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Jul 21st, 2012, 6:57:19 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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The Calmest Force
 The Calmest Force      My general fear before posting any set, team, or idea on Smogon is that it will be horrendously failurific, thus embarrassing me and tarnishing my record as a mediocre player for the rest of my life. Although that will probably happen, I am posting this team largely because I want to demonstrate how amazing Calm Mind Landorus is (back when BW first came out, an analysis suggesting this was locked). The general aim of this team, then, is to clear the field for a sweep by Landorus, while providing for alternative victory routes if Landorus faces untimely death.
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Jul 21st, 2012, 6:58:11 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 17
Michigan
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Jul 21st, 2012, 8:31:17 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Boltaway Hi this is a good team, watching the team from above it appears to be solid and put him and easily defeated by Tornadus-T is giving Hurricane a lifetime on your team besides it does not die easy thanks to its Ability Regenerator, so I suggest you change your Jirachi for a Sp.Defensive Jirachi, so you lose your scarf so I suggest you also change the set of for a Choice Scarf Magnezone, much like the Celebi but it does not change this set with the set it for a Celebi Offensivo more so you will make more pressure on the opponent allowing the further weakening of Landorus to win the game with your opponent's team already weak, here are the sets.
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Jul 21st, 2012, 9:08:58 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 154
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Hey there Boltaway, your team looks pretty nice, what I like about it in particular is the way that you have a planned strategy and how each pokemon contributes to it in some way. However, I did note that you are slightly weak to a CelebiTran core. Also, the water types that go with them (Slowbro and Jellicent) cause you grief.
The Problem: Basically, you have the problem that any CelebiTran core with any kind of support is going to end up walling you to a lot of places and back. Excluding any superhax Jirachi feats, Heatran sturdily walls everything that it has to offer, and will commence to do things (like burn) that this team doesn't appreciate. Magnezone is way to slow to nab any Heatran with Thunderbolt, and any damage you will do is unlikely to kill it, as seen by this:
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Additionally, Dragonite really can't touch Heatran, which is actually pretty surprising to me, and I'll address that later. Celebi, armed with Natural Cure, has nothing to fear from your gellatinous Jellicent. Finally, your Jirachi can only hope to nail a Heatran on a switchin or be using U-Turn to prevent Heatran from doing too much damage by beggining to Substitute, or worse, use something like Will-O-Wisp that will wear down Jellicent, whom I would assume would be your best counter for Heatran. That leaves only Landorus who can swat both of the little critters, however, more often than not, Celebi and Heatran are joined by a bulky water that can cause Landorus to either die after dealing ~80% or to switch out again. All in all, this is a bad combination. My Suggestions: The first thing that concerned me from the start was Dragonite's inability to hit Heatran. You have fire punch, which I understand is used to hit things like Ferrothorn and Scizor and Forretress. However, all three of those are trapped and killed by Magnezone. There really is no need for that, as you are just losing out on coverage. Earthquake, in my opinion, is much more effective on that set. With that addition, Heatran becomes setup opportunity for Dragonite, which further advances your goal, while checking a threat. The Celebi weakness is a bit harder to fix, because it knows a ton of effective moves, and any combination of them is difficult to counter effectively. There was a point in time when I was considering actually suggesting the removal of Jirachi for Scarfed Rotom-H, which could deal with a lot of threats in this Metagame, and he could trick, too. However, there is a much better pokemon for this job. Consider replacing Jirachi with Heatran.
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This does a whole lot for this team. First off, as prevously stated, this does counter all forms of Celebi not carrying Earth Power. Secondly, this, like Jirachi before it, can revenge kill a great adversary of yours, Mamoswine. It may seem odd to have Stealth Rock on this set, but Heatran doesn't lose out much on coverage by having it. Also, from past experience, I find that a lot of opponents who see a Heatran laying down rocks instantly remove Scarftran from they would think he is. He can surely find a way to come in on one of his 4x resistances and lay them down early game. Hidden Power Ice is quite useful to deal damage to opposing Dragonite and Salamence who have not Danced yet. Useful for double switches. Finally, assuming that you adopt that poor little Heatran at the shelter over there, one more change is going to really change this team. Now that Heatran has Stealth Rock, Celebi really won't need it. This allows him to get the Recovery he so richly deserves. Recover over Stealth Rock on Celebi will extend the lifespan of the core, and of the team. Closing Thoughts: I really do like this team because, as I said before, everyone has a job to do and does it quite well, making way for either of two sweeps. With the addition of Heatran, this team boasts an effective Fire Water Grass core, that has proven time and time again its effectiveness in this metagame. I hope that you implement my suggested changes and boast success with this team.
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