Pokéstar/Pokéwood Studios Discussion

GRs Cousin · Aug 4th, 2012, 5:28:18 PM

Anyone remember Pokemon Contests? Those things where you force your poor Pokemon to ridicule themselves on stage in silly outfits as they dance? What about Pokemon Musicals? Anyone seriously enjoyed that? No? Good.

The upcoming Movies coming up in B2W2 seem like a really interesting change of pace, especially due to how it's reminiscent of the Battle Sims from Pokemon XD in that they're puzzling scenarios rather than straight up battles. In addition, the studio features new "Non-Mons". To list the new non-mons, we have:

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The fact that Gamefreak is making non-mons like these is real interesting to me. It really shows they're trying to make Pokewood stand out amongst the other side activities found in Generation IV and V. Who knows, maybe we can expect story-driven non-mons in future main series titles?

EDIT: I found this video on Youtube showcasing every Non-mon in battle as well as their cries.

ANinyMouse · Aug 5th, 2012, 9:08:49 PM

Yeah, honestly, I think I'm actually going to complete all the Pokestar movies. I don't think I've ever given a decent shot to any of the similar side quests since raising my Milotic in Sapphire.

Unlike the contests and musicals, I'd really like to see the movies come back in Gen 6.

goldursaring · Aug 5th, 2012, 9:58:12 PM

Contests, dancing, jumping and musical are things I could care less for. The only thing about beauty that I cared for was evolving Feebas, and fortunately they've spared us that pain and given us a new way to do so.

The movies seem cool, they've got some genuine opponents in the non-mons and a pretty nifty reward with the new sparkle animation.

Level 51 · Aug 6th, 2012, 5:26:12 AM

Ugh, the only reason I did the Contests/Musicals was for the trainer star, but I genuinely want to try this out. Seems not bad for once.
But really, Bubblebeam on U1? That totally makes sense.
The sparkle's pretty nifty as well I guess, gj gamefreak

keleyeemoh · Aug 6th, 2012, 1:58:17 PM

Two things:

1) What is this "double headbutt" in F-00's movepool?

2) Demon looks amazing. WonderTomb with base 100 stats? Why can't I use him?

TM13IceBeam · Aug 6th, 2012, 2:17:11 PM

http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/...steraser.shtml

For that battle it seems you need to sack your Cofagrigus on the first turn. Huh. Only other way would be to Soak + Charge Beam abuse.

GRs Cousin · Aug 6th, 2012, 4:47:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat keleyeemoh

Two things:

1) What is this "double headbutt" in F-00's movepool?

2) Demon looks amazing. WonderTomb with base 100 stats? Why can't I use him?

1) According to Serebii.net, the second scene fighting F-00 apparently has it include "Double Headbutt" in its moveset. I've done some research, and apparently that was a move in the Pokemon TCG. Doesn't explain why it's there though. It's either a complete mistranslation on Serebii's part, or a brand new move exclusive to F-00. Probably the former, I guess.

2) Because then it will be obligated to follow a Pokestar contract, of which burdens it with the Slow Start ability instead of Wonder Guard due to many competitive battles conflicting with its schedule.

**R_N** · Aug 6th, 2012, 5:26:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat GRs Cousin

1) According to Serebii.net, the second scene fighting F-00 apparently has it include "Double Headbutt" in its moveset. I've done some research, and apparently that was a move in the Pokemon TCG. Doesn't explain why it's there though. It's either a complete mistranslation on Serebii's part, or a brand new move exclusive to F-00. Probably the former, I guess.

It might be Head Smash (Double-edged Headbutt) since it'd be weird for this one single Robot to have a unique move

Zowayix · Aug 6th, 2012, 6:38:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat keleyeemoh

Demon looks amazing. WonderTomb with base 100 stats? Why can't I use him?

It shouldn't be too hard to hack the game to use him; literally the only problem is that it has no Pokedex data, so hacking it as a wild Pokemon and catching it crashes the game. Editing it directly into the party should work, although I have no idea how.

GRs Cousin · Aug 7th, 2012, 4:41:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat R_N

It might be Head Smash (Double-edged Headbutt) since it'd be weird for this one single Robot to have a unique move

You know, that might be it actually. It wouldn't be out of the question for F-00 to know Head Smash. I'll fix the OP to list that instead.

Anyone else puzzled over how this thing uses Needle Arm and Defense Curl?

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Originally Posted by Fat Zowayix

It shouldn't be too hard to hack the game to use him; literally the only problem is that it has no Pokedex data, so hacking it as a wild Pokemon and catching it crashes the game. Editing it directly into the party should work, although I have no idea how.

I think it's less about the Pokedex data and more about the fact that it has no back-sprite. I mean, unless I'm mistaken, the game will try to fill the back sprite with placeholder data, which can easily mean complete glitchmon graphics and... Yeah... That doesn't turn out well.

**R_N** · Aug 7th, 2012, 1:46:50 PM

Technically the game doesn't even give them actual movesets. All the videos I've seen of them in the wild have only had struggle.
I guess Pokewood, specifically, fills out their battle moves based on the movie.

Nokocchi · Aug 7th, 2012, 4:33:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Technically the game doesn't even give them actual movesets. All the videos I've seen of them in the wild have only had struggle.
I guess Pokewood, specifically, fills out their battle moves based on the movie.

Actually, they all know pound. I have an Action Replay AND an imported White 2, so I know first-hand.

The problem is not the backsprites being non-existent, as it doesn't cause the game to crash when you choose it out, but rather the game turns anything with a number higher than 649 into an Egg that hatches into another Egg with each step. Take a step forward, turns into an egg. Look at its stats, turns into an egg. Use it in battle, turns it into an egg afterwards. So far the only ways to put them in your party is to edit them as your starter or as a fossil, as neither pull up the Pokedex. Someone on a hacking forum I go to made a code to stop the egg from hatching with each step, but no one has bothered making codes for the checks that make it an Egg in the first place. There are most likely even more checks besides the three I mentioned, so this shows that GameFreak has done everything possible to prevent you from using these Non-mons

It should be noted that if you place them into a PC without looking at their stats(With a pull-up-a-PC-anywhere code, as taking a step will turn them into an Egg), they'll stay in their unstable forms as long as you don't withdraw them. They're incompatible with TMs and Move Tutors, so outside of a move editing code, they only have Pound.

Also, Anything with the Imposter Ability of having Transform in their current moveset isn't allowed to participate in Pokewood. So you can't transform into them. As such, it's impossible without cheating to get a Ditto with the special shine.

If you want to, you can add any of this to the original post

Zowayix · Aug 7th, 2012, 7:30:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Nokocchi

Actually, they all know pound. I have an Action Replay AND an imported White 2, so I know first-hand.

The problem is not the backsprites being non-existent, as it doesn't cause the game to crash when you choose it out, but rather the game turns anything with a number higher than 649 into an Egg that hatches into another Egg with each step. Take a step forward, turns into an egg. Look at its stats, turns into an egg. Use it in battle, turns it into an egg afterwards. So far the only ways to put them in your party is to edit them as your starter or as a fossil, as neither pull up the Pokedex. Someone on a hacking forum I go to made a code to stop the egg from hatching with each step, but no one has bothered making codes for the checks that make it an Egg in the first place. There are most likely even more checks besides the three I mentioned, so this shows that GameFreak has done everything possible to prevent you from using these Non-mons

It should be noted that if you place them into a PC without looking at their stats(With a pull-up-a-PC-anywhere code, as taking a step will turn them into an Egg), they'll stay in their unstable forms as long as you don't withdraw them. They're incompatible with TMs and Move Tutors, so outside of a move editing code, they only have Pound.

Also, Anything with the Imposter Ability of having Transform in their current moveset isn't allowed to participate in Pokewood. So you can't transform into them. As such, it's impossible without cheating to get a Ditto with the special shine.

If you want to, you can add any of this to the original post

I had no idea that there were checks in place if you had the non-mons in your party. I've seen videos of people battling with them, but it was never mentioned that they would turn into an Egg afterwards.

Also interesting that Transform and Imposter are banned from Pokestar Studios. I figured Game Freak would need to do that if they were to use these non-mons there. But you can technically get a "legit" Ditto with the shine through the Japanese D/P Mimic glitch, by teaching it moves other than Transform.

StallMandibuzz · Aug 8th, 2012, 7:52:42 PM

This Pokèwood thing looks pretty interesting, to be honest. Brycen and Sabrina make appearances as villains, and the non-Mons look tough. :3 Out of all of these side games, I liked Pokèmon Contests in Hoenn the best. But Pokèwood actually looks fun.

Aug 4th, 2012, 5:28:18 PM	#1
GRs Cousin Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 255	Pokéstar/Pokéwood Studios Discussion Anyone remember Pokemon Contests? Those things where you force your poor Pokemon to ridicule themselves on stage in silly outfits as they dance? What about Pokemon Musicals? Anyone seriously enjoyed that? No? Good. The upcoming Movies coming up in B2W2 seem like a really interesting change of pace, especially due to how it's reminiscent of the Battle Sims from Pokemon XD in that they're puzzling scenarios rather than straight up battles. In addition, the studio features new "Non-Mons". To list the new non-mons, we have: ... (All with entirely 100 base stat spreads) Brycenman Type: Dark/Psychic Ability: Levitate Movepool Ice Beam Night Shade Psychic U-turn UFO (Set U1) Type: Flying/Electric Ability: Levitate Movepool Bubblebeam Counter Recover Signal Beam UFO (Set U2) Type: Psychic/Electric Ability: Levitate Movepool Dark Pulse Flamethrower Hyper Beam Ice Beam Tyranitar Mech (Set M1) Type: Steel Ability: Analytic Movepool Earthquake Iron Head Spark Surf Tyranitar Mech (Set M2) Type: Steel/Electric Ability: Flash Fire Movepool Dragon Pulse Flamethrower Metal Burst Thunderbolt Time Machine Type: Steel Ability: Motor Drive Movepool Clear Smog Discharge Flame Burst Icicle Crash Overheat Signal Beam BlackBelt Type: Fighting Ability: Huge Power Movepool Focus Punch Hammer Arm Jump Kick Mach Punch Taunt Black Door Type: Grass Ability: Early Bird Movepool Amnesia Baton Pass Counter Flame Charge Ingrain Lucky Chant Rest Toxic White Door Type: Fire Ability: Blaze Movepool Baton Pass Inferno Mirror Coat Toxic Monica Type: Normal Ability: Huge Power Movepool Crush Grip Doubleslap Focus Punch Growl Rage Stomp Teeter Dance Doll Type: Normal Ability: Insomnia Movepool Acid Dark Pulse Double-Edge Ice Punch Night Slash Rock Slide Scratch Shadow Claw Slash Thunderpunch Monster Type: Dark Ability: Pressure Movepool Dark Pulse Psychic F-00 Type: Steel/Normal Ability: Volt Absorb Movepool Chatter Defense Curl Head Smash Flail Growl Hammer Arm Headbutt Iron Head Needle Arm Perish Song Rage Teeter Dance Rogue F-00 Type: Steel/Normal Ability: Reckless Movepool Flare Blitz Iron Head Psychic Wild Charge Demon Type: Dark/Ghost Ability: Wonder Guard Movepool Crunch Dual Chop Slack Off Swords Dance The fact that Gamefreak is making non-mons like these is real interesting to me. It really shows they're trying to make Pokewood stand out amongst the other side activities found in Generation IV and V. Who knows, maybe we can expect story-driven non-mons in future main series titles? EDIT: I found this video on Youtube showcasing every Non-mon in battle as well as their cries. Last edited by GRs Cousin; Aug 7th, 2012 at 4:44:37 AM.

Aug 6th, 2012, 5:26:12 AM	#4
Level 51 Now available in GMT+1! Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 778 Location: Singapore ^.^	Ugh, the only reason I did the Contests/Musicals was for the trainer star, but I genuinely want to try this out. Seems not bad for once. But really, Bubblebeam on U1? That totally makes sense. The sparkle's pretty nifty as well I guess, gj gamefreak __________________ Ice 9: an RU RMT !kiddmewtwo: your still a bitch and this whole server is ass without blue gastrodon [15:59] <&@chaos\|away> i hence forth make it official: im better than arcticblast [15:59] <&@chaos\|away> spread the word

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TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,248 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/...steraser.shtml For that battle it seems you need to sack your Cofagrigus on the first turn. Huh. Only other way would be to Soak + Charge Beam abuse. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Aug 8th, 2012, 7:52:42 PM	#14
StallMandibuzz Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 779 Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!~~~	This Pokèwood thing looks pretty interesting, to be honest. Brycen and Sabrina make appearances as villains, and the non-Mons look tough. :3 Out of all of these side games, I liked Pokèmon Contests in Hoenn the best. But Pokèwood actually looks fun. __________________ ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US~ O_O Medium-Hard HeartGold Scramble! Black Scramblocke!~ Insanely Hard Platinum Scramble!

Aug 5th, 2012, 9:58:12 PM	#3
goldursaring Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 43 NY	Contests, dancing, jumping and musical are things I could care less for. The only thing about beauty that I cared for was evolving Feebas, and fortunately they've spared us that pain and given us a new way to do so. The movies seem cool, they've got some genuine opponents in the non-mons and a pretty nifty reward with the new sparkle animation.

Aug 6th, 2012, 1:58:17 PM	#5
keleyeemoh Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 124	Two things: 1) What is this "double headbutt" in F-00's movepool? 2) Demon looks amazing. WonderTomb with base 100 stats? Why can't I use him?

Aug 7th, 2012, 1:46:50 PM	#11
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,426	Technically the game doesn't even give them actual movesets. All the videos I've seen of them in the wild have only had struggle. I guess Pokewood, specifically, fills out their battle moves based on the movie.