5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 572

**voodoo pimp** · Jun 29th, 2012, 2:15:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Deltablazy

About RNGing with 3DS, the same techniques apply as with the DS lite except that I need to launch the game 8 seconds before the indicated time instead of 1 second, am I correct?

Also, the 3DS clock doesn't have a second hand, so you'll have to keep track of the seconds through external means like a stopwatch. Otherwise, it's pretty much the same.

Deltablazy · Jun 29th, 2012, 2:26:39 PM

Ok, I hit a dead end. I'm trying to RNG a shiny rotom through breeding.

My results are:
http://puu.sh/EBa0
http://puu.sh/EBaA

I'm using a flawed rotom and a flawless ditto, no items. Chattering once after loading the game (and bringing up the menu immediately) has given me several times a relaxed rotom (frame 56 imo), so chattering 28 times should give me the desired pokemon. However, I've been receiving a bashful one (possibly frame 72), the next bashful nature is at frame 112.

I am currently trying to find out the results from chattering 39 times, but what am I doing wrong?

**voodoo pimp** · Jun 29th, 2012, 2:36:46 PM

Most likely you're hitting the wrong Timer0. It happens to everyone, there's nothing you can do but try again and make sure to be consistent with your button presses (i.e. press A at the same time during the second every time).

Too Funk to Druck · Jun 29th, 2012, 2:41:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Deltablazy

About RNGing with 3DS, the same techniques apply as with the DS lite except that I need to launch the game 8 seconds before the indicated time instead of 1 second, am I correct?

Yes, and you also need a way to keep track of seconds since there's no second reading on the 3DS.

Deltablazy · Jun 29th, 2012, 2:52:23 PM

Success!

Thanks for the help, I'm using an old DS lite and the L/R buttons dont always work, I guess they were being recorded as pressed.

Nightmare · Jun 29th, 2012, 9:57:05 PM

Want to switch games (from White to Black)

How do I save my old game's information when I RNG the other game on the DS without having to go through the calibration process again for the old game?

-James

Cereza · Jun 29th, 2012, 10:05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Nightmare

Want to switch games (from White to Black)

How do I save my old game's information when I RNG the other game on the DS without having to go through the calibration process again for the old game?

-James

I just write them down on a piece of paper .-. But if you're not like me, then you can use Reporter 9.96 which includes a profile manager :)

Iskola75 · Jul 1st, 2012, 4:19:46 PM

Im currently trying to breed a flawless IV Deino. I don't have my SID yet so I only care about IVs. Its parents are a Ditto with 31/x/31/31/31/31 Ivs, and a Japanese Modest male Deino with an Everstone and x/x/31/x/x/31 Ivs. I tried 4 different times but none of them worked. I tried clicking the International/Everstone/Ditto buttons in different combinations but didn't see difference between the IVs. This is my first time doing eggs, Im not sure if the Min/Max Vframe and VCount are supposed to be the same or not. I saved in front of the old guy, started the game a second before the time, only pressed A, didn't turn the C gear on, and I talked to him right when the menu came up.

Search: http://i45.tinypic.com/e16tk3.png

Slashmolder · Jul 1st, 2012, 5:43:25 PM

All of the frames you saw require some sort of PIDRNG advancement. Get a Chatot (or optimally two) in your party and use them to advance from your starting frame to your actual PID frame. NPCs do mess with the PIDRNG so you will have to probably try a few times to figure out how many chatters you actually have to listen to.

l3LUExPICHU · Jul 3rd, 2012, 1:30:38 AM

SOME 1 PLEASE HELP ME!!!! i have been wanting to play competitavily for a while now but have always never tryed cuz i dont know rng abuse.to make things wors i have a 3ds AND dsi only. i cant find a rng abuse tutorial that doesnt confuse me by the 3rd or 4th sentence. if any1 knows a link to a rng abuse tutorial to pkm bw on dsi or 3ds please giv me it.

**voodoo pimp** · Jul 3rd, 2012, 1:43:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat l3LUExPICHU

SOME 1 PLEASE HELP ME!!!! i have been wanting to play competitavily for a while now but have always never tryed cuz i dont know rng abuse.to make things wors i have a 3ds AND dsi only. i cant find a rng abuse tutorial that doesnt confuse me by the 3rd or 4th sentence. if any1 knows a link to a rng abuse tutorial to pkm bw on dsi or 3ds please giv me it.

This guide seems to be pretty popular. And as that guide says, DSi/3DS RNG is almost exactly the same as doing it on a DS Lite, so don't worry about that.

TwilightBlade · Jul 3rd, 2012, 1:43:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat l3LUExPICHU

SOME 1 PLEASE HELP ME!!!! i have been wanting to play competitavily for a while now but have always never tryed cuz i dont know rng abuse.to make things wors i have a 3ds AND dsi only. i cant find a rng abuse tutorial that doesnt confuse me by the 3rd or 4th sentence. if any1 knows a link to a rng abuse tutorial to pkm bw on dsi or 3ds please giv me it.

DSi/3DS abuse is pretty much the same as DS abuse, but have key differences.

There's Bearsfan's video guide. Link here

There's alsooo ProjectTitan313's guide, which looks good for beginners. Link here

I wrote an RNG abuse guide that seems to be pretty effective in teaching beginners. Link here

Hope any of these guides help.

Pokerealm · Jul 3rd, 2012, 11:13:41 AM

Just a quick question, can't seem to find an answer.
Is RNGing for shinies possible yet in B/W2? Not sure if they use the exact same method for PIDs as B/W. If so, I suppose everything else would work the same?

Thanks in advance~

Hozu · Jul 3rd, 2012, 12:04:45 PM

To the end user RNG abuse is the same except there are more Timer0s to worry about.

oldman · Jul 3rd, 2012, 4:40:50 PM

Hi trying to find ds parameters on gamecart for black 2 via my dslite
so far in game only beat first gym but was able to infa-red trade to black 1 gamecart
i traded six pokes over but struggling to find ds parameters for any of them
I'm using rng reporter 9.96 alpha 12
I think I've just realised that soft setted rather that a hard set. but I have noticed two new? Boxes to tick one is just search min/max gstat and one box says soft set. So when finding my ds parameters should I hard set at start of new minute and do I need to tick those new boxes? Thanks in advance

tyons · Jul 4th, 2012, 7:25:16 AM

sorry but where can I get the latest alpha version of RNG reporter? I can't find the link anywhere.

edit: ok I found it.

Purimpopoie · Jul 4th, 2012, 2:13:49 PM

I'm trying to RNG for Thundurus in White, but I'm stuck on RNGing the Nature. Nearly every time it comes up Bold. I know I'm starting around 740 if I just walk out and spam A, but Timid is supposed to be 28 jumps away. But instead, it nearly always comes up Bold.

Version: White
Timer0: C7F
Seed: C7ED5B5502AFBA76
Date: 10/5/12

I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to get it to not come up Bold. Does anyone have and advice, because the nature just won't seem to change (unless I miss the Timer0 but that can't be helped)

Cereza · Jul 4th, 2012, 2:22:53 PM

are you advancing the PID frames? You need to do that or you'll always get the same nature. The easiest way to do so is by hearing the recorded chatter from a chatot's summary, however, as you already saved inside the house, and if you can't do this; saving also advances the PID frame by one.

Purimpopoie · Jul 4th, 2012, 2:27:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

are you advancing the PID frames? You need to do that or you'll always get the same nature. The easiest way to do so is by hearing the recorded chatter from a chatot's summary, however, as you already saved inside the house, and if you can't do this; saving also advances the PID frame by one.

Timid is supposed to be 28 jumps away (gotta edit my previous post because I already knew that), but every time I advance 28 times with my Chatot, I get Bold. With no advancement, I get Serious.

Cereza · Jul 4th, 2012, 2:42:40 PM

have you tried doing one more chatot every time you tried? That's how I got about getting mine, if you're not going for a shiny one you'll get it in no time.

Kiebin · Jul 4th, 2012, 2:55:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Purimpopoie

I'm trying to RNG for Thundurus in White, but I'm stuck on RNGing the Nature. Nearly every time it comes up Bold. I know I'm starting around 740 if I just walk out and spam A, but Timid is supposed to be 28 jumps away. But instead, it nearly always comes up Bold.

Version: White
Timer0: C7F
Seed: C7ED5B5502AFBA76
Date: 10/5/12

I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to get it to not come up Bold. Does anyone have and advice, because the nature just won't seem to change (unless I miss the Timer0 but that can't be helped)

Are you dead certain you are starting at 740? PID%6'd it and all?

Purimpopoie · Jul 4th, 2012, 2:57:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kiebin

Are you dead certain you are starting at 740? PID%6'd it and all?

The only Serious -Alert to Sounds combination that comes up [in the 550-750 range talked about on the onsite guide] on RNG Reporter 9.95 is at 740.

Kiebin · Jul 4th, 2012, 3:05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Purimpopoie

The only Serious -Alert to Sounds combination that comes up [in the 550-750 range talked about on the onsite guide] on RNG Reporter 9.95 is at 740.

Okay, answer these questions please:

Are you RNGing in Summer? (If yes, your range kan be under the 550 mark as well, I'm speaking from my own experience)

What is your seed?

I'll PID%6 from 400-1000 for you, just to be safe, 9.95 is bugged so I'll do it the old fashioned way.

Purimpopoie · Jul 4th, 2012, 3:13:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kiebin

Okay, answer these questions please:

Are you RNGing in Summer? (If yes, your range kan be under the 550 mark as well, I'm speaking from my own experience)

What is your seed?

I'll PID%6 from 400-1000 for you, just to be safe, 9.95 is bugged so I'll do it the old fashioned way.

Version: White
Timer0: C7F
Seed: C7ED5B5502AFBA76
Date: 10/5/12 (So yeah, Summer)

It's bugged? That might explain why it's all bonkers...

Kiebin · Jul 4th, 2012, 3:25:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Purimpopoie

Version: White
Timer0: C7F
Seed: C7ED5B5502AFBA76
Date: 10/5/12 (So yeah, Summer)

It's bugged? That might explain why it's all bonkers...

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're at frame 457. The reason why I think this is that I pulled your seed through Researcher, and this is what came out:

423: Serious + Alert to Sounds (seems extremely low.)
457: Serious + Alert to Sounds
516: Serious + Likes to Thrash About (RNG Reporter says Alert to Sounds)

Which kind of sucks for you, because the first Timid frame is on 531..

Jun 29th, 2012, 2:36:46 PM	#14278
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,977	Most likely you're hitting the wrong Timer0. It happens to everyone, there's nothing you can do but try again and make sure to be consistent with your button presses (i.e. press A at the same time during the second every time). __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Jun 29th, 2012, 9:57:05 PM	#14281
Nightmare Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 285 Fremont, CA	Want to switch games (from White to Black) How do I save my old game's information when I RNG the other game on the DS without having to go through the calibration process again for the old game? -James __________________

Jul 1st, 2012, 5:43:25 PM	#14284
Slashmolder 'Ello Governor Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 272	All of the frames you saw require some sort of PIDRNG advancement. Get a Chatot (or optimally two) in your party and use them to advance from your starting frame to your actual PID frame. NPCs do mess with the PIDRNG so you will have to probably try a few times to figure out how many chatters you actually have to listen to. __________________ My Pokécheck Pokémon <~Nexus> Mat's seen things that would make you wake up screaming in the middle of the night NO MORE RNG NO MORE RNG <CDXCIV> kittens is not a Pokemon.

Jul 3rd, 2012, 1:30:38 AM	#14285
l3LUExPICHU Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3 Pallet Town	SOME 1 PLEASE HELP ME!!!! i have been wanting to play competitavily for a while now but have always never tryed cuz i dont know rng abuse.to make things wors i have a 3ds AND dsi only. i cant find a rng abuse tutorial that doesnt confuse me by the 3rd or 4th sentence. if any1 knows a link to a rng abuse tutorial to pkm bw on dsi or 3ds please giv me it. __________________ I choose you, Magikarp! Go Mewtwo! The foe's Mewtwo used Psychic. Magikarp Avoided the attack! Magikarp used AN AK-47 FTW!!!!!

Jul 3rd, 2012, 11:13:41 AM	#14288
Pokerealm Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 449 The Netherlands	Just a quick question, can't seem to find an answer. Is RNGing for shinies possible yet in B/W2? Not sure if they use the exact same method for PIDs as B/W. If so, I suppose everything else would work the same? Thanks in advance~ __________________

Jun 29th, 2012, 2:26:39 PM	#14277
Deltablazy Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Ok, I hit a dead end. I'm trying to RNG a shiny rotom through breeding. My results are: http://puu.sh/EBa0 http://puu.sh/EBaA I'm using a flawed rotom and a flawless ditto, no items. Chattering once after loading the game (and bringing up the menu immediately) has given me several times a relaxed rotom (frame 56 imo), so chattering 28 times should give me the desired pokemon. However, I've been receiving a bashful one (possibly frame 72), the next bashful nature is at frame 112. I am currently trying to find out the results from chattering 39 times, but what am I doing wrong?

Jun 29th, 2012, 2:52:23 PM	#14280
Deltablazy Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Success! Thanks for the help, I'm using an old DS lite and the L/R buttons dont always work, I guess they were being recorded as pressed.

Jul 1st, 2012, 4:19:46 PM	#14283
Iskola75 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 17	Im currently trying to breed a flawless IV Deino. I don't have my SID yet so I only care about IVs. Its parents are a Ditto with 31/x/31/31/31/31 Ivs, and a Japanese Modest male Deino with an Everstone and x/x/31/x/x/31 Ivs. I tried 4 different times but none of them worked. I tried clicking the International/Everstone/Ditto buttons in different combinations but didn't see difference between the IVs. This is my first time doing eggs, Im not sure if the Min/Max Vframe and VCount are supposed to be the same or not. I saved in front of the old guy, started the game a second before the time, only pressed A, didn't turn the C gear on, and I talked to him right when the menu came up. Search: http://i45.tinypic.com/e16tk3.png

Jul 3rd, 2012, 12:04:45 PM	#14289
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,190 Orre	To the end user RNG abuse is the same except there are more Timer0s to worry about. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Jul 3rd, 2012, 4:40:50 PM	#14290
oldman Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 54 Liverpool	Hi trying to find ds parameters on gamecart for black 2 via my dslite so far in game only beat first gym but was able to infa-red trade to black 1 gamecart i traded six pokes over but struggling to find ds parameters for any of them I'm using rng reporter 9.96 alpha 12 I think I've just realised that soft setted rather that a hard set. but I have noticed two new? Boxes to tick one is just search min/max gstat and one box says soft set. So when finding my ds parameters should I hard set at start of new minute and do I need to tick those new boxes? Thanks in advance Last edited by oldman; Jul 4th, 2012 at 3:08:28 AM. Reason: Messed up parameters?

Jul 4th, 2012, 7:25:16 AM	#14291
tyons Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 116	sorry but where can I get the latest alpha version of RNG reporter? I can't find the link anywhere. edit: ok I found it. Last edited by tyons; Jul 4th, 2012 at 11:05:45 AM.

Jul 4th, 2012, 2:13:49 PM	#14292
Purimpopoie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 346	I'm trying to RNG for Thundurus in White, but I'm stuck on RNGing the Nature. Nearly every time it comes up Bold. I know I'm starting around 740 if I just walk out and spam A, but Timid is supposed to be 28 jumps away. But instead, it nearly always comes up Bold. Version: White Timer0: C7F Seed: C7ED5B5502AFBA76 Date: 10/5/12 I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to get it to not come up Bold. Does anyone have and advice, because the nature just won't seem to change (unless I miss the Timer0 but that can't be helped) Last edited by Purimpopoie; Jul 4th, 2012 at 2:28:25 PM. Reason: wrong number

Jul 4th, 2012, 2:22:53 PM	#14293
Cereza Tastes Like Candy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,153 Long Island	are you advancing the PID frames? You need to do that or you'll always get the same nature. The easiest way to do so is by hearing the recorded chatter from a chatot's summary, however, as you already saved inside the house, and if you can't do this; saving also advances the PID frame by one. __________________ The flower that blooms in adversity is the rarest and most beautiful of all.

Jul 4th, 2012, 2:42:40 PM	#14295
Cereza Tastes Like Candy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,153 Long Island	have you tried doing one more chatot every time you tried? That's how I got about getting mine, if you're not going for a shiny one you'll get it in no time. __________________ The flower that blooms in adversity is the rarest and most beautiful of all.