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Join Date: Oct 2008
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...thinking it's Zoroark? I mean, since Pressure activates when it's sent out, they'll probably think "Hmm, Pressure didn't activate. It's got to be Zoroark." So I'd send out my Giratina against, let's say a Mewtwo w/ low HP. They'll think it's Zoroark & use Aura Sphere, which does nothing, and I defeat Mewtwo with Shadow Ball or something. What do you guys think?
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Theorymon proposed this idea before, and it's quite an interesting gimmick. The problem is Zoroark is still burdened by being somewhat weak and still identifiable by its previous damage, as well as Team Preview which causes more cautious play. So the tactic can only live for so long. Keep in mind that Giratina and Palkia often switch into attacks due to their bulk and resistances, and smart players will notice the difference in HP and deduce which one is Zoroark.
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Giratina greatly benefits from Pressure so I'd never run one without it.
As for Palkia, I suppose it could work since Pressure does little for it anyway, other than wasting Kyogre's Hydro Pump/Water Spout PP. The problem with this strategy is Zoroark itself, which is horribly outclassed by Darkrai in ubers. |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Very situational. Zoroark isn't even used in Ubers, as it's outclassed by Darkrai. Even if it does work, it's a one time thing.
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Oh I totally forgot about this idea. It probably won't work out too great for Dialga because the SR resist gives away what mon it is, but I'm interested in doing this for Palkia. I'm more interested in disguising Zoroark as Normal Arceus however, since Zoroark can nail Skarmory and Giratina switch ins, making it have the potential to be a decent lure.
Like previous posters have said though, the biggest problem with Zoroark is always going to be the fact that Darkrai is better in almost every single way. I'm still curious in testing it out though, because Illusion is just such a great ability...
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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I would think that team preview would kill this gimmick, but in a situation where that's not an issue, yeah it could work.
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Its a neat idea that could have merit. There are several problems with the concept though. Mainly entry hazards giving away which is which (like a Gira-O all of a sudden taking spikes damage or Dialga not resisting SR=Zoro). This can be remedied with a Spinner but its no guarantee. The other problem is that most Zoroark are specially based and so are some of its would be partners. A Chansey can stop both Palkia and Zoroark fairly easy so you don't get much of an advantage. You can use specific sets to help take advantage (like maybe physical Palkia?) but it is something to consider. Your probably better off going with Theorymon's suggestion of disguising Zoro as an Arceus as you can then Night Daze/Dark Pulse an incoming Lugia/Giratina and making it easier to setup the ESpeed sweep later. |
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Interesting gimmick. The thing is, with this strategy, you have to use Zoroark, which is kind of a burden for such a small surprise tactic. You might as well, as many people suggested, use Darkrai.
Also just pointing out that Giratina is commonly used as a spinblocker, so if you come in and take damage then your cover's up.
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