Pokemon Showdown (original announcement) - Page 10

Pwnemon · Jul 5th, 2012, 11:02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Fizz

I apologize if this has been discussed elsewhere, but I'm curious: What will be Showdown's final approach to Sleep Clause?

I ask because with the imminent release of Meloetta our implementation of Sleep Clause only makes it more likely that situations will arise in which game mechanics are not faithfully adhered to. I only ask because I know that Smogon's general philosophy on this is to mirror game mechanics as closely as possible.

Sleep clause on Showdown AS OF NOW works exactly like PO's did. I remember a while ago Zarel made a thread on suggestions for implementing sleep clause that would work with cartridge mechanics and i think the general consensus was along the lines of "fuck it this works fine" (?) I don't expect sleep clause to be changed from PO's for Meloetta but it may be

Dietrich · Jul 5th, 2012, 4:31:02 PM

Pokemon Showdown looks so good and it´s fun to play with those animations, I like to see the animation when the attack fails or hit another pokemon with Protect. There´s only one thing I miss from PO and that´s to way you place the effort points to your Pokemon.

I was wondering if it´s posible to run Pokemon Showdown on a LG Optimus me? or maybe another smartphones like Samsung Galaxy Ace plus or maybe Nokia Lumia 710/800? (If it´s true then I think it´s time to buy me one lol)

Isoka · Jul 5th, 2012, 6:04:44 PM

it's a verry amazing idea !!! i love !

No. 1 Machop Fan · Jul 5th, 2012, 9:52:38 PM

It has no Dream World tier, and it takes up more usage (not everyone is rich enough to afford unlimited Internet). BRING BACK POKÉMON ONLINE!

akela · Jul 5th, 2012, 9:57:28 PM

Might I suggest a How To command? One that explains how to import from PO, changing avatars, registering a name, et cetera. I know /help gives /avatar, but that still leaves members of the chat trying to explain importing from po amidst multiple other conversations and people not understanding who is replying to what.

AuraRayquaza · Jul 9th, 2012, 2:45:32 PM

i must say that i like the teambuilder better on PO than PS. This is because it is so much easier to use (in my eyes) than PS. but i really like the import from PO button which makes my life a lot easier. other than that it is great!

vandslaux · Jul 9th, 2012, 4:26:49 PM

I tried it, and this is amazing. However, if we desire to be as close to the games as possible, then we should disable the ability to scroll over the opponent's pokemon and see their items for 2 reasons.

A. This is not accurate to the games

B. It ruins bluff strategies

akela · Jul 9th, 2012, 6:25:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat vandslaux

I tried it, and this is amazing. However, if we desire to be as close to the games as possible, then we should disable the ability to scroll over the opponent's pokemon and see their items for 2 reasons.

A. This is not accurate to the games

B. It ruins bluff strategies

In the 4 months I have been on Showdown, the only way you can see your opponent's items is through trick or the item activating. Would you mind posting the screenshots of it?

***Zarel**** · Jul 9th, 2012, 8:55:24 PM

What akela said.

Pokemon Showdown will only show you your opponent's item if the item is specifically mentioned (such as "Magnezone is floating on a balloon!")

To make sure no information is leaked, the server will only send exactly the information that appears on an actual Pokemon game's screen to the cartridge. The client will then keep track of the game state itself "There was a Taunt message a few turns ago, but there hasn't been a Taunt wearing-off message yet, so this pokemon is Taunted". There's even a setting to make damage percentages calculated from the number of pixels lost on the HP bar, since you can't see your opponent's actual HP.

Cefiro · Jul 14th, 2012, 9:11:37 PM

I LOVE the random battle system! No more water guns when you can have surf or HP. Seriously, the random battles, omigawd so fun.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

DarkpoolFantasia · Jul 31st, 2012, 7:16:24 PM

aww, i'm sad. showdown is down right now :P

5thgenerator · Aug 7th, 2012, 8:15:22 PM

This system is so much more convenient than previous simulators. Thank you so much!

Aug 8th, 2012, 5:35:33 PM

How do you register for Pokemon showdown? I'm confused...

akela · Aug 8th, 2012, 7:34:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat RisingPokeStar

How do you register for Pokemon showdown? I'm confused...

You select a name. You get into a rated battle (which means, do not challenge/be challenged by anybody, to not select unrated battle). You win the rated battle when the ladder is working. You select a password. You are now registered.

zenaly · Aug 14th, 2012, 3:57:25 PM

does this infringe game freak copyright? id hate to see it taken down

**Arcticblast** · Aug 14th, 2012, 4:10:40 PM

If PS is infringing a copyright, then so was Shoddy Battle, and that never got taken down due to infringement so...

phoopes · Aug 14th, 2012, 4:31:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat zenaly

does this infringe game freak copyright? id hate to see it taken down

Yeah, stuff like PS, Smogon, and other stuff like Serebii and all that just promote the Pokemon brand, so if anything, GameFreak loves this stuff.

Weber · Aug 14th, 2012, 4:35:15 PM

I know I'm probably whining right now, and I know a lot of people are complaining about it already, but really, during the peak hours PS is close to being unplayable due to lag. It's just a thought, but have you considered placing a cap on the server for now? Something like 400 people max? This way at least some people will have a good experience rather than everyone having a bad one.

**verbatim** · Aug 14th, 2012, 5:10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Weber

I know I'm probably whining right now, and I know a lot of people are complaining about it already, but really, during the peak hours PS is close to being unplayable due to lag. It's just a thought, but have you considered placing a cap on the server for now? Something like 400 people max? This way at least some people will have a good experience rather than everyone having a bad one.

There are still a few things we can do (and are in the process of doing) to dramatically cut down on lag, so a drastic step like that is not necessary at this time. For the moment, we are turning off the lobby chat whenever lag gets extremely harsh.

coyotte508 · Dec 13th, 2012, 4:09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zarel

Here are what I already have over PO:

Accuracy: PS is designed from the ground up to have an event model and graphics system as close to the games as possible. Examples of things PS gets right that PO doesn't include: Zoroark's Illusion ability, gen 5 Custap Berry effect.

It's been a year, however since the behavior of PO and PS still are different on this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XKd8Rj4b4Y

Custap activates not at the end of the turn, but at the beginning of next turn (so PO's behavior has been correct all along). Custap gets released tomorrow with VGC events, it would be better to have it working correctly on PS when it's available in the OU tier!

HRforges · Jan 21st, 2013, 9:53:41 AM

I'm having trouble with the site on my iPad. It won't let me scroll down anywhere on the site.

HRforges · Feb 1st, 2013, 6:40:19 AM

I don't know if this is the right spot to post this but whatever.
I have noticed that I am not the only one that has problems with PS whilst using an iPad and vie been told by a friend that the chrome browser for iPad fixes the not being able to scroll problem but creates more lag (on an iPad it still lags on safari event when connected to high speed wireless Internet).
In general I would like for PS to become more compatible with the iPad/other mobile devices that don't run android since I heard android has less problems but I wouldn't know. Also I personally have a problem with PS on my iPad because iTunes won't let me update past 4.2 because it hates me so I can't get chrome so finding out whether a friend is on or not is tedious to say the least. 1 final thing. I think that you should in general optimize it more for the iPad and other such devices.

Jelandee · Feb 1st, 2013, 1:05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat HRforges

I don't know if this is the right spot to post this but whatever.
I have noticed that I am not the only one that has problems with PS whilst using an iPad and vie been told by a friend that the chrome browser for iPad fixes the not being able to scroll problem but creates more lag (on an iPad it still lags on safari event when connected to high speed wireless Internet).
In general I would like for PS to become more compatible with the iPad/other mobile devices that don't run android since I heard android has less problems but I wouldn't know. Also I personally have a problem with PS on my iPad because iTunes won't let me update past 4.2 because it hates me so I can't get chrome so finding out whether a friend is on or not is tedious to say the least. 1 final thing. I think that you should in general optimize it more for the iPad and other such devices.

Ehh well from my experience, PS! is just as laggy on Android. I tried running it on an Android tablet, and i've witnessed the same results. Though that's just due to my crappy internet I suppose, as i've heard from several users being quite successful with it. It's just that PS! isn't particularly designed to run well on mobile devices anyway. However, as Zarel has said before, he is making a "real" mobile app for it, which tend to be less laggy, in my case at least.

***Zarel**** · Feb 1st, 2013, 1:39:35 PM

As mentioned several times, PS really isn't optimized for mobile devices right now. It'll sort of work but be somewhat-to-really slow (depending on how good your mobile device is), this is known, and I'd generally recommend you use a laptop/desktop if that's a problem.

Mr cookies · Feb 5th, 2013, 10:26:54 AM

Just making my first post to thank you for this, Its a bit late and all but I dont really care. You've donde some unbeliveable work here dude, congrats.

Jul 5th, 2012, 4:31:02 PM	#227
Dietrich Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 125 Perú	Pokemon Showdown looks so good and it´s fun to play with those animations, I like to see the animation when the attack fails or hit another pokemon with Protect. There´s only one thing I miss from PO and that´s to way you place the effort points to your Pokemon. I was wondering if it´s posible to run Pokemon Showdown on a LG Optimus me? or maybe another smartphones like Samsung Galaxy Ace plus or maybe Nokia Lumia 710/800? (If it´s true then I think it´s time to buy me one lol) __________________ FC White: 1935 6414 8997 I allow legal hacks because I use legal hacks Standard Rules and also: -Ubers from 4th Gen not allowed except for Garchomp, Salamence. -No Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, and Genosect. -No Dreamworld Abilities not officially released

Jul 5th, 2012, 9:52:38 PM	#229
No. 1 Machop Fan Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 218 Victoria, Australia	It has no Dream World tier, and it takes up more usage (not everyone is rich enough to afford unlimited Internet). BRING BACK POKÉMON ONLINE! __________________ I peaked at rank 19 in Dream World OU on our PO server using nothing but gimmicks. js If you're a Bionicle fan and you want Bionicle to come back, join the Smogon branch of the Bring Back Bionicle Club. If you would like Australia to join the Pokémon World VGC in the future, sign my petition.

Jul 9th, 2012, 2:45:32 PM	#231
AuraRayquaza Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 313 London, England	i must say that i like the teambuilder better on PO than PS. This is because it is so much easier to use (in my eyes) than PS. but i really like the import from PO button which makes my life a lot easier. other than that it is great! __________________ My UU RMT My OU RMT My Youtube Channel

Jul 9th, 2012, 8:55:24 PM	#234
*Zarel >> BEGIN POSTBIT Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,130 >> END POSTBIT	What akela said. Pokemon Showdown will only show you your opponent's item if the item is specifically mentioned (such as "Magnezone is floating on a balloon!") To make sure no information is leaked, the server will only send exactly the information that appears on an actual Pokemon game's screen to the cartridge. The client will then keep track of the game state itself "There was a Taunt message a few turns ago, but there hasn't been a Taunt wearing-off message yet, so this pokemon is Taunted". There's even a setting to make damage percentages calculated from the number of pixels lost on the HP bar, since you can't see your opponent's actual HP. __________________ Pokemon Showdown \| Replay player \| No, I am not impressed that you know that my name is Guangcong Luo. The PS website says "Copyright Guangcong Luo" at the bottom, ffs.

Jul 14th, 2012, 9:11:37 PM	#235
Cefiro Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 140	I LOVE the random battle system! No more water guns when you can have surf or HP. Seriously, the random battles, omigawd so fun. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. __________________ Pokemon Diamond Friend Code: 1678 2454 2881

Jul 5th, 2012, 6:04:44 PM	#228
Isoka Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 22	it's a verry amazing idea !!! i love !

Jul 5th, 2012, 9:57:28 PM	#230
akela Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,181 Minnesota	Might I suggest a How To command? One that explains how to import from PO, changing avatars, registering a name, et cetera. I know /help gives /avatar, but that still leaves members of the chat trying to explain importing from po amidst multiple other conversations and people not understanding who is replying to what.

Jul 9th, 2012, 4:26:49 PM	#232
vandslaux Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 34	I tried it, and this is amazing. However, if we desire to be as close to the games as possible, then we should disable the ability to scroll over the opponent's pokemon and see their items for 2 reasons. A. This is not accurate to the games B. It ruins bluff strategies

Jul 31st, 2012, 7:16:24 PM	#236
DarkpoolFantasia Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1	aww, i'm sad. showdown is down right now :P

Aug 7th, 2012, 8:15:22 PM	#237
5thgenerator Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 17 Wisconsin, USA	This system is so much more convenient than previous simulators. Thank you so much!

Aug 8th, 2012, 5:35:33 PM	#238
RisingPokeStar Guest Posts: n/a	How do you register for Pokemon showdown? I'm confused...

Aug 14th, 2012, 3:57:25 PM	#240
zenaly Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 6 Wisconsin	does this infringe game freak copyright? id hate to see it taken down

Aug 14th, 2012, 4:10:40 PM	#241
Arcticblast is going goat Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,975 #serperiors Mentor	If PS is infringing a copyright, then so was Shoddy Battle, and that never got taken down due to infringement so... __________________ New to Smogon? Afraid to jump into discussion? Introduce yourself! ------------------- Fail Cup \| Scramble! \| RMTs: Blistering Sands (BH) Night Stall (OU) \| ARcTicblast \| Demon Spawn \| signature art by Zracknel additional credit to Pocket and AccidentalGreed

Aug 14th, 2012, 4:35:15 PM	#243
Weber Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3	I know I'm probably whining right now, and I know a lot of people are complaining about it already, but really, during the peak hours PS is close to being unplayable due to lag. It's just a thought, but have you considered placing a cap on the server for now? Something like 400 people max? This way at least some people will have a good experience rather than everyone having a bad one. __________________ *Procrastination is a terrible habit*

Jan 21st, 2013, 9:53:41 AM	#246
HRforges Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2	I'm having trouble with the site on my iPad. It won't let me scroll down anywhere on the site. __________________ Black 2 fc: 5201 1219 1508 Will battle or trade just pm me I live in Australia so my reply may take a bit sometimes. Swampert is the bomb

Feb 1st, 2013, 6:40:19 AM	#247
HRforges Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2	I don't know if this is the right spot to post this but whatever. I have noticed that I am not the only one that has problems with PS whilst using an iPad and vie been told by a friend that the chrome browser for iPad fixes the not being able to scroll problem but creates more lag (on an iPad it still lags on safari event when connected to high speed wireless Internet). In general I would like for PS to become more compatible with the iPad/other mobile devices that don't run android since I heard android has less problems but I wouldn't know. Also I personally have a problem with PS on my iPad because iTunes won't let me update past 4.2 because it hates me so I can't get chrome so finding out whether a friend is on or not is tedious to say the least. 1 final thing. I think that you should in general optimize it more for the iPad and other such devices. __________________ Black 2 fc: 5201 1219 1508 Will battle or trade just pm me I live in Australia so my reply may take a bit sometimes. Swampert is the bomb

Feb 1st, 2013, 1:39:35 PM	#249
*Zarel >> BEGIN POSTBIT Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,130 >> END POSTBIT	As mentioned several times, PS really isn't optimized for mobile devices right now. It'll sort of work but be somewhat-to-really slow (depending on how good your mobile device is), this is known, and I'd generally recommend you use a laptop/desktop if that's a problem. __________________ Pokemon Showdown \| Replay player \| No, I am not impressed that you know that my name is Guangcong Luo. The PS website says "Copyright Guangcong Luo" at the bottom, ffs.

Feb 5th, 2013, 10:26:54 AM	#250
Mr cookies Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3 Spain	Just making my first post to thank you for this, Its a bit late and all but I dont really care. You've donde some unbeliveable work here dude, congrats.