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San_Pellegrino · Jun 24th, 2012, 11:29:44 PM

ok thank you oglemi, i appreciate your answer and will dutifully follow up

(in other words, omg that's a lot of work)

Bald Accountant · Jun 30th, 2012, 12:15:45 PM

If this is not right place to ask, please let me know. Is there a database of the current movesets where we can download the basics - move, ability, EVs etc?

Jukain · Jul 5th, 2012, 9:31:38 AM

What is the usual requirement for a Ladybug?

***Oglemi**** · Jul 5th, 2012, 10:47:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat pokemon0078

What is the usual requirement for a Ladybug?

The earning and rewarding of the ladybug varies drastically based on the user's quality and dedication, as well as maturity. Typically, a ladybug is earned at about 8-10 analyses, again varying on quality and the user in question. For GP checks it's about 35-45 checks. The ladybug can also be earned through various other means not limited to C&C. It's also typically used as a "trial" badge to test a user's maturity and dedication in several other areas of the site, such as Team Rater and posting in the Smogon Metagames forum.

Omicron · Jul 5th, 2012, 10:57:05 PM

I just wanted to add on a little to what Oglemi said.

A ladybug can also be awarded for a combination of the things Oglemi mentioned. For example, a user could have 3-4 analyses, some good rating in the RMT forum, and helpfulness / contribution to discussion in the Smogon Metagames forum and be considered for the badge. Contribution and helpfulness does not go unnoticed, the moderators and admins are always looking for potential contributors. That being said, asking for the badge most certainly will not get you anywhere.

**sandshrewz** · Jul 6th, 2012, 6:41:12 AM

Just adding on >.> making significant contributions to the SOC thread helps too! afaik Hawsktar is the only one who has earned the ladybug this way as of now. Being helpful with C&C projects like the items etc project helps as well. AND one more thing they forgot to mention. QC checking quite a lot also qualifies! That's all I think.

Also,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Bald Accountant

If this is not right place to ask, please let me know. Is there a database of the current movesets where we can download the basics - move, ability, EVs etc?

This should be the right place to ask because what you're asking for is under the C&C forums. This (done by TheSpeedyShaymin and whitefag) is probably what you're searching for. BUT, I'm not sure if it's updated automatically according to the Smogon Dex though >.> you could probably ask whitefag if he has any plans of updating it, but BW analyses are going to be updated anyway lol. Hope this helps! :)

bluewooper · Jul 21st, 2012, 1:40:04 AM

If I am just looking for things to be able to do and contribute here, where can I start if I am willing to do work? Thanks.

Zowayix · Jul 22nd, 2012, 1:43:32 PM

There's a few small mistakes in the BW legendary capturing guide here:
http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/...bw_legendaries

Specifically, the Timer Ball and Quick Ball were buffed in BW:
- Timer Balls now start at 1x and increase by a flat rate of 0.3x per turn, so the second turn has 1.3x, the third has 1.6x, the fourth has 1.9x, etc. This maxes out at 4x after only 10 turns, not 30 like before.
- Quick Balls now have a catch rate of 5x on the first turn, instead of 4x.

That's all.

I wasn't sure where to post this, so I put it here to at least avoid making unnecessary threads. Could someone can direct me as to where I should post something like this in the future?

**DittoCrow** · Aug 11th, 2012, 5:57:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat bluewooper

If I am just looking for things to be able to do and contribute here, where can I start if I am willing to do work? Thanks.

There are multiple ways to contribute here, so you can choose whatever you like best. You can write analyses, grammar check analyses, html, work on the moves/abilities/items project or read this for more info. There's always stuff to do in C&C, so you have many cool options to choose from! Reading the announcements and sticky threads in each of the subforums are good ways to learn more about contributing as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Zowayix

There's a few small mistakes in the BW legendary capturing guide here:
http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/...bw_legendaries

Specifically, the Timer Ball and Quick Ball were buffed in BW:
- Timer Balls now start at 1x and increase by a flat rate of 0.3x per turn, so the second turn has 1.3x, the third has 1.6x, the fourth has 1.9x, etc. This maxes out at 4x after only 10 turns, not 30 like before.
- Quick Balls now have a catch rate of 5x on the first turn, instead of 4x.

That's all.

I wasn't sure where to post this, so I put it here to at least avoid making unnecessary threads. Could someone can direct me as to where I should post something like this in the future?

Something like this would go in the Small Objective Changes Thread. The Small Subjective Changes Thread is also for noting errors on the site.

***Oglemi**** · Aug 16th, 2012, 9:07:19 PM

I think you might want to start in the Wi-Fi SQSA thread, or the PRNG threads there in Wi-Fi. Read the FAQs before posting though

Cannonfodder · Aug 22nd, 2012, 7:29:10 AM

hope this is the right place......can imposter ditto be caught shiny in black and white 2? thanks....and also are there shiny restrictions like there are in black and white?

***Oglemi**** · Aug 22nd, 2012, 4:07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Oglemi

I think you might want to start in the Wi-Fi SQSA thread, be sure to read the FAQ's first though

we don't do anything with research here!

breh · Sep 5th, 2012, 11:40:01 PM

Why is the Smogon standard to use "such as" over "like"? It's an incredibly, incredibly unnatural phrase that, I feel, kills a bit of the sentence's flow. It's irritating when the phrase is injected everywhere in an analysis despite the fact that it does not feel like it should belong.

**DittoCrow** · Sep 6th, 2012, 2:46:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat breh

Why is the Smogon standard to use "such as" over "like"? It's an incredibly, incredibly unnatural phrase that, I feel, kills a bit of the sentence's flow. It's irritating when the phrase is injected everywhere in an analysis despite the fact that it does not feel like it should belong.

"Like" is used for comparisons or meaning that something is similar to another thing, such as "Jolteon's Speed stat is like Aerodactyl's Speed stat, very high." "Such as" is used for examples: "There are many other Pokemon with good Speed stats, such as Alakazam and Starmie." Because the second example wasn't a comparison, "such as" was used instead of "like." I understand that "like" can mean the same as "such as" sometimes, but this definition, despite being used frequently, is not the most common definition and Smogon considers it informal iirc. In most analyses, writers mean to list examples rather than compare Pokemon, so "such as" would be the appropriate phrase.

Nior · Sep 15th, 2012, 3:29:59 AM

Okay so is there anyway to get bp in black and white other than doing the battle subway?

melvni · Sep 26th, 2012, 9:44:11 PM

Does Smogon have a standard for how to refer to multiple moves of a Pokemon's STAB type on a Pokemon with only one type? For instance, if you had a Haxorus with Outrage and Dragon Claw, would Jirachi resist its STABs or its STAB or is either fine?

Edit: Thanks Oglemi*

***Oglemi**** · Sep 26th, 2012, 10:18:02 PM

I would just say "STAB moves" to be honest. It covers all the bases lol.

**mikel** · Oct 11th, 2012, 12:40:41 AM

What is the preferred capitalisation for Meloetta's formes? Are they Aria and Pirouette Formes (as given by Bulba, Veekun, and Ultimate Pokemon Center (poccil's site)) or Aria and Pirouette formes?

I don't have a copy of Black/White with which to test it, and this issue arose in shrang's analysis of Meloetta.

***Oglemi**** · Oct 11th, 2012, 1:14:53 AM

formes is typically lower-cased, idk why it would be capitalized as it is not a part of the Pokemon's name

dnzrx · Oct 11th, 2012, 2:56:18 PM

Is the Zoroark Frozen Bug fixed in the international versions of BW2 or not?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...ark_Frozen_Bug

KarateF22 · Oct 18th, 2012, 3:38:56 AM

So here is a question. There is a Vaporeon moveset that is mentioned in passing in the text of the Hydration Wall that I think warrants its own separate set. Basically, its a variant that allows one to wall physical hitters better. It would be Surf/Scald-Acid Armor-Toxic-Rest with an EV layout of Calm-8HP/252Def/248SDef which maxes out the unboostable special bulk. The idea is that you bring Vaporeon in on something safe, then acid armor as they bring in a physical hitter and proceed from there. Does this warrant starting a thread for this theoretical Vaporeon moveset or no?

Ferxious · Oct 18th, 2012, 8:30:12 AM

I have this question... I have downloaded a Pokémon Dream Radar from eShop... and I have Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2... the question is... will I be able to send the Therian formes and the other Pokemon from 4th generation (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Ho-oh and Lugia) to just one game!? Or is it possible to send them twice!? One per game of course... thanks in advance. n.n'

alkinesthetase · Oct 22nd, 2012, 1:37:34 PM

^ the above belongs in the wifi section, not in C&C

anyway http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3458054 did we ever get anywhere with this discussion of the forretress EV spread? did anyone ever figure out what those 80 special defense EVs are for? (they're still listed on the main physically defensive forry analysis) cause if not ima head over to the subjective changes thread and suggest they be removed

Scarfwynaut · Oct 22nd, 2012, 1:48:05 PM

Those evs are a hangover from last gen, if I am not mistaken I believe they allow it to take thunderbolts from Rotom-A better.

They are still a bit relevant, having some special defense makes it easier to take volt-switches from our more offensive Rotom-W in this metagame (I believe its avoids a 2HKO from it after rocks), although I do think that they need a tune up for this generation. Also having less defense evs make it harder for Forretress to take hits from Landorus in the sand and Landorus-T, so maybe that should be considered.

donkeykong · Oct 31st, 2012, 2:20:21 PM

how do you get chansey or blissey with wish?
breeding? move tutor?

Jun 24th, 2012, 11:29:44 PM	#26
San_Pellegrino the eternal dreamer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,603	ok thank you oglemi, i appreciate your answer and will dutifully follow up (in other words, omg that's a lot of work) __________________

Jun 30th, 2012, 12:15:45 PM	#27
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Jul 5th, 2012, 9:31:38 AM	#28
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Jul 5th, 2012, 10:57:05 PM	#30
Omicron Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,040 Seattle, WA	I just wanted to add on a little to what Oglemi said. A ladybug can also be awarded for a combination of the things Oglemi mentioned. For example, a user could have 3-4 analyses, some good rating in the RMT forum, and helpfulness / contribution to discussion in the Smogon Metagames forum and be considered for the badge. Contribution and helpfulness does not go unnoticed, the moderators and admins are always looking for potential contributors. That being said, asking for the badge most certainly will not get you anywhere. __________________

Jul 21st, 2012, 1:40:04 AM	#32
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Jul 22nd, 2012, 1:43:32 PM	#33
Zowayix Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 335 USA	There's a few small mistakes in the BW legendary capturing guide here: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/...bw_legendaries Specifically, the Timer Ball and Quick Ball were buffed in BW: - Timer Balls now start at 1x and increase by a flat rate of 0.3x per turn, so the second turn has 1.3x, the third has 1.6x, the fourth has 1.9x, etc. This maxes out at 4x after only 10 turns, not 30 like before. - Quick Balls now have a catch rate of 5x on the first turn, instead of 4x. That's all. I wasn't sure where to post this, so I put it here to at least avoid making unnecessary threads. Could someone can direct me as to where I should post something like this in the future? __________________ Writing a haiku With seventeen syllables Is really diffi--

Aug 16th, 2012, 9:07:19 PM	#35
*Oglemi they call me... THE OGLEBOMB Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,571 ~(^.^)~	I think you might want to start in the Wi-Fi SQSA thread, or the PRNG threads there in Wi-Fi. Read the FAQs before posting though __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum

Aug 22nd, 2012, 7:29:10 AM	#36
Cannonfodder Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 125 Indianapolis, Indiana	hope this is the right place......can imposter ditto be caught shiny in black and white 2? thanks....and also are there shiny restrictions like there are in black and white?

Sep 5th, 2012, 11:40:01 PM	#38
breh Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,958	Why is the Smogon standard to use "such as" over "like"? It's an incredibly, incredibly unnatural phrase that, I feel, kills a bit of the sentence's flow. It's irritating when the phrase is injected everywhere in an analysis despite the fact that it does not feel like it should belong. __________________ VGC Regionals: VGC11 Top 16, VGC12 12th Place

Sep 15th, 2012, 3:29:59 AM	#40
Nior Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2	battle points Okay so is there anyway to get bp in black and white other than doing the battle subway?

Sep 26th, 2012, 9:44:11 PM	#41
melvni Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 869	Does Smogon have a standard for how to refer to multiple moves of a Pokemon's STAB type on a Pokemon with only one type? For instance, if you had a Haxorus with Outrage and Dragon Claw, would Jirachi resist its STABs or its STAB or is either fine? Edit: Thanks Oglemi* __________________ Dreams of Absolution (Horribly Outdated NU RMT) Last edited by melvni; Sep 26th, 2012 at 10:24:06 PM.

Sep 26th, 2012, 10:18:02 PM	#42
*Oglemi they call me... THE OGLEBOMB Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,571 ~(^.^)~	I would just say "STAB moves" to be honest. It covers all the bases lol. __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum

Oct 11th, 2012, 12:40:41 AM	#43
mikel hear me roar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 662 ~gocn~ Mentor	What is the preferred capitalisation for Meloetta's formes? Are they Aria and Pirouette Formes (as given by Bulba, Veekun, and Ultimate Pokemon Center (poccil's site)) or Aria and Pirouette formes? I don't have a copy of Black/White with which to test it, and this issue arose in shrang's analysis of Meloetta. __________________ pokemon showdown \| contributions and corrections \| little cup \| pm/vm for a gp check [2013-02-13T17:59:26.637Z] (lobby) Blue Kirby was banned by Joim. (Smog Nominee Award Joim invites you to kindly take a time off of his website, banned user: BlueKirby) [3:33:40 PM] <~bmelts> inasmuch as this is the crux of the aforementioned set

Oct 11th, 2012, 1:14:53 AM	#44
*Oglemi they call me... THE OGLEBOMB Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,571 ~(^.^)~	formes is typically lower-cased, idk why it would be capitalized as it is not a part of the Pokemon's name __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum

Oct 11th, 2012, 2:56:18 PM	#45
dnzrx Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5	Is the Zoroark Frozen Bug fixed in the international versions of BW2 or not? http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...ark_Frozen_Bug

Oct 18th, 2012, 3:38:56 AM	#46
KarateF22 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 101	So here is a question. There is a Vaporeon moveset that is mentioned in passing in the text of the Hydration Wall that I think warrants its own separate set. Basically, its a variant that allows one to wall physical hitters better. It would be Surf/Scald-Acid Armor-Toxic-Rest with an EV layout of Calm-8HP/252Def/248SDef which maxes out the unboostable special bulk. The idea is that you bring Vaporeon in on something safe, then acid armor as they bring in a physical hitter and proceed from there. Does this warrant starting a thread for this theoretical Vaporeon moveset or no?

Oct 18th, 2012, 8:30:12 AM	#47
Ferxious Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 25 Lyon, France	I have this question... I have downloaded a Pokémon Dream Radar from eShop... and I have Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2... the question is... will I be able to send the Therian formes and the other Pokemon from 4th generation (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Ho-oh and Lugia) to just one game!? Or is it possible to send them twice!? One per game of course... thanks in advance. n.n'

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alkinesthetase <~aldarOFF> ill be imagining your face in my toilet alkines Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 711 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	^ the above belongs in the wifi section, not in C&C anyway http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3458054 did we ever get anywhere with this discussion of the forretress EV spread? did anyone ever figure out what those 80 special defense EVs are for? (they're still listed on the main physically defensive forry analysis) cause if not ima head over to the subjective changes thread and suggest they be removed __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Oct 22nd, 2012, 1:48:05 PM	#49
Scarfwynaut Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,206 PA	Those evs are a hangover from last gen, if I am not mistaken I believe they allow it to take thunderbolts from Rotom-A better. They are still a bit relevant, having some special defense makes it easier to take volt-switches from our more offensive Rotom-W in this metagame (I believe its avoids a 2HKO from it after rocks), although I do think that they need a tune up for this generation. Also having less defense evs make it harder for Forretress to take hits from Landorus in the sand and Landorus-T, so maybe that should be considered. __________________ VM me for a RMT rate if your team is defensive. I am not Scarf Wynaut on Pokemon Showdown.

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donkeykong Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1	how do you get chansey or blissey with wish? breeding? move tutor?