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Something along the lines of:
Thundurus @ Sitrus Berry EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SDef Nature: Calm -Thunderbolt -Thunder Wave -Taunt -Swagger |
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Also, I haven't seen a lot of Tornadus lately, but is he still fast and frail, or has he gone bulky too?
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Bulky Thundurus mainly focus on abusing Prankster with substitute, taunt, thunder wave, etc. That is why it doesn't run hidden power.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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Got a question regarding the legality of running a specific Pokemon in my Team. I have a Politoed in my VGC Doubles Format Team and I didn't know whether or not If I can run a Poliwrath in the same team as well even though they evolve from the same Pokemon. Is it legal to do that?
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As long as they don't have the same Pokédex number (e.g. you can't run two different Rotom formes), it's ok. Hell, you could do a full Eeveelution team if you wanted to.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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A hypothetical question that is not meant to be answered: Why does TPCi make 5 regionals on the same day? That just kills the purpose of going on a cross-country VGC tour. JK
Actual Question: Just wondering if you saw a Jellicent on your opponent's team. What is the likelyness of you attacking it just because you think there gonna pull a Water Spout? (I'm collecting a poll)
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Well, I think the likeliness would be kinda high, but a lot of people have to remember that water spout isn't a reliable tactic, so it isn't as used much as you think. It's like Draco Meteor, but instead of being back to full power after switching out, one turn is all it takes to make it useless for the rest of the battle. With that being said, I myself would not attack it, I would switch out my infernape for my Ferrothorn, but if I had the Hitmonchan I've been looking for, I may attack it with my Dragon gem boosted Draco Meteor.
EDIT: I meant Hitmontop EDIT 2: My Latios' attack will either KO a Jellicent or bring it down to about 16% HP in one hit, so water spout will become pretty useless after one hit. Water spout isn't too common a tactic, so you don't have to make special provisions for it. Make sure you hit them before they hit you. Last edited by Thadenvy; Aug 17th, 2012 at 3:19:26 PM. |
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Lots of Jellicent run Scald in VGC 2012. VGC 2012 has lots of Sucker Punchers and other pokemon that outspeed it even with a scarf. Water Spout is rare, but it does get some spotlight.
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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Are all the different seasonal regionals the same?
Basically - if the only regional I'll likely be able to make is the Spring regional of Athens, would I still be okay assuming I win there? |
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Odds are, yes. All three of the metagames at the regionals will be identical. However, don't stop changing your team. Every team has a weakness, and you have to change it after you start seeing results.
EDIT: I was wrong. We will have two different metagames. Last edited by Thadenvy; Aug 18th, 2012 at 3:15:10 PM. |
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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Okay, I can't RNG, say I have 26 and up in all the stats that matter. How much of a disadvantage would I be against someone who could RNG. I assume not much because it's only 5 points, but I figure I would ask to see what others would say.
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Assuming your speed is perfect, not much. You may have to rearrange your EVs a bit if you need to survive certain attacks, though.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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I normally use TR so speed isn't normally a problem. And defenses are normally 28+. Would I miss out on any important KO's with slightly less IV's?
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Depends on what exactly you're trying to do. In general, getting specific KOs isn't as important in doubles since there's a wider variety of common bulky Pokémon and you'll potentially have the partner doing damage as well, so aiming for a specific damage calc usually isn't worth it unless a specific Pokémon gives your team a lot of trouble.
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Well I won't know till I test my new team. Thanks for the feedback. One more question, would Whimsicott run well in TR, I figure it would since it runs nothing but setup and support moves.
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I live in Dallas. Do I have to attend all 3 Regional Tournaments to qualify for National?
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IIRC, if you place top 16, you are in. Who knows though, if you are good enough to place in the first one, going to the other two might be both good practice versus other competitive battlers, plus, a lot of fun, still.
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So if you go to 3 regionals and place 1st followed by placing 2nd at the other two - you will have a free trip +$600 spending money. |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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My question: If I use Shell Smash Cloyster, what's a good partner that counters Metagross, Scizor, and Zapdos?
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If you really want to use it, I suggest Chandelure, Zapdos, or Thundurus as good partners. It all depends on the rest of your team's layout, though.
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It's not the best but Rage Powder Volcarona can take down those mons and also distract their attacks while you set up a Shell Smash.
Also @ the person who asked about going to all the regionals - You don't have to, if nats is still open you won't even need regionals to qualify, you can just win money and byes with the Top 4 (which is pretty good incentive to go). You'll also meet new people and get to try out teams at a real tournament setting!
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He also asked for something that could counter/check metagross and hitmontop gets destroyed by metagross. Therefore, I don' think that works
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Hitmontop is also beaten by Zapdos and Thundurus so yeah, that doesn't really fit his problem.
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