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Mantyke Edit: VGC 2013 Regional Rules are up!
This year's rule set is pretty much identical to the current GBU rule set. A few things to note is that this means the Therian formes are allowed, Chatot is banned, and note taking is allowed. The rule set isn't quite yet released to the public yet, but Chris Brown shared it today with Nugget Bridge ahead of time and important bits of it were uploaded on site. We'll edit in the full rule set when it goes up on Pokemon.com Quote:
October 14th rules
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Thank you so much. I've been anticipating this announcement for weeks. Although this ruleset is the same as last year's, do you think there will be major changes to the metagame? But one more question; will move tutor moves influence the metagame much?
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What move tutors? They won't be allowed for this tournament...
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There won't be any changes at all to the metagame. No BW2 tutor moves will affect this meta since it's going to most likely be played exclusively on BW1 carts. There won't be any changes from Worlds most likely aside from people trying out new teams based on what was seen there.
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To quote Ghirahim from LoZ: Skyward Sword:
"This just filled my heart with rainbows!"
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It's about time this was released. Thank you JRank. Sucks that October will be following that VGC '12 rules, mostly because I want to be lazy and not make a second team.
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"Moves: Pokémon may only use moves that have been learned through one of the following methods: By leveling up By TM or HM As an Egg move, through breeding From a character in the game Already learned by a Pokémon that was received at an official Pokémon event or promotion Pokémon cannot use the move Sky Drop during battle." So I assumed Move tutor moves in B/W2 would be allowed. Also, B/W2 carts, are allowed, though, right? I mean, I was planning to camp out and everything. |
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And here I was hoping for something new and interesting. I'm really starting to get bored of the 2012 rules to be honest.
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Yawn, honestly they need to incorporate new unique rules to keep the metagame fresh. People said VGC 11 was stale but 12 is nearly just as bad. Cresselia is on most teams as well as Gross, Chomp, and TTar.
The one nice thing is I doubt I'll end up making a completely brand new team, probably just nitpick a few things on my past ones.
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VGC 2012 is only as stale as you make it out to be - go ahead and try something new! Wolfe and I used freaking Exeggutor at Worlds! |
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Fly Pikachu is gonna dominate along side Explosion Landorus.
FLY BOOM, BABY!
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My problem Cybertron is I simply don't get it. I don't get how you guys try out random things and pull it off successfully. I've tried several 'unique' things and it crashes and burns. I'd love to try out that 202 tutoring but I feel like I've been playing for so long that I'd be wasting time whereas someone new could learn in my place.
It doesn't help that the past few months I've been kind of on a downhill slope, I feel I've gotten progressively worse/run out of successful things.
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Kinda thankful about this actually, means I can keep making adjustments to the team I am making. It also gives me time to breed for January.
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Not using BW2 game carts is one thing, not allowing BW2 moves in the October 14 Regional is BS, considering the game will have been out in the US for a full week prior, and Japan for several months. Makes me wonder how Japan is handling it.
One can only hope things get better in the winter and spring regionals. My wishlist for VGC2013 rules, in order of preference: 1. A return of the VGC2010-style rules, updated with Unova Pokemon 2. Triples 3. Full Pokedex Doubles |
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We still don't know if BW2 moves will be allowed. You have to keep in mind that PTOs don't completely understand the video game. There's a reason I didn't report on this when Mike originally posted last month. Tradebacks may or may not be allowed. It's just BW2 cards which we know won't be.
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That being said, I'd love for there to be a change in the Pokemon allowed, but if not this one isn't that bad.
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Ok so this is obviously bogus but it is the inevitable consequence of bw2's release timing. They had 2 choices:
-this -new metagame with bw2 which could be anything from Unova-only to no bans at all etc about a week after bw2 is released so this is the better option. It would help to clear up bw2 moves. Last edited by Roie; Aug 18th, 2012 at 5:54:18 AM. |
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In a way it's a relief that we're basically using same rules from April 2012 as it would otherwise be such a rush to get ready on the new carts non available until just a week before.
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if getting together a team is their main worry, why not release the new rules now so we have time to prepare?
edit oh wait because bw2 isn't out yet silly me
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After I thought about this can't we just buy the japanese BW2, and tutor gen V pokemon there, and past gen mons with new moves. Anyway if anyone wants BW2 move tutor moves, just supply me with the required shards, and consider it done.
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I'm pretty sure BW2 moves won't be allowed, since they can't expect the majority to have access to that within a week.
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