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ThaDon · Jul 28th, 2012, 5:52:21 PM

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^ none of these headings are displaying anything for my battle finder, help!

Sensei_Bobbilytus · Jul 28th, 2012, 7:29:30 PM

I was looking into Golurk as a decent sweeper, and noticed none of it's sets included the 4 new Punch moves it gets to play with via BW2 tutors.
In particular, it gets Ice Punch as an option to handle Gliscor who previously walled it, as well as Thunder Punch for bulky waters that threaten it. It also Drain Punch as something to consider on a Rock Polish set as a superior option to Hammer Arm and Dynamic Punch.

Yeah, it's still probably not that great, but they all seem like definite options that should at least be considered, that just aren't there (I assume there's just not much interest in him ATM)

***Birkal**** · Jul 28th, 2012, 7:52:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sensei_Bobbilytus

I was looking into Golurk as a decent sweeper, and noticed none of it's sets included the 4 new Punch moves it gets to play with via BW2 tutors.
In particular, it gets Ice Punch as an option to handle Gliscor who previously walled it, as well as Thunder Punch for bulky waters that threaten it. It also Drain Punch as something to consider on a Rock Polish set as a superior option to Hammer Arm and Dynamic Punch.

Yeah, it's still probably not that great, but they all seem like definite options that should at least be considered, that just aren't there (I assume there's just not much interest in him ATM)

The Golurk analysis is currently being updated here. A lot of what you've mentioned is already being added. You should check it out! If you have any additional thoughts, feel free to post them there.

HolyAvatar · Jul 29th, 2012, 12:35:39 AM

Is there a tool like honko's coverage calc that is up to date (includes bw2)?

SuperChillarmy · Jul 29th, 2012, 1:24:59 AM

is there a damage calculator that calcs gyro ball?

Zacchaeus · Jul 29th, 2012, 1:40:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat SuperChillarmy

is there a damage calculator that calcs gyro ball?

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Originally Posted by Fat HolyAvatar

Is there a tool like honko's coverage calc that is up to date (includes bw2)?

http://masara.byethost15.com/Silverl...cTestPage.html is an all-purpose 5th Gen damage calculator updated for BW2

HolyAvatar · Jul 29th, 2012, 5:13:09 AM

Thank you it was extremely useful.

Badgerzftw · Jul 29th, 2012, 12:07:49 PM

Is B/W2 wifi down for anyone else?

Avatar Korra · Jul 29th, 2012, 1:58:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Badgerzftw

Is B/W2 wifi down for anyone else?

No, at least not for me about 10 minutes ago.

hotcoldyay · Jul 29th, 2012, 4:59:08 PM

Is shadow tag gothitelle going to hit the lights of OU and UU?

And another thing: which hitmontop set uses its potential to the fullest? I was looking at it and while it seems primarily defensive, it has great offense combined with technician too. Im not necesarrily going to use it on my team, but just asking out of curiousity.

Electrolyte · Jul 29th, 2012, 5:19:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat hotcoldyay

Is shadow tag gothitelle going to hit the lights of OU and UU?

And another thing: which hitmontop set uses its potential to the fullest? I was looking at it and while it seems primarily defensive, it has great offense combined with technician too. Im not necesarrily going to use it on my team, but just asking out of curiousity.

Erm, I'm not very sure about Gothitelle. It's no Chandelure, with sky high SpA and pretty good speed, and look at where it is now. Gothitelle just lacks the speed / defenses to become an OU pokemon. It's typing also sucks. It might be UU status, but I don't think it's cut for OU.

As for Hitmontop, I think the sets on site are the best, or else they wouldn't be up there, eh? I personally prefer the Spinner set, because it is not as defensive as many other spinners. It can hold on it's own as a mix of Stall / offense.

Xeno598 · Jul 29th, 2012, 5:44:57 PM

Can Skarmory learn both Drill Peck and Whirlwind in Generation 3, or only 4-5? Trying to figure out where I should RNG it for a future team.

melvni · Jul 29th, 2012, 5:53:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Xeno598

Can Skarmory learn both Drill Peck and Whirlwind in Generation 3, or only 4-5? Trying to figure out where I should RNG it for a future team.

Unless Bulbapedia is leaving out possible parents, Skarmory can't learn both Drill Peck and Whirlwind in Gen III. Drill Peck requires the father be from the Spearow or Doduo lines, which can't learn Whirlwind, and Whirlwind requires the father be from the Pidgey line, which can't learn Drill Peck. Drill Peck and Roar however is legal, and only less effective against Electrode and Mr. Mime.

Xeno598 · Jul 29th, 2012, 6:07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat melvni

Unless Bulbapedia is leaving out possible parents, Skarmory can't learn both Drill Peck and Whirlwind in Gen III. Drill Peck requires the father be from the Spearow or Doduo lines, which can't learn Whirlwind, and Whirlwind requires the father be from the Pidgey line, which can't learn Drill Peck. Drill Peck and Roar however is legal, and only less effective against Electrode and Mr. Mime.

Yeah that's what I thought. I may go with Roar then, since I like doing G3 breeds for the novelty. Thanks!

JacobJinglepocket · Jul 29th, 2012, 6:30:21 PM

Which Defensive Mons work well with Specially Defensive Meloetta? I've been using it with Politoed, Dusclops, Vaporeon, Gliscor, and Ferrothorn, but I was wondering if there were more viable Pokemon.

Astrid · Jul 29th, 2012, 8:33:07 PM

On Virizion's Calm Mind set, with Life Orb, can Sacred Sword effectively be used over Focus Blast for the accuracy improvement? Or does it miss out on too many OHKOs/2HKOs?

**voodoo pimp** · Jul 29th, 2012, 8:41:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Astrid

On Virizion's Calm Mind set, with Life Orb, can Sacred Sword effectively be used over Focus Blast for the accuracy improvement? Or does it miss out on too many OHKOs/2HKOs?

Sacred Sword is a physical move, it's not going to KO anything on that set.

Astrid · Jul 29th, 2012, 8:51:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Sacred Sword is a physical move, it's not going to KO anything on that set.

Oh wow I was thinking of Secret Sword with Keldeo v_v
Thanks.

***Birkal**** · Jul 29th, 2012, 9:39:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat ThaDon

Current Battle Requests

Currently Ongoing Battles

Last 10 Completed Battles

^ none of these headings are displaying anything for my battle finder, help!

Sorry, I missed this before. The battle finder is currently down. You can read about it here. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Sensei_Bobbilytus · Jul 29th, 2012, 11:17:26 PM

Now that Luxray gets Guts AND Superpower, what's a good EV spread for Adamant Guts WildCharge/Superpower/Facade/Crunch(?). I assume max attack, but I'm never sure if it's better to invest in HP or Speed(or a mix of both), because I don't really know what he'll outspeed at any given benchmark

2sly4u · Jul 29th, 2012, 11:33:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sensei_Bobbilytus

Now that Luxray gets Guts AND Superpower, what's a good EV spread for Adamant Guts WildCharge/Superpower/Facade/Crunch(?). I assume max attack, but I'm never sure if it's better to invest in HP or Speed(or a mix of both), because I don't really know what he'll outspeed at any given benchmark

For OU? I'd run max Speed to at least tie with Adamant Breloom. When you're losing health every turn from status, investing in Bulk isn't a fantastic idea anyways :p

Jamiroquai · Jul 30th, 2012, 2:52:00 PM

I'm pretty confused (still) about DW tier. What's the difference between DW & OU tiers ?

I understand that certain pokemon can't have DW abilities with egg moves (due to the whole Female passing) but just confused at to the difference between the two.

And also, are they working on the new Therian forms & BW2 updates for the Website pages, just no mention of Breloom's new DW tech ability yet.

Huge thanks in advance !

Zacchaeus · Jul 30th, 2012, 2:57:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jamiroquai

I'm pretty confused (still) about DW tier. What's the difference between DW & OU tiers ?

DW OU allows every Dream World ability, standard OU only allows Dream World abilities that have been released and can be obtained in-game. Many Pokémon have not yet been released with their Dream World abilities such as Contrary Serperior. DW also allows for unreleased Pokémon, namely Genesect

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And also, are they working on the new Therian forms & BW2 updates for the Website pages, just no mention of Breloom's new DW tech ability yet.

Those are being worked on now

2sly4u · Jul 30th, 2012, 2:58:10 PM

The Dream World tier makes everything yet to be be released available for use. The big difference is that you can use unreleased DW abilities like Shadow Tag Chandelure and Lightningrod Zapdos. Genesect is also allowed in DW.

Jamiroquai · Jul 30th, 2012, 3:15:38 PM

Okay, thankyou to the both of you. I was 4th gen exclusively until a month or two ago, so the whole advent of BW2 caught me before my ground was settled with BW.

Cheers

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Sensei_Bobbilytus Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 222	I was looking into Golurk as a decent sweeper, and noticed none of it's sets included the 4 new Punch moves it gets to play with via BW2 tutors. In particular, it gets Ice Punch as an option to handle Gliscor who previously walled it, as well as Thunder Punch for bulky waters that threaten it. It also Drain Punch as something to consider on a Rock Polish set as a superior option to Hammer Arm and Dynamic Punch. Yeah, it's still probably not that great, but they all seem like definite options that should at least be considered, that just aren't there (I assume there's just not much interest in him ATM) __________________ "Restriction breeds Creativity" Shiny Lileep; Born Feb. 9, 2011 Shiny Duskull; Born March 23, 2012 Shiny Shroomish; Born June 29, 2012 WHITE friend code: 4341 7661 9515

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Jul 29th, 2012, 6:30:21 PM	#1440
JacobJinglepocket Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 44	Which Defensive Mons work well with Specially Defensive Meloetta? I've been using it with Politoed, Dusclops, Vaporeon, Gliscor, and Ferrothorn, but I was wondering if there were more viable Pokemon. Last edited by JacobJinglepocket; Jul 29th, 2012 at 8:51:45 PM.

Jul 29th, 2012, 11:17:26 PM	#1445
Sensei_Bobbilytus Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 222	Now that Luxray gets Guts AND Superpower, what's a good EV spread for Adamant Guts WildCharge/Superpower/Facade/Crunch(?). I assume max attack, but I'm never sure if it's better to invest in HP or Speed(or a mix of both), because I don't really know what he'll outspeed at any given benchmark __________________ "Restriction breeds Creativity" Shiny Lileep; Born Feb. 9, 2011 Shiny Duskull; Born March 23, 2012 Shiny Shroomish; Born June 29, 2012 WHITE friend code: 4341 7661 9515

Jul 28th, 2012, 5:52:21 PM	#1426
ThaDon Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1 Canada	Current Battle Requests Currently Ongoing Battles Last 10 Completed Battles ^ none of these headings are displaying anything for my battle finder, help!

Jul 29th, 2012, 12:35:39 AM	#1429
HolyAvatar Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 66	Is there a tool like honko's coverage calc that is up to date (includes bw2)?

Jul 29th, 2012, 1:24:59 AM	#1430
SuperChillarmy Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 99	is there a damage calculator that calcs gyro ball?

Jul 29th, 2012, 5:13:09 AM	#1432
HolyAvatar Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 66	Thank you it was extremely useful.

Jul 29th, 2012, 4:59:08 PM	#1435
hotcoldyay Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 174	Is shadow tag gothitelle going to hit the lights of OU and UU? And another thing: which hitmontop set uses its potential to the fullest? I was looking at it and while it seems primarily defensive, it has great offense combined with technician too. Im not necesarrily going to use it on my team, but just asking out of curiousity.

Jul 29th, 2012, 5:44:57 PM	#1437
Xeno598 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 91	Can Skarmory learn both Drill Peck and Whirlwind in Generation 3, or only 4-5? Trying to figure out where I should RNG it for a future team.

Jul 29th, 2012, 8:33:07 PM	#1441
Astrid Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 39 United States	On Virizion's Calm Mind set, with Life Orb, can Sacred Sword effectively be used over Focus Blast for the accuracy improvement? Or does it miss out on too many OHKOs/2HKOs?

Jul 30th, 2012, 2:52:00 PM	#1447
Jamiroquai Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 47	I'm pretty confused (still) about DW tier. What's the difference between DW & OU tiers ? I understand that certain pokemon can't have DW abilities with egg moves (due to the whole Female passing) but just confused at to the difference between the two. And also, are they working on the new Therian forms & BW2 updates for the Website pages, just no mention of Breloom's new DW tech ability yet. Huge thanks in advance !

Jul 30th, 2012, 2:58:10 PM	#1449
2sly4u Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 535 I'm comfy and easy to wear.	The Dream World tier makes everything yet to be be released available for use. The big difference is that you can use unreleased DW abilities like Shadow Tag Chandelure and Lightningrod Zapdos. Genesect is also allowed in DW.

Jul 30th, 2012, 3:15:38 PM	#1450
Jamiroquai Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 47	Okay, thankyou to the both of you. I was 4th gen exclusively until a month or two ago, so the whole advent of BW2 caught me before my ground was settled with BW. Cheers