The Soon To be awesome Team

Dukewarrior13 · Jul 17th, 2012, 9:36:14 AM

Hey everybody i decided to skip the team building part and get down to business of time's sake. I like this team, I really do, its just that it is does its job pretty averagely (that is a real word right?). I want a team that is easy to use and is balanced offensive. So enough of that, lets get down to business.

The Sets

Physical Sweeper
Nature: Jolly
128 Hp/ 252 Att/ 128 Spe
Item: Chople Berry
Ability: Defiant

Brick Break
Substitute
Sword Dance
Sucker Punch

I sword dance behind the sub until it breaks. Then I sucker punch my way to victory. I use brick break for those pesky steel types. Sometimes however, I cant pull of a sub so it renders him useless. That being said, he is still one of my favorite pokemon to use despite being a bit unreliable.

Bulky Special Sweeper
Nature: Modest
170 Def/ 170 SpA/ 170 SpD
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Levitate

Hydro Pump
Thunderbolt
Volt Switch
Hidden Power Fire

One of the most important pokemon of my team is Rotom-W. He take care of Gliscor and Tyranitar with Hydro Pump. Skarmory and Tentacruel with Thunderbolt. Also it takes care of Scizor, Metagross and Ferrothorn with hp Fire. My only complaint with him is kinda how great he is...There is a lot resting on his shoulders, if he is takin out than my whole team will slowly fall too.

Offensive Wish Supporter
Nature: Modest
170 Def/ 170 SpA/ 170 SpD
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Levitate

Calm Mind
Wish
Dragon Pulse
Energy Ball

I chose Latias over her brother because she is more defensive and more importantly, she has wish. I am unsure of latias's moveset. She has a lot of support moves such as refresh, wish, healing wish, recover and roar but she also has the potential to become a special sweeper. Cant she be both? Help?

Bulky Physical Sweeper
Nature: Careful
128 Hp/ 252 Att/ 128 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Guts

Drain Punch
Mach Punch
Bulk Up
Stone Edge

Conkeldurr is the best bulky phyiscal sweeper in my eyes. He has a priority move, A recovery move and bulk up. Not to mention it can take advatage of toxic spikes because of guts. (This happens fairly often). He can preform as a revenge killer too.

Defensive Supporter
Nature: Jolly
170 Hp/ 170 Def/ 170 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Battle Armor

Rapid Spin
X-Scissor
Stealth Rock
Toxic

WHAT???? A NU POKEMON IS IN OU???? Actually yeah, I desperatly needed rapin spinner and entry hazards so I reached deep in the NU and pulled out Armaldo. He may not have the best stats but he does his job fairly well. My only complaint is his speed.

Lead
Nature: Impish
4 Hp/252 Att/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate

U-Turn
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Hammer Arm

He is the ideal lead. He can outspeed almost the whole tier and he can switch out if necessary. If there is no need for him to switch then he can let rip a volley of high powered coverage moves.

Well that is my team! Please post your ideas about using different ev spreads, movesets or pokemon because i know you have your opinion!

Ninetale3 · Jul 17th, 2012, 10:38:16 AM

Hey there

Some changes to bisharp are to give it leftovers since you have two pokemon that can switch in to fighting type moves. Also change sucker punch to night slash for a reliable stab at the cost of priority as well as not becoming total setup fodder.

Now on to latias. You need to choose between calm mind or wish support as blending both together does not work on latias. One hand gives a more offensive presence for the special side where the other would help when your team is getting worn down.

That's all I can say since the team synergy is good.

Novaray · Jul 17th, 2012, 10:46:17 AM

Hi DukeWarrior13

Interesting team you have here, I really appreciate your use of mons not commonly seen in OU such as Bisharp and Armaldo. Now I have some suggestions for your team. First i would replace Chople Berry with Life Orb on Bisharp. In theory, Chople Berry would allow you to live a Fighting-type attack, but due to a combination of Bisharp's 4x weakness to fighting, average defenses, and the fact that most fighting attacks in OU are very powerful (Terrakion/Lucario's Close Combat, Scizor's Superpower, etc.) it's unlikely that Bisharp would survive even with the resist berry. Life Orb is a better option to increase the damage output of your attacks, increasing the likelihood of a sweep.

Now for Latias, I suggest replacing Energy Ball with Roar. Energy Ball is very weak without STAB to back it up and also provides poor coverage. Roar is more beneficial as Latias is performing a supporter role by removing your opponent's boosts and racking up some hazard damage. Latias still can act as a Calm Mind sweeper on occasion with only Dragon Pulse as her attack due to the fact that Dragon-type has great coverage and you have Bisharp and Conkeldurr to handle opposing Steels. Latias' EV spread should be changed to 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 with a Timid nature in order to speed tie other with Lati@s as well as outspeeding the many Pokemon with base 108 and 100 speed.

Now for some changes in your Pokemon's EV spreads. I recommend changing Armaldo's EV spread to 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef with an Impish nature. There's not much benefit to investing in his speed as even with investment, his poor base 45 speed will still leave him being outsped by most threats in OU. A bulkier spread is more advantageous in allowing you to wall physical attackers and get up Stealth Rock or spin. Now for Rotom-W I suggest changing your current EV spread to one of 112 HP / 252 SAtk / 140 Spd with a Modest nature. This spread lets you outrun all types of Tyranitar and max speed Adamant Breloom while greatly increasing damage output. Lastly, it's probably just a typo but you have 4 too many EVs on Landorus so remove the 4 HP EVs. Also Landorus should have a Jolly nature to take advantage of his unique speed tier.

Hope I helped and good luck with your team!

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Dukewarrior13 · Jul 17th, 2012, 11:02:20 AM

Thank you guys fo your help! I did make some changes and made my latias more supportive. i also changed my Rotom-W's ev spread. I cant wait to test it out.

Now all i need to do is login in.......

Jul 17th, 2012, 9:36:14 AM	#1
Dukewarrior13 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 40	The Soon To be awesome Team Hey everybody i decided to skip the team building part and get down to business of time's sake. I like this team, I really do, its just that it is does its job pretty averagely (that is a real word right?). I want a team that is easy to use and is balanced offensive. So enough of that, lets get down to business. The Sets Physical Sweeper Nature: Jolly 128 Hp/ 252 Att/ 128 Spe Item: Chople Berry Ability: Defiant Brick Break Substitute Sword Dance Sucker Punch I sword dance behind the sub until it breaks. Then I sucker punch my way to victory. I use brick break for those pesky steel types. Sometimes however, I cant pull of a sub so it renders him useless. That being said, he is still one of my favorite pokemon to use despite being a bit unreliable. Bulky Special Sweeper Nature: Modest 170 Def/ 170 SpA/ 170 SpD Item: Leftovers Ability: Levitate Hydro Pump Thunderbolt Volt Switch Hidden Power Fire One of the most important pokemon of my team is Rotom-W. He take care of Gliscor and Tyranitar with Hydro Pump. Skarmory and Tentacruel with Thunderbolt. Also it takes care of Scizor, Metagross and Ferrothorn with hp Fire. My only complaint with him is kinda how great he is...There is a lot resting on his shoulders, if he is takin out than my whole team will slowly fall too. Offensive Wish Supporter Nature: Modest 170 Def/ 170 SpA/ 170 SpD Item: Leftovers Ability: Levitate Calm Mind Wish Dragon Pulse Energy Ball I chose Latias over her brother because she is more defensive and more importantly, she has wish. I am unsure of latias's moveset. She has a lot of support moves such as refresh, wish, healing wish, recover and roar but she also has the potential to become a special sweeper. Cant she be both? Help? Bulky Physical Sweeper Nature: Careful 128 Hp/ 252 Att/ 128 Spe Item: Leftovers Ability: Guts Drain Punch Mach Punch Bulk Up Stone Edge Conkeldurr is the best bulky phyiscal sweeper in my eyes. He has a priority move, A recovery move and bulk up. Not to mention it can take advatage of toxic spikes because of guts. (This happens fairly often). He can preform as a revenge killer too. Defensive Supporter Nature: Jolly 170 Hp/ 170 Def/ 170 Spe Item: Leftovers Ability: Battle Armor Rapid Spin X-Scissor Stealth Rock Toxic WHAT???? A NU POKEMON IS IN OU???? Actually yeah, I desperatly needed rapin spinner and entry hazards so I reached deep in the NU and pulled out Armaldo. He may not have the best stats but he does his job fairly well. My only complaint is his speed. Lead Nature: Impish 4 Hp/252 Att/4 Def/252 Spe Item: Choice Scarf Ability: Levitate U-Turn Earthquake Stone Edge Hammer Arm He is the ideal lead. He can outspeed almost the whole tier and he can switch out if necessary. If there is no need for him to switch then he can let rip a volley of high powered coverage moves. Well that is my team! Please post your ideas about using different ev spreads, movesets or pokemon because i know you have your opinion! __________________ The Dark Knight Sweeper

Jul 17th, 2012, 10:46:17 AM	#3
Novaray i am happy Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,136 that's just the saddest lie Mentor	Hi DukeWarrior13 Interesting team you have here, I really appreciate your use of mons not commonly seen in OU such as Bisharp and Armaldo. Now I have some suggestions for your team. First i would replace Chople Berry with Life Orb on Bisharp. In theory, Chople Berry would allow you to live a Fighting-type attack, but due to a combination of Bisharp's 4x weakness to fighting, average defenses, and the fact that most fighting attacks in OU are very powerful (Terrakion/Lucario's Close Combat, Scizor's Superpower, etc.) it's unlikely that Bisharp would survive even with the resist berry. Life Orb is a better option to increase the damage output of your attacks, increasing the likelihood of a sweep. Now for Latias, I suggest replacing Energy Ball with Roar. Energy Ball is very weak without STAB to back it up and also provides poor coverage. Roar is more beneficial as Latias is performing a supporter role by removing your opponent's boosts and racking up some hazard damage. Latias still can act as a Calm Mind sweeper on occasion with only Dragon Pulse as her attack due to the fact that Dragon-type has great coverage and you have Bisharp and Conkeldurr to handle opposing Steels. Latias' EV spread should be changed to 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 with a Timid nature in order to speed tie other with Lati@s as well as outspeeding the many Pokemon with base 108 and 100 speed. Now for some changes in your Pokemon's EV spreads. I recommend changing Armaldo's EV spread to 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef with an Impish nature. There's not much benefit to investing in his speed as even with investment, his poor base 45 speed will still leave him being outsped by most threats in OU. A bulkier spread is more advantageous in allowing you to wall physical attackers and get up Stealth Rock or spin. Now for Rotom-W I suggest changing your current EV spread to one of 112 HP / 252 SAtk / 140 Spd with a Modest nature. This spread lets you outrun all types of Tyranitar and max speed Adamant Breloom while greatly increasing damage output. Lastly, it's probably just a typo but you have 4 too many EVs on Landorus so remove the 4 HP EVs. Also Landorus should have a Jolly nature to take advantage of his unique speed tier. Hope I helped and good luck with your team! Set: ... Latias (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) -Calm Mind -Wish -Dragon Pulse -Roar tl;dr ... Chople Berry on Bisharp ----> Life Orb Energy Ball on Latias ----> Roar Latias' EV spread ----> 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd with Timid nature Armaldo's EV spread ----> 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef with Impish nature Rotom-W's EV spread ----> 112 HP / 252 SAtk / 140 Spd with Modest nature Remove 4 HP EVs on Landorus Impish nature on Landorus ----> Jolly nature __________________ island in the sun Last edited by Novaray; Jul 17th, 2012 at 11:06:24 AM.

Jul 17th, 2012, 11:02:20 AM	#4
Dukewarrior13 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 40	Thank you guys fo your help! I did make some changes and made my latias more supportive. i also changed my Rotom-W's ev spread. I cant wait to test it out. Now all i need to do is login in....... __________________ The Dark Knight Sweeper

Jul 17th, 2012, 10:38:16 AM	#2
Ninetale3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 122 Minnesota	Hey there Some changes to bisharp are to give it leftovers since you have two pokemon that can switch in to fighting type moves. Also change sucker punch to night slash for a reliable stab at the cost of priority as well as not becoming total setup fodder. Now on to latias. You need to choose between calm mind or wish support as blending both together does not work on latias. One hand gives a more offensive presence for the special side where the other would help when your team is getting worn down. That's all I can say since the team synergy is good.