Pokemon Showdown! Gym and Elite 4!

HardyHoundoom · Jul 17th, 2012, 4:32:19 PM

MAJOR EDIT: If you would like for there to be a league on PokemonShowdown!
Reply:Yes!
If not, Reply : NO![/CENTER]

Now, I know that everybody assumes that Gyms are dumb and lame, but I feel that this is a bit different. It is more focused on tiers.
This system is a challenge because to win, you must be sufficient in almost every tier. It will be a DIFFICULT challenge. Let's remember what pokemon is about, FUN!
So here is how the gyms will be a-going!

CHALLENGING A LEADER.
1. Ask the leader for a battle.
2. THEY decide when the battle comences.
3. Be respectful. Must use same tier as leader.
4. If you lose, you lose, no challenge for 3 days. max 5
5.If you win, move on to the next leader and repeat the rules.
6. NO making biased team choices due to the monotype teams!!

WAYS OF BECOMING A GYM LEADER.
1. Be nominated by Sinister Act.
2. Beat current Leaders/Elite Four.
R. Have at least 1750 on the ladders.

BEING A GYM LEADER.
1. Must accept all challenges from members.
2. Make sure they have beaten below members.
3. Must make a mono-type team for Gym use.
4. Fairly battle. No being biased Pokemon allowed.
5. After player wins, give them the authority to advance on.
6. Report the Victory or Lose to Sinister Act.
e. When timing a battle, be reasonable.

Now, I was thinking that the Gyms would be tier and Bi-Type based.
Leaders can sign up in a reply to this thread.

[CENTER]THE GYMS!
GYM 1 - RU (%Closet)
GYM 2 - NU (DinoDan)
GYM 3 - UU (Sinister Act)
GYM 4 - OU
GYM 5 - WATER (Gym Leader Juan)
GYM 6 - PSYCHIC (dontpoop)
GYM 7 - STEEL
GYM 8 - BUG
(monotype=ou)

Congrats Elected Leaders!

THE BI-TYPE ELITE FOUR!
Leader 1 - Fire/Dragon
Leader 2 - Psychic/Fighting
Leader 3 - Ghost / Steel (Shauntal)
Leader 4 - Little Cup Open

(Now, I added Little Cup, to ensure that you are ready. That you can do anything.)

THE CHAMPION OF POKEMON SHOWDOWN!

AQUAAA!!
OU.

NEEDED: OU, WATER,PSYCHIC, STEEL, and BUG Gym Leaders.
Leaders 1,2 and 4 are needed as well.

NOTES:
Follow all smogon bans, tiers, hacks, and respect rules apply. Sec. 1 Art. 6
MUST have secret passwords to advance to the next leader. (Closet)

EDIT: new leader types/tiers
EDIT2: grammar
EDIT3: ELITE 4 typing mixup

Iminyourcloset · Jul 17th, 2012, 4:56:55 PM

Can I just say something? I do totally like this, but is there anyway we can have some weaker gyms, or something? It seems to me you have to be a pro at the start, and I think a gym league should be viable for really anyone. But, this sounds really awesome :D!
I'd like to become a gym leader, but I suck in everything :P
EDIT: I Love RU, but I suck in everything else*

Rami512 · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:21:12 PM

But why 4 gyms? Do it with 8 gyms like in the anime/games...
Apart from the number of gyms, I think it's a great idea.

HardyHoundoom · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:27:20 PM

Thanks for your support and input. I have an idea that puts all of your together! We make you gym leader, and since you said you're not good, it's not as hard. And you said your self you want to be one!

Shauntal · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:28:50 PM

I ALREADY MADE THIS TOPIC!!! WHY DONT YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE THREADS!!! DTC ALREADY SAID NO TO THIS IDEA ANYWAY!

HardyHoundoom · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:29:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Rami512

But why 4 gyms? Do it with 8 gyms like in the anime/games...
Apart from the number of gyms, I think it's a great idea.

The only problem is, are we gonna have enough leaders?
If we do, and people still want to be leaders, we will ad 4 more.
If you want to be a leader message Sinister Act (me) and I'll try you out.

Shauntal · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:32:37 PM

Oh, and if this is approved I WILL BE THE GHOST ONE!

HardyHoundoom · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:33:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Shauntal

I ALREADY MADE THIS TOPIC!!! WHY DONT YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE THREADS!!! DTC ALREADY SAID NO TO THIS IDEA ANYWAY!

Sir, please listen. I have talked to an ADMIN about this and I am getting public
attention before I get supported by smogon or Pokemon Showdown!.
I have an admin, saying this is OK.
Sorry if this offends anyone but.
Administrator > Staff
EDIT: You can be ghost :)

Shauntal · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:35:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat HardyHoundoom

Sir, please listen. I have talked to an ADMIN about this and I am getting public
attention before I get supported by smogon or Pokemon Showdown!.
I have an admin, saying this is OK.
Sorry if this offends anyone but.
Administrator > Staff

I'm a girl... shauntal as a username and my avatar being shauntal.... points to female... lol but anyway, so this is getting implemented on pokemon showdown? and if it is how do i go about being the ghost type elite four?

Iminyourcloset · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:37:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat HardyHoundoom

Thanks for your support and input. I have an idea that puts all of your together! We make you gym leader, and since you said you're not good, it's not as hard. And you said your self you want to be one!

Wow. I appreciate that, plus, don't we also encorporate more gyms? Like, have four "easier Gyms", and four "harder" gyms. oh, and Also, I want to add a little input:
A) the 2000 limit, is TOO DAMN HIGH! that's like, the 1% population of PS! :p Also, you could be able to find more gym leaders!
B) Don't make the gyms that different in difficulty, because that might screw some people up.
And C), if you make me a gym leader, I'd like to be RU :D
and, btw, thanks for the offer, and I would gladly ACCEPT!

HardyHoundoom · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:38:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Shauntal

I'm a girl... shauntal as a username and my avatar being shauntal.... points to female... lol but anyway, so this is getting implemented on pokemon showdown? and if it is how do i go about being the ghost type elite four?

Sorry Ma'am.
Yes Pokemon Showdown!.
Make a strong Ghost team of your teir. (OP)
Be ready when a challenger reaches your level.
It hasn't opened yet, though, so lay low for a while. lol

Shauntal · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:42:43 PM

lol ma'am that makes me feel old.... im only 17 lol

Iminyourcloset · Jul 17th, 2012, 5:48:07 PM

Hm... I feel like we need to keep eight gyms. if we lower the qualifications a bit, by not just basing it on ranking, (due to the fact the ladder is messed up) and judge a person's qualifications by a combonation of rank, team, and just general skill.

Also, can you change me to RU, please? and possibly, forget the type restrictions. You're already restricting by tier, so no need for the typings.

And I'd also like to add, I suggest on PS!, we create passwords (don't say them on here,) so that people can pass on to the next gym/E4. I feel like this definitely a good start, and has some parts complete, but it's gonna have to be edited and made pretty damn perfect >:D

EDIT: Me and HardyHoundoom (Sinister Act) have just come up with an awesome Idea: Four TIER gyms,a nd Four TYPING gyms!!!

dinosaurdan · Jul 17th, 2012, 6:04:12 PM

Pretty cool, If I could stand using dark types in NU, I would apply...But its already taken....
EDIT: It's open! I'll apply then for NU

Snowflakes · Jul 17th, 2012, 6:16:38 PM

So instead of NUgget Bridge and Lost Caves for seperate tier this is one big thing? sounds good of course NUgget Bridge and Lost Caves etc will run but this is for the battlers who try to literally be the best there is be the Pokemon Master :p sounds good.

HardyHoundoom · Jul 17th, 2012, 8:14:36 PM

Would you participate in a PS League? Yes/No

Now, I know that everybody assumes that Gyms are dumb and lame, but I feel that this is a bit different. It is more focused on tiers.
This system is a challenge because to win, you must be sufficient in almost every tier. It will be a DIFFICULT challenge. Let's remember what pokemon is about, FUN!
So here is how the gyms will be a-going!

CHALLENGING A LEADER.
1. Ask the leader for a battle.
2. THEY decide when the battle comences.
3. Be respectful. Must use same tier as leader.
4. If you lose, you lose, no challenge for 3 days. max 5
5.If you win, move on to the next leader and repeat the rules.
6. NO making biased team choices due to the monotype teams!!

WAYS OF BECOMING A GYM LEADER.
1. Be nominated by Sinister Act.
2. Beat current Leaders/Elite Four.
R. Have at least 1750 on the ladders.

BEING A GYM LEADER.
1. Must accept all challenges from members.
2. Make sure they have beaten below members.
3. Must make a mono-type team for Gym use.
4. Fairly battle. No being biased Pokemon allowed.
5. After player wins, give them the authority to advance on.
6. Report the Victory or Lose to Sinister Act.
e. When timing a battle, be reasonable.

Now, I was thinking that the Gyms would be tier and Bi-Type based.
Leaders can sign up in a reply to this thread.

[CENTER]THE GYMS!
GYM 1 - RU (%Closet)
GYM 2 - NU (DinoDan)
GYM 3 - UU (Sinister Act)
GYM 4 - OU
GYM 5 - WATER (Gym Leader Juan)
GYM 6 - PSYCHIC (dontpoop)
GYM 7 - STEEL
GYM 8 - BUG
(monotype=ou)

Congrats Elected Leaders!

THE BI-TYPE ELITE FOUR!
Leader 1 - Fire/Dragon
Leader 2 - Psychic/Fighting
Leader 3 - Ghost / Steel (Shauntal)
Leader 4 - Little Cup Open

(Now, I added Little Cup, to ensure that you are ready. That you can do anything.)

THE CHAMPION OF POKEMON SHOWDOWN!

AQUAAA!!
OU.

NEEDED: OU, WATER,PSYCHIC, STEEL, and BUG Gym Leaders.
Leaders 1,2 and 4 are needed as well.
NOTES:
Follow all smogon bans, tiers, hacks, and respect rules apply. Sec. 1 Art. 6
MUST have secret passwords to advance to the next leader. (Closet)

EDIT: new leader types/tiers
EDIT2: grammar
EDIT3: ELITE 4 typing mixup

danceparty · Jul 17th, 2012, 8:17:42 PM

Yes, because although there are tournaments, they don't provide the same challenge as a league does.

Iminyourcloset · Jul 17th, 2012, 8:22:47 PM

Yes, I do like leagues. I understand why some people don't appreciate them, but I do like the fun and adventure this league'll bring >:D

Snowflakes · Jul 17th, 2012, 8:28:52 PM

I'm going to vote yes but mainly because of the first 4 Gyms. I never got into monotype or anything weird like that I just like majority of the tiers so something like this IF done right would be nice.

nyttyn · Jul 17th, 2012, 8:42:06 PM

I'm going to have to vote no. Our last two attempts at a league ended in horrible failure, and I'd honestly hate to see someone put so much effort for something only for it to horribly crumble in their face.

Soarin · Jul 17th, 2012, 8:47:55 PM

No This has been attempted numerous times. And i just don't think a League would work on PS.

ShakeItUp · Jul 17th, 2012, 8:52:26 PM

Definitely no. just no. nooooo. no.
I definitely do not think that this will be successful on Smogon.

minusoneball · Jul 17th, 2012, 8:58:12 PM

I like the idea and I can become a gym leader of anything you need :)

TropiOUs · Jul 17th, 2012, 9:03:19 PM

I like how the poll goes up to 154.17%.

I voted no because I can't see how this would be able to work.

akela · Jul 17th, 2012, 9:26:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Soarin

No This has been attempted numerous times. And i just don't think a League would work on PS.

There is truly no way to emphasize this properly.

The definition of insanity is attempting the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. All of those numerous attempts have failed. Pattern recognition suggests this attempt will fail as well.

View Poll Results: Would you participate in a PS League??
Yes, I would battle!	9	19.15%
Yes, I would be leader!	5	10.64%
No.	16	34.04%
Screw you. F*** you and your League.	525,613	100.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

Jul 17th, 2012, 4:32:19 PM	#1
HardyHoundoom Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 13	Pokemon Showdown! Gym and Elite 4! MAJOR EDIT: If you would like for there to be a league on PokemonShowdown! Reply:Yes! If not, Reply : NO![/CENTER] Now, I know that everybody assumes that Gyms are dumb and lame, but I feel that this is a bit different. It is more focused on tiers. This system is a challenge because to win, you must be sufficient in almost every tier. It will be a DIFFICULT challenge. Let's remember what pokemon is about, FUN! So here is how the gyms will be a-going! CHALLENGING A LEADER. 1. Ask the leader for a battle. 2. THEY decide when the battle comences. 3. Be respectful. Must use same tier as leader. 4. If you lose, you lose, no challenge for 3 days. max 5 5.If you win, move on to the next leader and repeat the rules. 6. NO making biased team choices due to the monotype teams!! WAYS OF BECOMING A GYM LEADER. 1. Be nominated by Sinister Act. 2. Beat current Leaders/Elite Four. R. Have at least 1750 on the ladders. BEING A GYM LEADER. 1. Must accept all challenges from members. 2. Make sure they have beaten below members. 3. Must make a mono-type team for Gym use. 4. Fairly battle. No being biased Pokemon allowed. 5. After player wins, give them the authority to advance on. 6. Report the Victory or Lose to Sinister Act. e. When timing a battle, be reasonable. Now, I was thinking that the Gyms would be tier and Bi-Type based. Leaders can sign up in a reply to this thread. [CENTER]THE GYMS! GYM 1 - RU (%Closet) GYM 2 - NU (DinoDan) GYM 3 - UU (Sinister Act) GYM 4 - OU GYM 5 - WATER (Gym Leader Juan) GYM 6 - PSYCHIC (dontpoop) GYM 7 - STEEL GYM 8 - BUG (monotype=ou) Congrats Elected Leaders! THE BI-TYPE ELITE FOUR! Leader 1 - Fire/Dragon Leader 2 - Psychic/Fighting Leader 3 - Ghost / Steel (Shauntal) Leader 4 - Little Cup Open (Now, I added Little Cup, to ensure that you are ready. That you can do anything.) THE CHAMPION OF POKEMON SHOWDOWN! AQUAAA!! OU. NEEDED: OU, WATER,PSYCHIC, STEEL, and BUG Gym Leaders. Leaders 1,2 and 4 are needed as well. NOTES: Follow all smogon bans, tiers, hacks, and respect rules apply. Sec. 1 Art. 6 MUST have secret passwords to advance to the next leader. (Closet) EDIT: new leader types/tiers EDIT2: grammar EDIT3: ELITE 4 typing mixup __________________ Battle Strategist Know as HardyHoundoom on Marriland fourms too Last edited by HardyHoundoom; Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:12:44 PM.

Jul 17th, 2012, 4:56:55 PM	#2
Iminyourcloset If only Masquerain were Bug/Water and actually had good stats. Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 121 I'm @Closet on Pokemon Showdown! UU = best tier btw	Can I just say something? I do totally like this, but is there anyway we can have some weaker gyms, or something? It seems to me you have to be a pro at the start, and I think a gym league should be viable for really anyone. But, this sounds really awesome :D! I'd like to become a gym leader, but I suck in everything :P EDIT: I Love RU, but I suck in everything else* __________________ @Arcticblast: Hey Closet, guess who's above you? Last edited by Iminyourcloset; Jul 17th, 2012 at 5:56:39 PM.

Jul 17th, 2012, 5:27:20 PM	#4
HardyHoundoom Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 13	Thanks for your support and input. I have an idea that puts all of your together! We make you gym leader, and since you said you're not good, it's not as hard. And you said your self you want to be one! __________________ Battle Strategist Know as HardyHoundoom on Marriland fourms too

Jul 17th, 2012, 5:28:50 PM	#5
Shauntal Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 13 South Milwaukee, Wisconsin	I ALREADY MADE THIS TOPIC!!! WHY DONT YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE THREADS!!! DTC ALREADY SAID NO TO THIS IDEA ANYWAY! __________________ Me: No Chandelure, you can't eat blarajan's soul! Chandelure: Chanda Chandelure Me: CHANDELURE THAT IS A HORRIBLE THING TO SAY ABOUT SOMEONE

Jul 17th, 2012, 5:21:12 PM	#3
Rami512 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 14	But why 4 gyms? Do it with 8 gyms like in the anime/games... Apart from the number of gyms, I think it's a great idea.

Jul 17th, 2012, 5:32:37 PM	#7
Shauntal Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 13 South Milwaukee, Wisconsin	Oh, and if this is approved I WILL BE THE GHOST ONE! __________________ Me: No Chandelure, you can't eat blarajan's soul! Chandelure: Chanda Chandelure Me: CHANDELURE THAT IS A HORRIBLE THING TO SAY ABOUT SOMEONE

Jul 17th, 2012, 5:42:43 PM	#12
Shauntal Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 13 South Milwaukee, Wisconsin	lol ma'am that makes me feel old.... im only 17 lol __________________ Me: No Chandelure, you can't eat blarajan's soul! Chandelure: Chanda Chandelure Me: CHANDELURE THAT IS A HORRIBLE THING TO SAY ABOUT SOMEONE

Jul 17th, 2012, 5:48:07 PM	#13
Iminyourcloset If only Masquerain were Bug/Water and actually had good stats. Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 121 I'm @Closet on Pokemon Showdown! UU = best tier btw	Hm... I feel like we need to keep eight gyms. if we lower the qualifications a bit, by not just basing it on ranking, (due to the fact the ladder is messed up) and judge a person's qualifications by a combonation of rank, team, and just general skill. Also, can you change me to RU, please? and possibly, forget the type restrictions. You're already restricting by tier, so no need for the typings. And I'd also like to add, I suggest on PS!, we create passwords (don't say them on here,) so that people can pass on to the next gym/E4. I feel like this definitely a good start, and has some parts complete, but it's gonna have to be edited and made pretty damn perfect >:D EDIT: Me and HardyHoundoom (Sinister Act) have just come up with an awesome Idea: Four TIER gyms,a nd Four TYPING gyms!!! __________________ @Arcticblast: Hey Closet, guess who's above you?

Jul 17th, 2012, 6:04:12 PM	#14
dinosaurdan Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 200 Anywhere I Am Unwanted	Pretty cool, If I could stand using dark types in NU, I would apply...But its already taken.... EDIT: It's open! I'll apply then for NU __________________ "...and left into the vast world that had way too many Fire, Ice, Ghost, Steel, Dragon, Rock, Flying, Poison, and other Bug pokemon." Check out my super Bugrasslocke! Last edited by dinosaurdan; Jul 17th, 2012 at 6:17:00 PM.

Jul 17th, 2012, 6:16:38 PM	#15
Snowflakes 大賢人は私にとって唯一のツンデレです Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 296 Ontario, Canada	So instead of NUgget Bridge and Lost Caves for seperate tier this is one big thing? sounds good of course NUgget Bridge and Lost Caves etc will run but this is for the battlers who try to literally be the best there is be the Pokemon Master :p sounds good. __________________ !Aaeru: I THOUGHT YOU ANALS USED SOME SORT OF HACK ON MY PC @Snowflakes: anals? !Aaeru: PEOPLE WITH HOLES IN THEIR BUTTS <Snowflakes> FERAN <Snowflakes> FELL <imanalt> OFF <imanalt> A <imanalt> CLIFF

Jul 17th, 2012, 8:14:36 PM	#16
HardyHoundoom Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 13	Pokemon Showdown! Gym and Elite 4! Would you participate in a PS League? Yes/No Now, I know that everybody assumes that Gyms are dumb and lame, but I feel that this is a bit different. It is more focused on tiers. This system is a challenge because to win, you must be sufficient in almost every tier. It will be a DIFFICULT challenge. Let's remember what pokemon is about, FUN! So here is how the gyms will be a-going! CHALLENGING A LEADER. 1. Ask the leader for a battle. 2. THEY decide when the battle comences. 3. Be respectful. Must use same tier as leader. 4. If you lose, you lose, no challenge for 3 days. max 5 5.If you win, move on to the next leader and repeat the rules. 6. NO making biased team choices due to the monotype teams!! WAYS OF BECOMING A GYM LEADER. 1. Be nominated by Sinister Act. 2. Beat current Leaders/Elite Four. R. Have at least 1750 on the ladders. BEING A GYM LEADER. 1. Must accept all challenges from members. 2. Make sure they have beaten below members. 3. Must make a mono-type team for Gym use. 4. Fairly battle. No being biased Pokemon allowed. 5. After player wins, give them the authority to advance on. 6. Report the Victory or Lose to Sinister Act. e. When timing a battle, be reasonable. Now, I was thinking that the Gyms would be tier and Bi-Type based. Leaders can sign up in a reply to this thread. [CENTER]THE GYMS! GYM 1 - RU (%Closet) GYM 2 - NU (DinoDan) GYM 3 - UU (Sinister Act) GYM 4 - OU GYM 5 - WATER (Gym Leader Juan) GYM 6 - PSYCHIC (dontpoop) GYM 7 - STEEL GYM 8 - BUG (monotype=ou) Congrats Elected Leaders! THE BI-TYPE ELITE FOUR! Leader 1 - Fire/Dragon Leader 2 - Psychic/Fighting Leader 3 - Ghost / Steel (Shauntal) Leader 4 - Little Cup Open (Now, I added Little Cup, to ensure that you are ready. That you can do anything.) THE CHAMPION OF POKEMON SHOWDOWN! AQUAAA!! OU. NEEDED: OU, WATER,PSYCHIC, STEEL, and BUG Gym Leaders. Leaders 1,2 and 4 are needed as well. NOTES: Follow all smogon bans, tiers, hacks, and respect rules apply. Sec. 1 Art. 6 MUST have secret passwords to advance to the next leader. (Closet) EDIT: new leader types/tiers EDIT2: grammar EDIT3: ELITE 4 typing mixup __________________ Battle Strategist Know as HardyHoundoom on Marriland fourms too

Jul 17th, 2012, 8:17:42 PM	#17
danceparty Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 29 aka that one MythBuster	Yes, because although there are tournaments, they don't provide the same challenge as a league does. __________________ Too bad. Waluigi Time! SpecsX: crap its waluigi time

Jul 17th, 2012, 8:22:47 PM	#18
Iminyourcloset If only Masquerain were Bug/Water and actually had good stats. Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 121 I'm @Closet on Pokemon Showdown! UU = best tier btw	Yes, I do like leagues. I understand why some people don't appreciate them, but I do like the fun and adventure this league'll bring >:D __________________ @Arcticblast: Hey Closet, guess who's above you?

Jul 17th, 2012, 8:28:52 PM	#19
Snowflakes 大賢人は私にとって唯一のツンデレです Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 296 Ontario, Canada	I'm going to vote yes but mainly because of the first 4 Gyms. I never got into monotype or anything weird like that I just like majority of the tiers so something like this IF done right would be nice. __________________ !Aaeru: I THOUGHT YOU ANALS USED SOME SORT OF HACK ON MY PC @Snowflakes: anals? !Aaeru: PEOPLE WITH HOLES IN THEIR BUTTS <Snowflakes> FERAN <Snowflakes> FELL <imanalt> OFF <imanalt> A <imanalt> CLIFF

Jul 17th, 2012, 8:42:06 PM	#20
nyttyn Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 642 Caw!	I'm going to have to vote no. Our last two attempts at a league ended in horrible failure, and I'd honestly hate to see someone put so much effort for something only for it to horribly crumble in their face. __________________ http://i.imgur.com/M88s8ua.gif

Jul 17th, 2012, 8:47:55 PM	#21
Soarin Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 21 I'm not telling you where i live. You stalkers.	No This has been attempted numerous times. And i just don't think a League would work on PS. __________________ OS' Biggest Troll Leader of the Quack Attack Camreon Crazy Tiger Purple 2006 Mack 9 winner 2010 Mack 13 winner 7x Mack MVP Anti-MACtion

Jul 17th, 2012, 8:52:26 PM	#22
ShakeItUp Darkravenn12: Always and Forever Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,140 Mentor	Definitely no. just no. nooooo. no. I definitely do not think that this will be successful on Smogon.

Jul 17th, 2012, 8:58:12 PM	#23
minusoneball Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1 MEXICO CABRON!	iLike it! I like the idea and I can become a gym leader of anything you need :)

Jul 17th, 2012, 9:03:19 PM	#24
TropiOUs Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 432 North Korea	I like how the poll goes up to 154.17%. I voted no because I can't see how this would be able to work. __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang