Tiers page update

Malkyrian · Aug 3rd, 2012, 4:16:40 AM

Hi, I'm here to suggest that the on-site tier list be updated to include the following tiers:

- BL3
- LC Uber (or equivalent)

Adding these tiers would be a way for players to quickly see which mons are banned from NU and LC respectively, and would serve to clear up confusion, especially for BL3 (demonstrating clearly that Jynx, and any mon(s) banned as a result of the current NU suspect test, are not in RU for usage reasons).

***Oglemi**** · Aug 3rd, 2012, 11:00:58 AM

The BL3 issue is a known one and is being worked on along with the update for BW2.

IDK if the LC Uber tier is needed, I guess people with LC experience can way in here. I don't think it's necessary, especially considering Pokemon like Scyther are firmly RU and wouldn't be listed as LC Uber anyway.

**capefeather** · Aug 3rd, 2012, 1:40:57 PM

LC really shouldn't even be a "tier". It's a metagame whose banlist is completely separate from the usage tiers. I think that listing LC as a tier has resulted in some confusion, especially since not all LC-legal Pokémon are listed in the LC "tier" list (e.g. Munchlax). I'm not sure of what's being planned for listing LC Pokémon, but if LC has to continue to be listed as a tier in the same way that UU, RU, etc. are, maybe the Pokémon need to be listed in terms of whether they have an analysis for a metagame, rather than what tier they're in.

***Jellicent**** · Aug 3rd, 2012, 2:47:23 PM

You can see that by clicking on the Metagames tab, cape. That said, yeah, LC (just like DW and VGC) are not technically tiers, rather metagames (each tier has a metagame, which is where that confusion comes from). Technically, everything listed as LC or NFE should probably either be combined into NFE, pushed into NU (technically the tier they're in), or placed in a section called Not Viable or something. Granted, that would be a lot of work, and I think only Doug or mingot could do it (both of which probably have more important things to do), so I wouldn't hold out for it.

Aug 3rd, 2012, 4:16:40 AM	#1
Malkyrian Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 278	Tiers page update Hi, I'm here to suggest that the on-site tier list be updated to include the following tiers: - BL3 - LC Uber (or equivalent) Adding these tiers would be a way for players to quickly see which mons are banned from NU and LC respectively, and would serve to clear up confusion, especially for BL3 (demonstrating clearly that Jynx, and any mon(s) banned as a result of the current NU suspect test, are not in RU for usage reasons). __________________ I play Touhou. Here are some of my best timeouts. A Fantasy's Transience \| Virtue of Wind God \| Nirvana's Cloudy Way in Purple \| Charming Siege from All Sides \| Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana

Aug 3rd, 2012, 11:00:58 AM	#2
*Oglemi I crashed my car into the bridge, I don't care Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,532 ~(^.^)~	The BL3 issue is a known one and is being worked on along with the update for BW2. IDK if the LC Uber tier is needed, I guess people with LC experience can way in here. I don't think it's necessary, especially considering Pokemon like Scyther are firmly RU and wouldn't be listed as LC Uber anyway. __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum

Aug 3rd, 2012, 1:40:57 PM	#3
capefeather hey, even pirates need attorneys Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,613 especially internet pirates	LC really shouldn't even be a "tier". It's a metagame whose banlist is completely separate from the usage tiers. I think that listing LC as a tier has resulted in some confusion, especially since not all LC-legal Pokémon are listed in the LC "tier" list (e.g. Munchlax). I'm not sure of what's being planned for listing LC Pokémon, but if LC has to continue to be listed as a tier in the same way that UU, RU, etc. are, maybe the Pokémon need to be listed in terms of whether they have an analysis for a metagame, rather than what tier they're in. __________________ If we cannot take joy in things that are merely real, our lives will always be empty. <+joshe> im a registered sex offender for up to calc 3 <+Reflect_Suicune> i was thining of fucking jellicent for some reason <DetroitLolcat> I AM AROUSED BY BIMETALLIC CURRENCY!

Aug 3rd, 2012, 2:47:23 PM	#4
*Jellicent is 60% water Super Moderator** Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,658 (80 PROOF) Mentor	You can see that by clicking on the Metagames tab, cape. That said, yeah, LC (just like DW and VGC) are not technically tiers, rather metagames (each tier has a metagame, which is where that confusion comes from). Technically, everything listed as LC or NFE should probably either be combined into NFE, pushed into NU (technically the tier they're in), or placed in a section called Not Viable or something. Granted, that would be a lot of work, and I think only Doug or mingot could do it (both of which probably have more important things to do), so I wouldn't hold out for it. __________________ ^.^