Illegal Move Abil/Combo: Espeon

Kaphotics · Mar 1st, 2011, 11:39:43 PM

DW Ability: Magic Mirror
Move: Baton Pass

All DW Espeons are Male, and cannot pass DW abilities to offspring. Baton Pass is a breeding only move.

illegal :P

polelover44 · Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:58:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Bulbapedia

From Generation V, female Pokémon with hidden abilities have a 40% chance of passing on the hidden ability to their offspring. Ditto count as male for this purpose.

so no. It's legal.

EDIT: Unless I'm misinterpreting something here?

***Haunter***** · Mar 2nd, 2011, 1:17:01 PM

If all the released Espeon are male, then Ditto can't count as male -_- That unless GF decided to troll us again allowing homsexual breeding, lol.

**Seven Deadly Sins** · Mar 2nd, 2011, 1:27:16 PM

Indeed, Baton Pass Dream World Espeon is illegal.

For the record, so is Baton Pass Dream World Blaziken, for the same reason.

**Stellar** · Mar 2nd, 2011, 1:47:48 PM

Only females can pass on the Dream World ability. If Ditto is always male then it can never pass on a Dream World ability.

Not to mention that Ditto isn't even released, so that point is moot.

**PK Gaming** · Mar 2nd, 2011, 2:25:59 PM

All of the event starters:

Blaziken / Sceptile / Swampert
Charizard / Venusaur / Blastoise
Infernape / Empoleon / Torterra

Cannot use egg moves or gen IV only moves. (this needs to be fixed)
Likewise Togekiss, Mamoswine and Toxicroak cannot use egg moves or gen IV only moves. The former 2 cannot use prevolution moves either.

There seems to be technical difficulties in implementing the ability / move ban though.

j99ubers · Mar 2nd, 2011, 3:42:50 PM

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...30&postcount=1

At the bottom of this page it says that some Eevee were released as well, and Baton Pass isnt an egg move IIRC, its a pre-evo move so I think it should be legal in fact.

**Stellar** · Mar 2nd, 2011, 3:43:35 PM

No Eevee were released. That is incorrect.

Chou Toshio · Mar 2nd, 2011, 5:59:52 PM

For the record, even if PO hasn't been updated, you can go to any mod to stop a battle that has an illegal Pokemon (giving you the win). If the opponent bitches enough about being forced to lose, they can even kick your opponent for you :D

I go to the TheFourthChaser for all my noob-kicking needs.

masterbreeder · Jul 12th, 2012, 8:47:42 PM

As of Black Version 2 and White Version 2, Eevee with their Hidden Ability are available in-game (albeit rarely), so Eevee evolutions may now legally know Egg Moves

**TheMantyke** · Jul 12th, 2012, 8:50:30 PM

...Female Eevees with their hidden ability have been out since May of 2011. PO has been updated with their arrival for ages now; there isn't a problem or a reason to necrobump.

Mar 1st, 2011, 11:39:43 PM	#1
Kaphotics Remodeling Kitchens Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 758 Berkeley, CA	Illegal Move Abil/Combo: Espeon DW Ability: Magic Mirror Move: Baton Pass All DW Espeons are Male, and cannot pass DW abilities to offspring. Baton Pass is a breeding only move. illegal :P

Mar 2nd, 2011, 1:27:16 PM	#4
Seven Deadly Sins :D Moderator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,175	Indeed, Baton Pass Dream World Espeon is illegal. For the record, so is Baton Pass Dream World Blaziken, for the same reason. __________________

Mar 2nd, 2011, 2:25:59 PM	#6
PK Gaming Quiet Thunder God Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,527 Izanagi	All of the event starters: Blaziken / Sceptile / Swampert Charizard / Venusaur / Blastoise Infernape / Empoleon / Torterra Cannot use egg moves or gen IV only moves. (this needs to be fixed) Likewise Togekiss, Mamoswine and Toxicroak cannot use egg moves or gen IV only moves. The former 2 cannot use prevolution moves either. There seems to be technical difficulties in implementing the ability / move ban though. __________________

Mar 2nd, 2011, 5:59:52 PM	#9
Chou Toshio Hmmm... A name for the plan... Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,946 Sea Forest	For the record, even if PO hasn't been updated, you can go to any mod to stop a battle that has an illegal Pokemon (giving you the win). If the opponent bitches enough about being forced to lose, they can even kick your opponent for you :D I go to the TheFourthChaser for all my noob-kicking needs. __________________ "Hmmm... a name for this plan..."

Jul 12th, 2012, 8:50:30 PM	#11
TheMantyke Relentless Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,173 Atlanta, GA	...Female Eevees with their hidden ability have been out since May of 2011. PO has been updated with their arrival for ages now; there isn't a problem or a reason to necrobump. __________________

Mar 2nd, 2011, 1:47:48 PM	#5
Stellar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,264	Only females can pass on the Dream World ability. If Ditto is always male then it can never pass on a Dream World ability. Not to mention that Ditto isn't even released, so that point is moot.

Mar 2nd, 2011, 3:42:50 PM	#7
j99ubers Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 242	http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...30&postcount=1 At the bottom of this page it says that some Eevee were released as well, and Baton Pass isnt an egg move IIRC, its a pre-evo move so I think it should be legal in fact.

Mar 2nd, 2011, 3:43:35 PM	#8
Stellar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,264	No Eevee were released. That is incorrect.

Jul 12th, 2012, 8:47:42 PM	#10
masterbreeder Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 45 California, US	As of Black Version 2 and White Version 2, Eevee with their Hidden Ability are available in-game (albeit rarely), so Eevee evolutions may now legally know Egg Moves