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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:37:12 PM   #426
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Guys ninetales gets pain split now! The worst weather inducer finally gets a form of recovery to alleviate that sr weakness.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:43:16 PM   #427
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It's about time Ninetales suffering ended. I bet she feels so relieved she gets an HP recovering move.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:43:20 PM   #428
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Considering that the other starters don't get anything besides ChestoResto, that's a step up!
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:47:42 PM   #429
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Volcarona is gonna be broken with giga drain. Although heatran & dragons are fullstop to it, your opponent will be smart enough to kill them first. Rain volcarona will become more effective too. It can also roost for consistent recovery. Overall, the best setup sweeper got better.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:48:54 PM   #430
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What do you guys think Hydreigons' new mixed set will look like?
I was thinking something like Draco Meteor/Fire Blast/Superpower/Roost, but I'm not sure about the Evs.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:51:04 PM   #431
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Considering that the other starters don't get anything besides ChestoResto, that's a step up!
Samurott gets Superpower
That's....something!
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:52:34 PM   #432
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I think he was talking about recovery for the other weather starters, not ingame ones.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:55:21 PM   #433
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Wow stop forgetting about Hippowdon :(
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Old Jun 22nd, 2012, 11:56:49 PM   #434
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I think he was talking about recovery for the other weather starters, not ingame ones.
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:01:55 AM   #435
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Not really relevant to OU, but...

Pain Split Musharna and Chandelure, oh lordy those will be annoying in doubles/VGC. And so many mons can learn Magic Room now too...

And Volcarona learns Giga Drain AND Roost?
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What do you guys think Hydreigons' new mixed set will look like?
I was thinking something like Draco Meteor/Fire Blast/Superpower/Roost, but I'm not sure about the Evs.
I think the EV's will be 104 Atk / 240 SAtk / 164 Spd or something close to that.
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:24:18 AM   #437
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In other news, Terrakion gets Stealth Rock. It's not exactly hard pressed for moveslots, and it can set them up on a switch, eg vs Tyranitar. For VGC, Reuniclus with Helping Hand and Hydreigon/Tornadus with Heat Wave are pretty neat (although everyone uses Acrobatics). Whimsicott or any other Prankster user getting After You would've been interesting.
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:29:58 AM   #438
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What I was wishing for has been confirmed - lightingrod/heat wave zapdos.
So I'm already satisfied!
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What I was wishing for has been confirmed - lightingrod/heat wave zapdos.
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:49:45 AM   #440
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:56:48 AM   #441
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Can somebody make a list of what pokes they think will be in OU soon with alll these new move tutors? Also, I'm immensly pissed no Fire Punch on Haxorus! I was looking forward to the Mammoth Raging through teams :/
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 1:04:27 AM   #442
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What issue, it simply becomes a Normal type for one turn. How is that a huge issue considering a Normal/flying using Roost becomes a Normal type as well. It's "OMFG Broken as hell" game changing at most it just got to watch out for stray Close Combats while roosting.
its the fact that it becomes a normal type when its not a normal type at all.

what SHOULD happen is tornadus just doesn't get a weakness when using roost but nope that doesn't happen.
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Can somebody make a list of what pokes they think will be in OU soon with alll these new move tutors? Also, I'm immensly pissed no Fire Punch on Haxorus! I was looking forward to the Mammoth Raging through teams :/
Mamoswine gets Superpower with Thick Fat I don't know what you are going on about there. Who cares about Fire Punch if Haxorus. Aqua Tail is just as good, if not better, to smash through Skarmory (play CB Haxorus in the rain see what switches in safely).
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 1:35:03 AM   #444
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its the fact that it becomes a normal type when its not a normal type at all.

what SHOULD happen is tornadus just doesn't get a weakness when using roost but nope that doesn't happen.
Part of their effort to remove the ??? type entirely. And I'm not sure why what it SHOULD do makes a difference, Game Freak has never shied away from counter-intuitive stuff before.
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 1:57:23 AM   #445
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Guys, Tornadus doesn't get Roost anyway, stop complaining...

Also, Volcarona. Since it now gets Giga Drain and Roost, what does everybody think it'll run? I feel like we won't see both on the same set, but for offensive QD I'm thinking QD | Fire Blast | Giga Drain / Bug Buzz | HP Rock / Giga Drain / Bug Buzz. BulkyRona will just run Roost over Morning Sun, and those weird Scarf ones I occasionally see will just have another move...
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 2:17:06 AM   #446
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Gliscor is having a field day. First it gets roost and now Stealth Rock. Good thing we got Ice Punch I guess.
Maybe we can get drizzle+swift swim since gliscor is invincible?

Please smogon, please?

Jk, but maybe ice punch won't do enough? I mean Gliscor can roost now right?

I'm a cretin for thinking drizzle+swift swim will be allowed.

P.S. GF didn't have to make menace and hax more powerful.
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 2:30:13 AM   #447
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Iron Fist Elemental Punching Infernape.....

is this really a big deal.

Serperior gets Aquatail?
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 3:56:41 AM   #448
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Trick Chandelure? gg. There goes its chances at staying OU.
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 4:52:22 AM   #449
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I am not looking forward to a metegame dominated by rain offence. Keldeo+Choice Band Haxorus+Therian Tornadus and Therian Thunderus is going to just kill everything. Excadrill is not getting unbanned now-Iron Head is just going to kill everything, but Garchomp might fit in well now what with all offensive overkill from rain. ScarfChomp would be able to kill off a lot of teams. Looking forward to using Landorus' Therian form though-Rock Polish is going to be a beast with LO.
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Old Jun 23rd, 2012, 5:34:56 AM   #450
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Here are all the TM/HM additions :

Code:
167 Spinarak / 168 Ariados :
_TM81 X-Scissor

214 Heracross :
_TM08 Bulk Up

509 Purrloin / 510 Liepard :
_TM89 U-Turn

573 Cinccino :
_TM46 Thief

599 Klink / 600 Klang / 601 Klinklang :
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