 90BP water move. I just don't really see the move being useful in most circumstances.

Anyway at this point i've given up on Haxorus getting Fire Punch (don't wanna set myself up for a disappointment.) and i'm gunning for Thunderpunch instead.

[Ithilanor]

How will we know what mons get which tutor moves? Will someone have to brute force it in game, going through all the mons and checking what they can learn?

[Missingno. Master]

Originally Posted by Fat Ithilanor

How will we know what mons get which tutor moves? Will someone have to brute force it in game, going through all the mons and checking what they can learn?

It's more likely the ROM will leak first, allowing us to extract the information from that.

That said, anyone who happens to have a copy, don't be afraid to try things out!

[shrang]

Originally Posted by Fat ThePillsburyDoughBoy

Here is another tutor to watch out for: Endeavor. It is unlikely, but if it happens that Magic Guard Alakazam gets Endeavor it will be better than countercoat...

Can you imagine this: surviving a hit with 1 HP after you revenge kill something and then hit the thing coming in to 1 HP :o You could even save it for latter to have a sweep by threatening the kill or hitting the switch in for 1 HP who then dies. I think it would be the ultimate wall breaker. What is endeavor's flavor? Is it possible for it to get it?

Man I hope Snover will get Endeavor. Level 1 Endeavor + Snow Warning + Focus Sash = the best suicide weather lead ever.

[Nonary Game]

Originally Posted by Fat alexwolf

Don't you have EP?

I've had that stupid thing switch in on me with a Balloon more times than I can count. Except for the part where Stealth Rocks keep getting spun off. You are right though, between Fire, Dragon, Ground, and Dark, we have perfect coverage against almost everything. Nothing fully resists the entire gamut. Unless your name is Blissey, Chansey, or some variant of Tyranitar.

[android]

Originally Posted by Fat ThePillsburyDoughBoy

Here is another tutor to watch out for: Endeavor. It is unlikely, but if it happens that Magic Guard Alakazam gets Endeavor it will be better than countercoat...

Can you imagine this: surviving a hit with 1 HP after you revenge kill something and then hit the thing coming in to 1 HP :o You could even save it for latter to have a sweep by threatening the kill or hitting the switch in for 1 HP who then dies. I think it would be the ultimate wall breaker. What is endeavor's flavor? Is it possible for it to get it?

Reuniclus gets Endeavor, so I guess it's possible for Zam to get it. Reuniclus is too slow and bulky to use it effectively, but SashZam would be great abuser, especially in Hail. It's be nice if Zam got Vacuum Wave to go with it.

[SuperHydreigon1996]

I have realized that Synthesis is a tutor move for Black 2/White 2. It would be great if Ferrothorn gets Synthesis, although with all the sandstorm and rain going about in the metagame, I don't know how effective that would be. There's also Sun, which would boost Synthesis' effect, but Sand would still make Synthesis unreliable, to say the least.

[The Agonist]

Originally Posted by Fat ThePillsburyDoughBoy

Here is another tutor to watch out for: Endeavor. It is unlikely, but if it happens that Magic Guard Alakazam gets Endeavor it will be better than countercoat...

Can you imagine this: surviving a hit with 1 HP after you revenge kill something and then hit the thing coming in to 1 HP :o You could even save it for latter to have a sweep by threatening the kill or hitting the switch in for 1 HP who then dies. I think it would be the ultimate wall breaker. What is endeavor's flavor? Is it possible for it to get it?

If it got it from the Pt/HGSS tutors, then it'll most likely get it. If it didn't, then it most likely won't get it.

[Aerodactyl Legend]

Definitely hyped for Salamence and Gliscor. Been waiting a long time for the tutors.

[Dallasboi1992]

Gliscor must be partying over this news. I know it!

[assassinfred]

Please God, give Escavalier Drill Run.

I love Escavalier, and if it can learn Drill Run that just might give it the attention it deserves.