Most Generation PRNG Help / Information - Page 1536

Buckert · Aug 20th, 2012, 8:22:29 AM

Yeah pretty much. Thanks a lot to you both! Too bad I have to start all over again, but well I can RNG abuse a shiny egg in like 5 minutes. :P

Fishaman P · Aug 20th, 2012, 9:53:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Were you using Synchronize? Because I have done dozens of wild captures in Emerald, and every single one was either H-2 or H-4.

I've never used that program, but if you want to abuse your SID you have to do it on emulator, and the scripts have always worked for me.

Synchronize or not, every single capture I got (100+) was an exact match for the Method 2 or Method 4 frame at that time. Adjusting my delay also produced the same delay into the frames I got. Finally, the Ditto I ended up with is DEFINITELY Method 2, and Metalkid and Enciclopedia Pokemon agree.

Im M3 · Aug 20th, 2012, 10:15:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Fishaman P

Synchronize or not, every single capture I got (100+) was an exact match for the Method 2 or Method 4 frame at that time. Adjusting my delay also produced the same delay into the frames I got. Finally, the Ditto I ended up with is DEFINITELY Method 2, and Metalkid and Enciclopedia Pokemon agree.

Methods 2 and H-2 are practically the same method, only that Method H-2 shows the actual frames and encounter slots. I think you are doing something wrong, because you should be getting H-2 captures. I have done several retail captures, and all of them are H-2.

Hozu · Aug 20th, 2012, 10:33:33 AM

H-2 takes encounter slots into account. If you're not using that you're doing it wrong. Certain Method 2 spreads are not possible for wild encounters for instance...

coolbiz · Aug 20th, 2012, 5:38:32 PM

Do you have to be millisecond accurate when trying to hit your timers?

Fishaman P · Aug 20th, 2012, 7:37:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Hozu

H-2 takes encounter slots into account. If you're not using that you're doing it wrong. Certain Method 2 spreads are not possible for wild encounters for instance...

Wasn't it you who said that Emerald encounter slot weren't figured out yet?

Besides, I KNOW they were Method 2. Not just what I was aiming for, but what I got.

@coolbiz: Approximately, if you mean Gen 3. Technically accurate to 0.0167 seconds, but close enough.

**voodoo pimp** · Aug 20th, 2012, 7:41:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Fishaman P

Wasn't it you who said that Emerald encounter slot weren't figured out yet?

Besides, I KNOW they were Method 2. Not just what I was aiming for, but what I got.

If he said that, it was a long time ago.

All Method H-2 spreads can be found in Method 2.

Fishaman P · Aug 20th, 2012, 8:02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

If he said that, it was a long time ago.

All Method H-2 spreads can be found in Method 2.

Alright. You win.

coolbiz · Aug 20th, 2012, 8:59:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Fishaman P

Wasn't it you who said that Emerald encounter slot weren't figured out yet?

Besides, I KNOW they were Method 2. Not just what I was aiming for, but what I got.

@coolbiz: Approximately, if you mean Gen 3. Technically accurate to 0.0167 seconds, but close enough.

Sorry I should've elaborated more, I was speaking of Pokemon heartgold.

Slashmolder · Aug 20th, 2012, 9:06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat coolbiz

Sorry I should've elaborated more, I was speaking of Pokemon heartgold.

Then it's accurate to the nearest 30th of a second.

Dagionax · Aug 21st, 2012, 5:31:17 AM

Im trying to hatch a modest flawless eevee but I cant seem to get it right. The everstone nature is modest and the male has 31iv in hp, def, sp att and speed. The female has 31iv in hp, sp def, sp att and speed. NONE of them are holding power items. I've read many guides but dont understand most of them so i really need a very detailed step by step instruction on how to breed flawless iv pokemon. Oh and I dont need it to be shiny, most guides teach how to make shiny pokemon instead.

My steps:
1. DS parameter then use results in time finder, seconds was 25 and actual seconds was 26 so time difference is 1. And timer0 is c7f
2. Go to eggs tab and fill in everything
3. It says its on frame 48 on 08/12/12 at 19:07:56

What do i do next?

Fishaman P · Aug 21st, 2012, 9:33:17 PM

Dagionax, what game are you using? That would a help a lot.

Princess of Johto · Aug 21st, 2012, 9:46:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dagionax

Im trying to hatch a modest flawless eevee but I cant seem to get it right. The everstone nature is modest and the male has 31iv in hp, def, sp att and speed. The female has 31iv in hp, sp def, sp att and speed. NONE of them are holding power items. I've read many guides but dont understand most of them so i really need a very detailed step by step instruction on how to breed flawless iv pokemon. Oh and I dont need it to be shiny, most guides teach how to make shiny pokemon instead.

My steps:
1. DS parameter then use results in time finder, seconds was 25 and actual seconds was 26 so time difference is 1. And timer0 is c7f
2. Go to eggs tab and fill in everything
3. It says its on frame 48 on 08/12/12 at 19:07:56

What do i do next?

You're talking about a 5th generation game, so this post belongs in the thread titled 5th Generation PRNG Help / Information. Please post this there :)

Edit: Nvm, just noticed you already posted there a while ago :/

White Eagle · Aug 21st, 2012, 10:25:40 PM

Is it possible to rng abuse Latios in the moment you hear from him from Steven? (Soul Silver)

Princess of Johto · Aug 21st, 2012, 10:29:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat White Eagle

Is it possible to rng abuse Latios in the moment you hear from him from Steven? (Soul Silver)

It's possible, but the NPCs make it really inconsistent. It's recommended to RNG Latios from the Champion's room.

FSLAR · Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:28:27 AM

Is there any sort of guide on Headbutt abuse? At least with Encounter Slots...

Hozu · Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:42:24 AM

Encounter slots vary from tree to tree apparently.

Cannonfodder · Aug 23rd, 2012, 12:40:01 PM

In BW there were no IV sets to match natures except with wondercards...is this the same with BW 2

Hozu · Aug 23rd, 2012, 12:41:19 PM

Yes.

Cannonfodder · Aug 23rd, 2012, 1:01:50 PM

whats the easiest way to identify what iv sets go with what nature with wondercards? thanks

Foxantes · Aug 23rd, 2012, 1:02:07 PM

Can WISHMKR and CHANNEL Jirachi be shiny? And what about AGETO Celebi?

Hozu · Aug 23rd, 2012, 1:04:45 PM

WISHMKR Jirachi yes, the other two no. The game explicitly skips shiny PIDs.

Dark Ray · Aug 23rd, 2012, 2:02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat FSLAR

Is there any sort of guide on Headbutt abuse? At least with Encounter Slots...

I've heard mixed things about whether there are set encounter slots or not, but I've had good luck using Psypokes for appearance percentages for specific areas and some basic low encounter slot for common stuff/high encounter slot fo rare stuff.

Princess Emily · Aug 23rd, 2012, 2:05:39 PM

Not to be demanding or forceful, but it could be better if this thread be renamed to "3rd & 4th Generation PRNG Help/Information" or something, because "Most Generation..." doesn't sound fitting, since Gen 5 RNG Help has its own thread.

Just a suggestion though...

**voodoo pimp** · Aug 23rd, 2012, 2:21:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Cannonfodder

whats the easiest way to identify what iv sets go with what nature with wondercards? thanks

All spreads are possible, just use RNG Reporter/PPRNG to search for them.

Aug 20th, 2012, 8:22:29 AM	#38376
Buckert Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,634 The Netherlands	Yeah pretty much. Thanks a lot to you both! Too bad I have to start all over again, but well I can RNG abuse a shiny egg in like 5 minutes. :P __________________ Buckert's RNG Pokédex Wild Eep: Buckert knows what's what.

Aug 20th, 2012, 10:33:33 AM	#38379
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,190 Orre	H-2 takes encounter slots into account. If you're not using that you're doing it wrong. Certain Method 2 spreads are not possible for wild encounters for instance... __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Aug 20th, 2012, 5:38:32 PM	#38380
coolbiz Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 643 portal eye'd	Do you have to be millisecond accurate when trying to hit your timers? __________________ My Pokecheck #smogonwifi is a awesome place (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡zıqןooɔ \|\|ʕ ●ᴥ●ʔ \|\| coolbiz ノ( º _ ºノ)

Aug 21st, 2012, 5:31:17 AM	#38386
Dagionax Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 20	need help Im trying to hatch a modest flawless eevee but I cant seem to get it right. The everstone nature is modest and the male has 31iv in hp, def, sp att and speed. The female has 31iv in hp, sp def, sp att and speed. NONE of them are holding power items. I've read many guides but dont understand most of them so i really need a very detailed step by step instruction on how to breed flawless iv pokemon. Oh and I dont need it to be shiny, most guides teach how to make shiny pokemon instead. My steps: 1. DS parameter then use results in time finder, seconds was 25 and actual seconds was 26 so time difference is 1. And timer0 is c7f 2. Go to eggs tab and fill in everything 3. It says its on frame 48 on 08/12/12 at 19:07:56 What do i do next?

Aug 21st, 2012, 9:33:17 PM	#38387
Fishaman P Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 81	Dagionax, what game are you using? That would a help a lot. __________________ TurboRNG, a new lightweight, cross-platform RNG abuse tool! http://i.imgur.com/1OwsO.png

Aug 21st, 2012, 10:25:40 PM	#38389
White Eagle Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 78 Costa Rica	Is it possible to rng abuse Latios in the moment you hear from him from Steven? (Soul Silver)

Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:28:27 AM	#38391
FSLAR Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 338	Is there any sort of guide on Headbutt abuse? At least with Encounter Slots... __________________ Winner of PokeMoshPit's 2nd KOTC Pokemon B/W Tournament YouTube Wi-Fi Battles (4th Gen) and Let's Plays Trade Thread HG FC: 3310 2042 3703 Black FC: 4040 6323 4797 If I DC in a Wi-Fi battle, it's probably my internet. It sucks like that.

Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:42:24 AM	#38392
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,190 Orre	Encounter slots vary from tree to tree apparently. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Aug 23rd, 2012, 12:40:01 PM	#38393
Cannonfodder Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 125 Indianapolis, Indiana	In BW there were no IV sets to match natures except with wondercards...is this the same with BW 2

Aug 23rd, 2012, 12:41:19 PM	#38394
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,190 Orre	Yes. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Aug 23rd, 2012, 1:01:50 PM	#38395
Cannonfodder Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 125 Indianapolis, Indiana	whats the easiest way to identify what iv sets go with what nature with wondercards? thanks

Aug 23rd, 2012, 1:02:07 PM	#38396
Foxantes Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 139	Can WISHMKR and CHANNEL Jirachi be shiny? And what about AGETO Celebi? __________________ Foxantes & Dxs' Trade

Aug 23rd, 2012, 1:04:45 PM	#38397
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,190 Orre	WISHMKR Jirachi yes, the other two no. The game explicitly skips shiny PIDs. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Aug 23rd, 2012, 2:05:39 PM	#38399
Princess Emily Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 418 Never put passion before principle, even if win, you lose.	Not to be demanding or forceful, but it could be better if this thread be renamed to "3rd & 4th Generation PRNG Help/Information" or something, because "Most Generation..." doesn't sound fitting, since Gen 5 RNG Help has its own thread. Just a suggestion though... __________________ Kaphotics: Butthurt alert: Possible aliases ~ diehozu, lolpwner, pepzi, pokesxy, pokesxz, carol199 (May 19, 11:44 am) Diehozu: LIKE DARKRAIS ABILITY MUAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA (May 19, 10:49 am) Diehozu: HELLO HOZU I AM YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE (May 19, 10:48 am)