Magnezone (skeleton)

The QWAZ · May 26th, 2012, 9:49:07 AM

[Overview]

Weak to major threats
Slow
Only decent special bulk

Very powerful
Can trap steels
Only weak to one hazard
Small but precise movepool

[SET]
name: Substitute
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Flash Cannon
item: Leftovers
ability: Magnet Pull
nature: Modest
evs: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Substitute allows for scouting
Thunderbolt is standard STAB move and deals huge damage to water and flying types
Flash cannon is to beat down tyranitar
HP fire beats ferrothorn who overwise stops this set cold, HP ice is to kill dragons.
Leftovers allow magnezone to gain back lost substitute health

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

Speed beats adamant 252 scizor and all other defensive steel types
Thunder should be used over thunderbolt if you are running a rain team
HP fighting can be used to beat ferrothorn even in the rain and deal heavy damage to rock types
If hp fighting is used charge beam can replace flash cannon
An ev spread of 148 HP / 252 SpA / 108 Spe can be used to beat slow skarmory variants.
This set has issues with Raikou so special walls like Blissy or strong ground types such as choice scarf Garchomp make good teammates

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Volt Switch
move 3: Flash Cannon
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
item: Choice Specs
ability: Magnet Pull
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Fantastic wallbreaker
Good team player as it removes steels stopping a teammates sweep
Can switch in and out easily with many resistances and weakness to only one entry hazard.

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]



[Other Options]



[Checks and Counters]



will do the rest later

-Manaphy-- · May 26th, 2012, 10:39:42 AM

I find Magnezone a little questionable in Dream World simply because many things such as Skarmory and Ferrothorn are running Shed Shell anyway, plus Chandelure can trap anything with Shadow Tag and not just Steels. Has anyone used this to success?

The QWAZ · May 26th, 2012, 10:50:37 AM

I used it to some relative success and magnezone was a vital part of my team, however I mainly used it as a special nuke rather than a steel trapper, that was an added bonus.
I feel it has a good use on teams requiring a trapper not weak to SR or a rain trapper and unlike Chandelure it has good bulk and can capitalize on its good typing where as Chandelure is held back by its typing.

V0x · May 26th, 2012, 11:54:29 AM

Exactly, and Magnezone's attacks also aren't reall hindered by rain and it doesn't take sandstorm damage, making it the preferred option on some kinds of team.

Anyway, the Qwaz, some formatting things. You don't need to put IVs unless they are different from the ones PO's teambuilder automatically sets. Also, the stat abbreviations are HP, Atk, Def, SpA, SpD, and Spe, so you don't need all caps. Next, make sure you have spaces on both sides of the slash ie a / b not a/ b. Lastly, make sure everything that needs to be capitalized is: Magnet Pull, for example.

The QWAZ · May 26th, 2012, 12:21:40 PM

Okay I will edit in those changes.

Hawkstar · May 27th, 2012, 8:00:08 PM

For the first set's EV spread, 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe and Timid outruns Adamant 252 Scizor, but that's really rare and more of a Wifi OU kind of thing. 148 HP / 252 SpA / 108 Spe outruns no Speed Skarmory, the next slowest Steel-type on the DW speed tiers list.

Danilo · May 27th, 2012, 9:11:33 PM

Uh your spacing is wrong but don't worry ima help you out :)

:) copy and paste this into your op

uh I suggest make Choice Scarf and Choice Specs different sets with Scarf<Specs and a bulkier Specs EV spread! Generally, you keep the mention of using Thunder on a rain team in the AC.

The QWAZ · Jun 25th, 2012, 4:37:22 PM

Could somebody else please take this over, I have no time.
Thanks

May 26th, 2012, 9:49:07 AM	#1
The QWAZ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 527 Oxford, UK	Magnezone (skeleton) [Overview] <p> Weak to major threats Slow Only decent special bulk Very powerful Can trap steels Only weak to one hazard Small but precise movepool </p> [SET] name: Substitute move 1: Substitute move 2: Thunderbolt move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice move 4: Flash Cannon item: Leftovers ability: Magnet Pull nature: Modest evs: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe [SET COMMENTS] <p> Substitute allows for scouting Thunderbolt is standard STAB move and deals huge damage to water and flying types Flash cannon is to beat down tyranitar HP fire beats ferrothorn who overwise stops this set cold, HP ice is to kill dragons. Leftovers allow magnezone to gain back lost substitute health </p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p> Speed beats adamant 252 scizor and all other defensive steel types Thunder should be used over thunderbolt if you are running a rain team HP fighting can be used to beat ferrothorn even in the rain and deal heavy damage to rock types If hp fighting is used charge beam can replace flash cannon An ev spread of 148 HP / 252 SpA / 108 Spe can be used to beat slow skarmory variants. This set has issues with Raikou so special walls like Blissy or strong ground types such as choice scarf Garchomp make good teammates </p> [SET] name: Choice move 1: Thunderbolt move 2: Volt Switch move 3: Flash Cannon move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice item: Choice Specs ability: Magnet Pull nature: Timid / Modest evs: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe [SET COMMENTS] <p> Fantastic wallbreaker Good team player as it removes steels stopping a teammates sweep Can switch in and out easily with many resistances and weakness to only one entry hazard. </p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p></p> [Other Options] <p></p> [Checks and Counters] <p></p> will do the rest later __________________ VM/PM for an OU or RU rate. <undisputed\afk> who is qwaz Last edited by The QWAZ; May 29th, 2012 at 11:58:13 AM. Reason: formatting changes.

May 26th, 2012, 10:39:42 AM	#2
-Manaphy-- Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 337 New York	I find Magnezone a little questionable in Dream World simply because many things such as Skarmory and Ferrothorn are running Shed Shell anyway, plus Chandelure can trap anything with Shadow Tag and not just Steels. Has anyone used this to success? __________________ <Scofield> I never got a chance to tell you about the time i met a girl named shucca <@JabbaTheGriffin> i would have started making ground move puns, and then when she doesn't get them you go "oh that wasn't as effective as i thought it'd be"

May 26th, 2012, 10:50:37 AM	#3
The QWAZ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 527 Oxford, UK	I used it to some relative success and magnezone was a vital part of my team, however I mainly used it as a special nuke rather than a steel trapper, that was an added bonus. I feel it has a good use on teams requiring a trapper not weak to SR or a rain trapper and unlike Chandelure it has good bulk and can capitalize on its good typing where as Chandelure is held back by its typing. __________________ VM/PM for an OU or RU rate. <undisputed\afk> who is qwaz

May 26th, 2012, 11:54:29 AM	#4
V0x I love mafe Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,374	Exactly, and Magnezone's attacks also aren't reall hindered by rain and it doesn't take sandstorm damage, making it the preferred option on some kinds of team. Anyway, the Qwaz, some formatting things. You don't need to put IVs unless they are different from the ones PO's teambuilder automatically sets. Also, the stat abbreviations are HP, Atk, Def, SpA, SpD, and Spe, so you don't need all caps. Next, make sure you have spaces on both sides of the slash ie a / b not a/ b. Lastly, make sure everything that needs to be capitalized is: Magnet Pull, for example. __________________ [21:11] <&Oglemi> opera da best [21:12] <%Birkal> I love opera [21:12] <%Birkal> our college put on cosi last year; it was great [21:12] <%Birkal> OH MY GOODNESS [21:12] <%Birkal> THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT WEB BROWSERS [21:12] <%Birkal> =X

May 26th, 2012, 12:21:40 PM	#5
The QWAZ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 527 Oxford, UK	Okay I will edit in those changes. __________________ VM/PM for an OU or RU rate. <undisputed\afk> who is qwaz

May 27th, 2012, 8:00:08 PM	#6
Hawkstar Are you hanging by a thread or swinging from the rope? Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 630 Western Pennsylvania	For the first set's EV spread, 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe and Timid outruns Adamant 252 Scizor, but that's really rare and more of a Wifi OU kind of thing. 148 HP / 252 SpA / 108 Spe outruns no Speed Skarmory, the next slowest Steel-type on the DW speed tiers list. __________________ Art thread! [22:11] Helias: FUCK YOU HAWKSTAR THAT'S NOT MY NAME

May 27th, 2012, 9:11:33 PM	#7
Danilo Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,718 http://justsmogonthings.tumblr.com/	Uh your spacing is wrong but don't worry ima help you out :) :) copy and paste this into your op [Overview] <p></p> [SET] name: Substitute move 1: Substitute move 2: Thunderbolt move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice move 4: Flash Cannon item: Leftovers ability: Magnet Pull nature: Modest evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe (someone will help you out with these) [SET COMMENTS] <p></p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p></p> [SET] name: Choice move 1: Thunderbolt move 2: Volt Switch move 3: Flash Cannon move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice item: Choice Specs / Choice scarf ability: Magnet Pull nature: Timid / Modest evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe [SET COMMENTS] <p></p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p></p> [Other Options] <p></p> [Checks and Counters] <p></p> uh I suggest make Choice Scarf and Choice Specs different sets with Scarf<Specs and a bulkier Specs EV spread! Generally, you keep the mention of using Thunder on a rain team in the AC. __________________ kael: =\\ kael: fuck kael: pako kael: I WANT DESTROY HE kael: HE DON'T RESPECT ME

Jun 25th, 2012, 4:37:22 PM	#8
The QWAZ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 527 Oxford, UK	Could somebody else please take this over, I have no time. Thanks __________________ VM/PM for an OU or RU rate. <undisputed\afk> who is qwaz